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Dont just post "yes" and leave, I do acctually want your veiws and opinions on this one.
OK, my reasons for this post are related to something we all want but dont have enough of (no not sex) £££, yup money, and how our goverment distributes it. Before we start, I DO realise we have a very stable ecomony, but I still think a few changes could be made.
Lets look at our underpayed for starters. Firefighters, Paramedics. The two are public servers, they SAVE lives for gods sake! I mean these people put there ass's on the line to save others. They are expected to save the day, even though they are up against prank calls and false alarms every day. Does our goverment reward them for their work? Does if F**k! Money wise they can barely support bills, let alone provide for a family! Fire fighters are forced to get second jobs and paraedics/nurses all work ALOT of overtime, just to provide for themselves when they dedicate themselves to others! They do deserve more and they shouldnt have to strike to get it.
Now them, tax. 40%. 40% of all you earn (depending on what you earn i know it can be lower) fair dues, every country has tax, even if our countries is a little steeper than most. Then we loose a further 17.5% on EVERYTHING we buy/sell. Indeed every country has this, granted we are a little steep. Petrol, BLIMEY! No country pays half as much as us! Fair dues, but here's the clever part! If the goverment raise the cost of petrol by lets say 2p. not much I hear you say, well no it ist. But now, EVERYTHING that is sold anywhere increases in price, because the amount it costs to get it to where it is has gone up, so to cover the companies losses the price must go up. Very well, but now the 17.5% they get form EVERYTHING is vaued as more, meaning more prophits. Think about that.
Now then, whenever a conversation is made about money these guys come into it, footballers. These people make a living from kicking a ball about, fair enough its a form of entertainment, but what a living they make! They make more in a year than most make in a life time, do they save lives? Do they worry about providing for there families? No.
Now, I'm not a racist, but I have to say immigrants. We get people sneaking in and illegally living here, they have our worries to, buit people who apply to leave a country for political reasons, are brought over here, given a house and help with there morgage so they can make a living for themselfs...hold on, what about me? I've lived hear all my life, I'm doing your schooling and further education to get qualifications to get a job and get by and this guy just gets it all handed to him on a plate? Dont treat one how you would'nt treat another!
Finally, houses. House prices are ridiculous. When I get a full time job, I'm going to need to find the money to afford a morgage after I've forked out however much I have to every month just to get by.
Now, I'm only a 16 year old boy, a kid, but I know already that when I get older, things are going to get alot tougher and theres nothing I can do but try my hardest.
OK, my reasons for this post are related to something we all want but dont have enough of (no not sex) £££, yup money, and how our goverment distributes it. Before we start, I DO realise we have a very stable ecomony, but I still think a few changes could be made.
Lets look at our underpayed for starters. Firefighters, Paramedics. The two are public servers, they SAVE lives for gods sake! I mean these people put there ass's on the line to save others. They are expected to save the day, even though they are up against prank calls and false alarms every day. Does our goverment reward them for their work? Does if F**k! Money wise they can barely support bills, let alone provide for a family! Fire fighters are forced to get second jobs and paraedics/nurses all work ALOT of overtime, just to provide for themselves when they dedicate themselves to others! They do deserve more and they shouldnt have to strike to get it.
Now them, tax. 40%. 40% of all you earn (depending on what you earn i know it can be lower) fair dues, every country has tax, even if our countries is a little steeper than most. Then we loose a further 17.5% on EVERYTHING we buy/sell. Indeed every country has this, granted we are a little steep. Petrol, BLIMEY! No country pays half as much as us! Fair dues, but here's the clever part! If the goverment raise the cost of petrol by lets say 2p. not much I hear you say, well no it ist. But now, EVERYTHING that is sold anywhere increases in price, because the amount it costs to get it to where it is has gone up, so to cover the companies losses the price must go up. Very well, but now the 17.5% they get form EVERYTHING is vaued as more, meaning more prophits. Think about that.
Now then, whenever a conversation is made about money these guys come into it, footballers. These people make a living from kicking a ball about, fair enough its a form of entertainment, but what a living they make! They make more in a year than most make in a life time, do they save lives? Do they worry about providing for there families? No.
Now, I'm not a racist, but I have to say immigrants. We get people sneaking in and illegally living here, they have our worries to, buit people who apply to leave a country for political reasons, are brought over here, given a house and help with there morgage so they can make a living for themselfs...hold on, what about me? I've lived hear all my life, I'm doing your schooling and further education to get qualifications to get a job and get by and this guy just gets it all handed to him on a plate? Dont treat one how you would'nt treat another!
Finally, houses. House prices are ridiculous. When I get a full time job, I'm going to need to find the money to afford a morgage after I've forked out however much I have to every month just to get by.
Now, I'm only a 16 year old boy, a kid, but I know already that when I get older, things are going to get alot tougher and theres nothing I can do but try my hardest.
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Firebrand wrote:
> I should write all my opinions down for future reference like that...
Heh. I've been writing rants for a ezine for years now...makes life very easy whenever someone demands an opinion....
> I should write all my opinions down for future reference like that...
Heh. I've been writing rants for a ezine for years now...makes life very easy whenever someone demands an opinion....
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Lotsa stufff over the course of the afternoon
You know how you were hopping mad earlier because of someone who doesn't pay tax commenting on that very subject? I was just wondering how you reconcile that with you, someone who works in financial services, commenting on the merits or otherwise of a firefighter.
> Lotsa stufff over the course of the afternoon
You know how you were hopping mad earlier because of someone who doesn't pay tax commenting on that very subject? I was just wondering how you reconcile that with you, someone who works in financial services, commenting on the merits or otherwise of a firefighter.
I should write all my opinions down for future reference like that...
Kyz wrote:
> Light, it is much easier to criticse someones opinion that to write
> your own. I would like to see your take on the whole of this.
Heh. NOT a problem....
Opinions on immigrants and racism? Here y'go....
Is their much racial tension in where you live? I ask because it is something that I am clearly naive about. Allow me to explain further...
In Oldham, it has been today reported that vigilante gangs of Asian youths have declared certain areas of the city "No-Go" for white people. This is in response to an increase in racist attacks on Asians. So they are meeting racism with racism which, in my naiveté, seems like something of a stupid idea.
The whole issue of racism gives me something of a mixed feeling. Not as to whether it is a good or bad thing, for it is beyond the doubt of any reasonable person that is an extraordinarily awful thing. No, what gives me the problem is just how one should apply the criteria to decide just what is racist.
Let us decide on a definition of racism before we proceed further. Racism is the belief that, regardless of whatever evidence to the contrary may exist, people are going to behave in a certain way. I'm quite aware that this is not going to be satisfactory to everyone, but I believe it is broad enough to encompass the ranged arch of racist behaviour.
We are living in a time of "political correctness gone mad" if you believe one point of view, or "building towards a more tolerant and multicultural society" if you believe the other. It should be quite clear that neither of these viewpoints are the whole truth. Whilst the former has all sorts of unsavoury associations with unpleasant bigots ranting away and then justifying themselves by trying to make out that it is we who have the problem, today's news shows that the latter comment is equally as detached from reality; just look at the reaction of simpletons everywhere to the b******t that they're fed by the Sun and the Mail.
To me, this begs the following question; are both comments equally as racist? Neither are taking account of the way things actually are, both are ignoring facts that are plainly obvious. The more racist point of view fails to account for the fact that large numbers of people of differing colours and creeds can and do live together in harmony. By the same token, the idealistic point skirts around the reality that an equally large number of people do not.
Racism in both of these forms is equally as destructive. The former generates hatred between man, and the latter allows it to spread unchecked. There is no doubt in my mind that the actions of the youths in Oldham are racist, but what can one expect after the Stephen Lawrence case, or the Conservative party's difficulty in keeping it's foot out of it's mouth, or the murder in Wales of an Asian man at a hospital? It's time to stop looking for someone to blame and face up to our collective responsibility to sort the whole sh!tty mess out and get on with evolving as a race.
> Light, it is much easier to criticse someones opinion that to write
> your own. I would like to see your take on the whole of this.
Heh. NOT a problem....
Opinions on immigrants and racism? Here y'go....
Is their much racial tension in where you live? I ask because it is something that I am clearly naive about. Allow me to explain further...
In Oldham, it has been today reported that vigilante gangs of Asian youths have declared certain areas of the city "No-Go" for white people. This is in response to an increase in racist attacks on Asians. So they are meeting racism with racism which, in my naiveté, seems like something of a stupid idea.
The whole issue of racism gives me something of a mixed feeling. Not as to whether it is a good or bad thing, for it is beyond the doubt of any reasonable person that is an extraordinarily awful thing. No, what gives me the problem is just how one should apply the criteria to decide just what is racist.
Let us decide on a definition of racism before we proceed further. Racism is the belief that, regardless of whatever evidence to the contrary may exist, people are going to behave in a certain way. I'm quite aware that this is not going to be satisfactory to everyone, but I believe it is broad enough to encompass the ranged arch of racist behaviour.
We are living in a time of "political correctness gone mad" if you believe one point of view, or "building towards a more tolerant and multicultural society" if you believe the other. It should be quite clear that neither of these viewpoints are the whole truth. Whilst the former has all sorts of unsavoury associations with unpleasant bigots ranting away and then justifying themselves by trying to make out that it is we who have the problem, today's news shows that the latter comment is equally as detached from reality; just look at the reaction of simpletons everywhere to the b******t that they're fed by the Sun and the Mail.
To me, this begs the following question; are both comments equally as racist? Neither are taking account of the way things actually are, both are ignoring facts that are plainly obvious. The more racist point of view fails to account for the fact that large numbers of people of differing colours and creeds can and do live together in harmony. By the same token, the idealistic point skirts around the reality that an equally large number of people do not.
Racism in both of these forms is equally as destructive. The former generates hatred between man, and the latter allows it to spread unchecked. There is no doubt in my mind that the actions of the youths in Oldham are racist, but what can one expect after the Stephen Lawrence case, or the Conservative party's difficulty in keeping it's foot out of it's mouth, or the murder in Wales of an Asian man at a hospital? It's time to stop looking for someone to blame and face up to our collective responsibility to sort the whole sh!tty mess out and get on with evolving as a race.
Kyz wrote:
>
> No I do not beleive that at all. I welcome people who come to our
> country for aid if their own country is in crisis and I think as a
> wealthy nation we should give them ou help. What I do not take kindly
> to is border jumpers who come to our country when there is no major
> problem with their own country and it annoys me that they are given
> free housing and money when english citizens are often reduced to
> begging. Surely that cannot be perceived as being fair?
A few points:
No major problem with their own country? What; apart from poverty, starvation, and death?
And how do you KNOW they are all getting free housing and money? What do you suggest? Leave them to starve and freeze to death whilst it's decided whether to let them in and contribute to the economy?
OFTEN reduced to begging? Come on; the way you've worded that, it makes it sound like begging is one of the principle means of employment to people in the UK.
I think I know what you're driving at now, but you've worded everything rather imprecisely; I don't think you are a racist, and I think perhaps that the problem you're trying to describe (illegal asylum seekers who contribute nothing whatsoever to the national economy) is FAR smaller than you think; don't believe the papers just because they say all immigrants are the same.
>
> No I do not beleive that at all. I welcome people who come to our
> country for aid if their own country is in crisis and I think as a
> wealthy nation we should give them ou help. What I do not take kindly
> to is border jumpers who come to our country when there is no major
> problem with their own country and it annoys me that they are given
> free housing and money when english citizens are often reduced to
> begging. Surely that cannot be perceived as being fair?
A few points:
No major problem with their own country? What; apart from poverty, starvation, and death?
And how do you KNOW they are all getting free housing and money? What do you suggest? Leave them to starve and freeze to death whilst it's decided whether to let them in and contribute to the economy?
OFTEN reduced to begging? Come on; the way you've worded that, it makes it sound like begging is one of the principle means of employment to people in the UK.
I think I know what you're driving at now, but you've worded everything rather imprecisely; I don't think you are a racist, and I think perhaps that the problem you're trying to describe (illegal asylum seekers who contribute nothing whatsoever to the national economy) is FAR smaller than you think; don't believe the papers just because they say all immigrants are the same.
Goatboy wrote:
> Eh?
A joke, possible a bad one.
> Eh?
A joke, possible a bad one.
Ahh, all is relaxed.
Eh?
Stop talking with your mouth full.
Something about you having a dirty mother....
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