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Dont just post "yes" and leave, I do acctually want your veiws and opinions on this one.
OK, my reasons for this post are related to something we all want but dont have enough of (no not sex) £££, yup money, and how our goverment distributes it. Before we start, I DO realise we have a very stable ecomony, but I still think a few changes could be made.
Lets look at our underpayed for starters. Firefighters, Paramedics. The two are public servers, they SAVE lives for gods sake! I mean these people put there ass's on the line to save others. They are expected to save the day, even though they are up against prank calls and false alarms every day. Does our goverment reward them for their work? Does if F**k! Money wise they can barely support bills, let alone provide for a family! Fire fighters are forced to get second jobs and paraedics/nurses all work ALOT of overtime, just to provide for themselves when they dedicate themselves to others! They do deserve more and they shouldnt have to strike to get it.
Now them, tax. 40%. 40% of all you earn (depending on what you earn i know it can be lower) fair dues, every country has tax, even if our countries is a little steeper than most. Then we loose a further 17.5% on EVERYTHING we buy/sell. Indeed every country has this, granted we are a little steep. Petrol, BLIMEY! No country pays half as much as us! Fair dues, but here's the clever part! If the goverment raise the cost of petrol by lets say 2p. not much I hear you say, well no it ist. But now, EVERYTHING that is sold anywhere increases in price, because the amount it costs to get it to where it is has gone up, so to cover the companies losses the price must go up. Very well, but now the 17.5% they get form EVERYTHING is vaued as more, meaning more prophits. Think about that.
Now then, whenever a conversation is made about money these guys come into it, footballers. These people make a living from kicking a ball about, fair enough its a form of entertainment, but what a living they make! They make more in a year than most make in a life time, do they save lives? Do they worry about providing for there families? No.
Now, I'm not a racist, but I have to say immigrants. We get people sneaking in and illegally living here, they have our worries to, buit people who apply to leave a country for political reasons, are brought over here, given a house and help with there morgage so they can make a living for themselfs...hold on, what about me? I've lived hear all my life, I'm doing your schooling and further education to get qualifications to get a job and get by and this guy just gets it all handed to him on a plate? Dont treat one how you would'nt treat another!
Finally, houses. House prices are ridiculous. When I get a full time job, I'm going to need to find the money to afford a morgage after I've forked out however much I have to every month just to get by.
Now, I'm only a 16 year old boy, a kid, but I know already that when I get older, things are going to get alot tougher and theres nothing I can do but try my hardest.
OK, my reasons for this post are related to something we all want but dont have enough of (no not sex) £££, yup money, and how our goverment distributes it. Before we start, I DO realise we have a very stable ecomony, but I still think a few changes could be made.
Lets look at our underpayed for starters. Firefighters, Paramedics. The two are public servers, they SAVE lives for gods sake! I mean these people put there ass's on the line to save others. They are expected to save the day, even though they are up against prank calls and false alarms every day. Does our goverment reward them for their work? Does if F**k! Money wise they can barely support bills, let alone provide for a family! Fire fighters are forced to get second jobs and paraedics/nurses all work ALOT of overtime, just to provide for themselves when they dedicate themselves to others! They do deserve more and they shouldnt have to strike to get it.
Now them, tax. 40%. 40% of all you earn (depending on what you earn i know it can be lower) fair dues, every country has tax, even if our countries is a little steeper than most. Then we loose a further 17.5% on EVERYTHING we buy/sell. Indeed every country has this, granted we are a little steep. Petrol, BLIMEY! No country pays half as much as us! Fair dues, but here's the clever part! If the goverment raise the cost of petrol by lets say 2p. not much I hear you say, well no it ist. But now, EVERYTHING that is sold anywhere increases in price, because the amount it costs to get it to where it is has gone up, so to cover the companies losses the price must go up. Very well, but now the 17.5% they get form EVERYTHING is vaued as more, meaning more prophits. Think about that.
Now then, whenever a conversation is made about money these guys come into it, footballers. These people make a living from kicking a ball about, fair enough its a form of entertainment, but what a living they make! They make more in a year than most make in a life time, do they save lives? Do they worry about providing for there families? No.
Now, I'm not a racist, but I have to say immigrants. We get people sneaking in and illegally living here, they have our worries to, buit people who apply to leave a country for political reasons, are brought over here, given a house and help with there morgage so they can make a living for themselfs...hold on, what about me? I've lived hear all my life, I'm doing your schooling and further education to get qualifications to get a job and get by and this guy just gets it all handed to him on a plate? Dont treat one how you would'nt treat another!
Finally, houses. House prices are ridiculous. When I get a full time job, I'm going to need to find the money to afford a morgage after I've forked out however much I have to every month just to get by.
Now, I'm only a 16 year old boy, a kid, but I know already that when I get older, things are going to get alot tougher and theres nothing I can do but try my hardest.
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The man lacks vision.
Nudey Stormtroopers...why didn't Lucas think of that?
I don't keep it on that long...
Insane Bartender wrote:
> OK, you want a more lofty reasoning?
No, just an answer to the question I actually asked.
>
> I know what I'm talking about, while those juvenile simpletons don't
>
> "Waah! Less tax more money into public services"
> Genius, why didn;t I think of that?
Right...so why didn't you just say that in the first place? For someone so adamant that they're not posting here to bolster their ego, you go out of your way to try and make yourself look good at others expense
>
> And before I get the typical tut-tutting response - Yes, I get off on
> making small people feel smaller. No, I am not a nice person, nor am
> I as clever as I make out, but that's life and this is the internet.
Woo-hoo! A little honesty from you...coming up next; "Why IB gets annoyed at being questioned or doubted"
By the way, surely they are real silk? I mean, polyester just chafes after a few minutes.
> OK, you want a more lofty reasoning?
No, just an answer to the question I actually asked.
>
> I know what I'm talking about, while those juvenile simpletons don't
>
> "Waah! Less tax more money into public services"
> Genius, why didn;t I think of that?
Right...so why didn't you just say that in the first place? For someone so adamant that they're not posting here to bolster their ego, you go out of your way to try and make yourself look good at others expense
>
> And before I get the typical tut-tutting response - Yes, I get off on
> making small people feel smaller. No, I am not a nice person, nor am
> I as clever as I make out, but that's life and this is the internet.
Woo-hoo! A little honesty from you...coming up next; "Why IB gets annoyed at being questioned or doubted"
By the way, surely they are real silk? I mean, polyester just chafes after a few minutes.
I don't think it's real silk...
You forgot:
"And I wear a stormtrooper helmet and pose in a silk kimono"
"And I wear a stormtrooper helmet and pose in a silk kimono"
OK, you want a more lofty reasoning?
I know what I'm talking about, while those juvenile simpletons don't
"Waah! Less tax more money into public services"
Genius, why didn;t I think of that?
And before I get the typical tut-tutting response - Yes, I get off on making small people feel smaller. No, I am not a nice person, nor am I as clever as I make out, but that's life and this is the internet.
I know what I'm talking about, while those juvenile simpletons don't
"Waah! Less tax more money into public services"
Genius, why didn;t I think of that?
And before I get the typical tut-tutting response - Yes, I get off on making small people feel smaller. No, I am not a nice person, nor am I as clever as I make out, but that's life and this is the internet.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Simple really. I get paid what I deserve due to scarcity of resource
> to do the job I'm employed to do. Firefighters get paid what they get
> paid for similar reasons. The government (I assume) didn;t just stick
> a finger in the air and decide to put them on some random wage.
>
> If people were leaving the service and there was a shortage of people
> to replace them, then the wages would justifiably have to increase to
> encourage people to do the job, since that's not the case, why should
> they be paid any more?
Yeah? Cool...you're entitled to your opinion, and I don't wholly disagree with this one.
It's just that...well, using the same logic, Kyz and Mr Pink are entitled to their opinions. So I was a little confused as to how you felt justified in belittling their opinion on tax when they don't pay it.
You see, that was my original question; not "tell me what your opinion is concerning why firefighters shouldn't get paid more", but "why are you putting forward your opinion on something you're not involved with when you've just slagged someone off for putting forward their opinion of something they're not involved with?"
> Simple really. I get paid what I deserve due to scarcity of resource
> to do the job I'm employed to do. Firefighters get paid what they get
> paid for similar reasons. The government (I assume) didn;t just stick
> a finger in the air and decide to put them on some random wage.
>
> If people were leaving the service and there was a shortage of people
> to replace them, then the wages would justifiably have to increase to
> encourage people to do the job, since that's not the case, why should
> they be paid any more?
Yeah? Cool...you're entitled to your opinion, and I don't wholly disagree with this one.
It's just that...well, using the same logic, Kyz and Mr Pink are entitled to their opinions. So I was a little confused as to how you felt justified in belittling their opinion on tax when they don't pay it.
You see, that was my original question; not "tell me what your opinion is concerning why firefighters shouldn't get paid more", but "why are you putting forward your opinion on something you're not involved with when you've just slagged someone off for putting forward their opinion of something they're not involved with?"
poop!? Does our goverment POOP on us!? Either i'm going crazy or somebody up there has been changing things!? Do they poop on us...sheesh :D
Light wrote:
> You know how you were hopping mad earlier because of someone who
> doesn't pay tax commenting on that very subject? I was just wondering
> how you reconcile that with you, someone who works in financial
> services, commenting on the merits or otherwise of a firefighter.
Simple really. I get paid what I deserve due to scarcity of resource to do the job I'm employed to do. Firefighters get paid what they get paid for similar reasons. The government (I assume) didn;t just stick a finger in the air and decide to put them on some random wage.
If people were leaving the service and there was a shortage of people to replace them, then the wages would justifiably have to increase to encourage people to do the job, since that's not the case, why should they be paid any more?
> You know how you were hopping mad earlier because of someone who
> doesn't pay tax commenting on that very subject? I was just wondering
> how you reconcile that with you, someone who works in financial
> services, commenting on the merits or otherwise of a firefighter.
Simple really. I get paid what I deserve due to scarcity of resource to do the job I'm employed to do. Firefighters get paid what they get paid for similar reasons. The government (I assume) didn;t just stick a finger in the air and decide to put them on some random wage.
If people were leaving the service and there was a shortage of people to replace them, then the wages would justifiably have to increase to encourage people to do the job, since that's not the case, why should they be paid any more?
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