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Mon 21/07/03 at 18:55
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Same as the RAW thread. You all seem to think it's a good idea so I made a smackdown thread. Just discuss what happens on smackdown, week in, week out. Remember NO SPOILERS but if you really have to post one, make sure you give everyone a chance to watch the show.


P.S. Lets keep this different from Your Shout.
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Wed 10/09/03 at 18:46
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YAY! HHH finnaly gets some recondition (sp) I thing I messed that up :S
Wed 10/09/03 at 18:30
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The cruiserweight title match was rubbish angle v taker was better.
Wed 10/09/03 at 16:45
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"I like cheese"
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Hmmm...well I reckon Angle vs Undertaker should have been main event but hey, doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the Cruiser Title match.
Tue 09/09/03 at 22:29
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"Brooklyn boy"
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Tazz wrote:

> You and I obviously have different opinions of what a good match is.
> I prefer a chokeslam to a mere tap in the face with a boot. A
> chokeslam is something that provokes a believable reaction rather
> than what I would call "oversells" (see Nunzio's reaction
> to the 619 two weeks ago).

We obviously do have differing opinions on what a good match is. I do not like to see 2 big guys trading punches for 5 minutes with occasional slams and throws before going back to punching and kicking. Watching Rey fly around the ring for 5 minutes to me is far more interesting then seeing two guys slog it out. If i want to watch that i'll turn on the boxing, this is meant to be wrestling. Which is why i prefer the technical guys and also the high flyers rather then the brawlers

Let me ask you this, in a
> "legitimate" combat sport, say boxing, does a lightweight
> ever win the Heavyweight title?

Of course not seeing as a lightweight has never gone for the heavyweight belt (though i have hardly any knowledge on boxing so may be wrong)

In regards to your comments about great matches
> of our company's history, I hope that one day you will learn to
> appreciate the very men that built this company, upheld this company,
> and strengthened this company to its 2000-2001 stage which,
> unfortunately, has deteriorated since.

Sorry but A-train and Big Show aren't the first 2 names that spring to mind when thinking of people who carried the WWE at that time. Actually they don't spring to mind at all. The people to me who carried it were people like Austin, Rock, Foley, Taker and as much as it pains me to say it, HHH

You may not be familiar with
> the Bossman’s earlier days, but he had one of the greatest most
> charismatic personalities of all wrestling history, only which could
> be matched by Paul Bearer, Gangrel and the great Tazz.

I am familiar with him as it's around the time i started watching, around about 1990/1991 and he didn't strike me as someone with a charasmatic personality. Looked like some reject from the Village people

I am aware of
> Ultimo Dragon’s “legendary” (and I use that term loosely) history. I
> however, have never been interested in low-lifes, failures, misfits,
> nervous wrecks, the underdogs, the unsuccessful, the unwilling, the
> victimized, the pulverised, and/or miscellaneous.

All of which i wouldn't use to describe the Dragon at all.

I understand your point about if you look at it realistically a 500 pound giant would squash a 5'3 175 pound guy with ease, however this is meant to be the WWE the last letter of that standing for ENTERTAINMENT. Now what exactly is entertaining of two lumbering guys trading shots for 3/4's of a 5 minute match? Not alot (in my opinion), however if you look at the smaller guys like the cruiserweights they put on 4/5 star matches almost every week. The best part of WCW was seeing the cruiserweights for me as they were the most exciting guys and made me actually go *holy s**t* when they pulled off a incredible move. Big show hitting someone with his fist for the 50th time in a match doesn't have quite the same effect.
Tue 09/09/03 at 21:59
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"Too Orangy For Crow"
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Which is why in amateur wrestling, they are split into weight classes so that sort of thing doesn't happen.

This is pro wrestling. If they were going for realism, Big Show wouldn't have been jobbing to Jeff Hardy on Raw. They try to entertaining with their matches. Sure, everyone likes a bit of impact but it'll be boring and predictable if the big guy beat the little guy EVERY time because it's realistic.
Tue 09/09/03 at 21:50
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Yeah, realisticlly, say if it was, Mysterio against Big Show, Show would just kill him, I mean his hand his probably the size of his face.
Tue 09/09/03 at 21:39
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"Far Beyond Metal"
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Well... Yeah. But it does want to be based realistically in some ways. Afterall, the Cruiserweights do have their own title to go for. In my view, that should be looked at more highly. :)
Tue 09/09/03 at 21:36
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"Too Orangy For Crow"
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I'm looking at it from the Sports Entertainment point of view where everyone deserves a shot.
Tue 09/09/03 at 21:34
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"Far Beyond Metal"
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Nah. I can see what I think he's trying to say. I took it more along the lines of the typical view that the bigger guys would beat the smaller guys in a sport such as boxing. It does make sense and in most cases is true.

Although I do agree that the Cruiserweights are better to watch on TV. They have many more moves of which they can pull off in the ring. :)
Tue 09/09/03 at 21:28
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"Too Orangy For Crow"
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So, Tazz, are you saying that smaller faster guys with more moves than say Big Show and A-Train should never be allowed to go for the main titles because they have less impact and do less damage?

That, in my view, is very discriminating.
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