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I've made a RAW thread which is basically for discussing what happens on RAW. Every week just talk about what happened on RAW, I never actually see that much talk about each show so I've decided to make this thread. Whatever you do PLEASE don't put any spoilers in or if you really have to do it after Friday Night.

I think this seems like a good idea but if you guys don't like it just let it die, however, if this works out I'll make a smackdown thread soon enough.

Ant wrote:
> †hë_Çøñg_Mðñ wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> Nah he's had more than that, and he HAS been a good IC Champ, to be
> honest I don't think there's anyone around whose deserved to take
> the
> title off him.
>
> There's plenty, but they're buried... Val Venis, Lance Storm, The
> Hurricane, Edge, Kane, Rhyno...etc...
>
> Val Venis? Pfft come on, Orton is more talented and actually has a
> half-decent character.

Orton talented? Hmm, maybe if you like your wrestlers to confirm to the WWE norm of Truiple H copyist OVW clones. I swear they have a factory down there wth two different molds, based on Triple H (Cena, Orton etc...) and Kane (Batista, Tyson Tomko, Luther Reigns etc...) and the guys coming out have no idea that a world exists outside the WWE...Come on guys, watch tapes of Japan, England, Mexico, you can pick up stuff that won't bore me! Instead of the same carbon copy punch, punch, punch, oops blocked punch, punch power move 1, punch, punch, punch, oops blocked punch, punch power move 2, punch, punch, punch, oops blocked punch, punch power finish generic bullpoo which is killing the WWE.


> Lance Storm? I liked Lance, but he was never over enough to be on
> RAW, let alone be IC Champion. I don't even think that's the WWE's
> fault, because they did turn him face, but the fans just didn't get
> into him.

When all they really needed to do was let him cut the occasional heel promo and do his talking in the ring. At least if he sticks around in OVW the generic copyists might learn somethings about matt skills and psychology. Who am I kidding? WWE will carry on releasing those who grasp it whilst calling up those who haven't got it yet.
>
> Hurricane? Maybe, but I still don't think he could be considered as a
> serious contender for the IC Title. Should send him to SmackDown and
> make him Cruiser champ.

Considering how much hard work WWE hae done recently in making the cruiserweight title look worthless why would they put it on a decent wrestler?
>
> Edge? If I wanted to be bored to death then yes lets have Edge as IC
> Champion.

I already am bored to death by Randy Orton as the IC champ, so no change there.
>
> Kane? He's in a World Title match at Bad Blood...

That he shouldn't be as his character has been squashed for months.
>
> Rhyno? Yes, I like Rhyno, give him a push.

Vince doesn't. Apparently just like Doring/Roadkill/Mamaluke/Douglas etc...he's 'TOO ECW STYLE'. Which means he'sactually wreslted somewhere other than OVW.
>
> Another guy I'd be happy to see with the IC Title around his waist is
> Christian.

And anyway i don't keep repeating the same thing about him, i come up with lots of ways to insult him :-D

For instance find me anywhere else i have said *i hope Michaels bloody cripples him at Bad Blood* and i'll give you a cookie.

lalakersrule wrote:
> As opposed to your *oh he's the greatest, he doesn't suck, SHUT UP
> LAKER!!!* you reply with each time? :-p

Well if you always say the same thing about him shouldn't I reply with the same thing?

I never said he was the greatest.

Lipe wrote:
> lalakersrule wrote:
> I'm actually surprised Lipe picked up on that comment i made about
> Trish and not where i slagged off his beloved HHH though hehe
>
> Pfft, I saw it...but I've given up replying to your HHH
> comments...you always say the same thing about him :p


As opposed to your *oh he's the greatest, he doesn't suck, SHUT UP LAKER!!!* you reply with each time? :-p

lalakersrule wrote:
> I'm actually surprised Lipe picked up on that comment i made about
> Trish and not where i slagged off his beloved HHH though hehe

Pfft, I saw it...but I've given up replying to your HHH comments...you always say the same thing about him :p

> †hë_Çøñg_Mðñ wrote:
> There's plenty, but they're buried... Val Venis, Lance Storm, The
> Hurricane, Edge, Kane, Rhyno...etc...

Val Venis is actually pretty good but his stale character and jobbing he does nowadays hurts him bad. I seem to remember a Cage match against Rikishi and I thought it was half decent. He must have done something right. The talent is there.

I feel sorry for Lance Storm. We can only dream of what might have been.

The Hurricane looked like he was in line for a push when he pinned the Rock but the next week, he was Triple H's whipping boy and was for a while after that. I'm not really sure why they moved him out of the Cruiserweight division. It's not like they did anything with him on Raw.

Edge is good, probably needs a bit of life in his character but he could certainly be a future World Champion with a bit of improvement.

Kane has gone down in my estimation. He was good, then he started jobbing to every man and his dog and now his in ring work is sloppy at best. Obviously, the ability is still there but I don't think he cares as much as he did. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Rhyno could use a mini push with the hope of something bigger. The stuff with The Rock and Jericho still sticks in my mind.

†hë_Çøñg_Mðñ wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> Nah he's had more than that, and he HAS been a good IC Champ, to be
> honest I don't think there's anyone around whose deserved to take
> the
> title off him.
>
> There's plenty, but they're buried... Val Venis, Lance Storm, The
> Hurricane, Edge, Kane, Rhyno...etc...

Val Venis? Pfft come on, Orton is more talented and actually has a half-decent character.

Lance Storm? I liked Lance, but he was never over enough to be on RAW, let alone be IC Champion. I don't even think that's the WWE's fault, because they did turn him face, but the fans just didn't get into him.

Hurricane? Maybe, but I still don't think he could be considered as a serious contender for the IC Title. Should send him to SmackDown and make him Cruiser champ.

Edge? If I wanted to be bored to death then yes lets have Edge as IC Champion.

Kane? He's in a World Title match at Bad Blood...

Rhyno? Yes, I like Rhyno, give him a push.

Another guy I'd be happy to see with the IC Title around his waist is Christian.

It's your job as a wrestler if you're cutting a promo to make sure it's actually saying something relevant and is entertaining, 2 things Trish totally failed to do like always.

Just keep her off screen until the usual bikini contest or something every 3 odd months that's all she's useful for


I'm actually surprised Lipe picked up on that comment i made about Trish and not where i slagged off his beloved HHH though hehe

lalakersrule wrote:
> †hë_Çøñg_Mðñ wrote:
>
> I think most of the audience didn't get the fact she was cutting a
> deliberately rubbish promo, to take the mickey out of Jericho.
>
>
> No she was taking the mickey out of Jericho but doing a terrible job
> at it just like everything else she does in the WWE. She can't put on
> a decent wrestling match, and she can't even do a semi-decent promo.

I actually agree with that, as it was her fault that the fans didn't 'get it'

Ant wrote:
> Nah he's had more than that, and he HAS been a good IC Champ, to be
> honest I don't think there's anyone around whose deserved to take the
> title off him.

There's plenty, but they're buried... Val Venis, Lance Storm, The Hurricane, Edge, Kane, Rhyno...etc...