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"How the Bible disproves its own version of God"

Bit of Philosophy for you

The Bible claims God is:

All powerful (omnipotent)
All knowing (omniscient)
All loving
everywhere at once (omnipresent)

However because of the existence of pain the bibles version of god can only be three of the four things.

either Gods not all powerful (eg. can't stop pain)
not all knowing (doesn't know how to stop all pain)
not all loving (he couldn't care less)
not everywhere at once (cannot get to everywhere pain is)


What do you reckon? I don't exactly believe in God but its an interesting discussion.

Why do you have to be such a ?

"God exists"
"No he doesn't"
"Yes he does, I've read the bible"
"So? That's crap"
"No it's not"
"How can god exist if we suffer?"
"What existed before god?"
"Religion causes all the wars"
"What about Buddhism/Hinduism etc"
"I believe"
"Well you're wrong"
"No I'm not,you are"
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I think that just about covers just about all branches of where this will head over the course of the next 4 days.
What's amusing is that nobody here, pro and anti religion, is dead. So nobody can know for certain either way.
But please, continue with the enlightened debates,

Where's Churchy when you need him?

Its better than most of the poo posted on here.

And I'm BORRRRED

Here we go again.
The bi-monthly God vs No-God

*slumps in chair and flicks through magazine until this dies for another week*

There is no god. There is only science.

If there is a god where did it come from in the first place?

Of course God is also supposed to be able to make the impossible possible. so god could be both sexes and could be all 4 things. But this really is a bit of a lame counter argument.

pb wrote:
> Oh come on, you hadn't thought that one through, had you? 'man' is
> translated from the hebrew for human and the phrase 'created in his
> own image' is a rough traslation for the original, which was that God
> created humans in the image that was his making. It has also been
> taken to mean that he created humans with the same sense of moral
> right and wrong.

I had thought it through. Even by your definition it still doesn't add up. We don't all have the same attitudes and values, moral rights and wrongs. Otherwise there would never be conflicts of interest. Which there are.

Every time the Bible or a holy script is proven hypocritical, another meaning is created from the old one that isn't as bad. So forgive me if I seem less than receptive, because I've heard it before.

There is a disorder where certain neurological defect cause an individual to not be able to experiance pain. These people end up with horrfic injuries from burns and the like because they don't realise that they are being damaged.

What I am trying to say is we feel pain for a reason. To let us know when we are being damaged. Its a warning system, and its for out own good. I'm not a stranger to pain, be in no doubt about that, so I'm not trying to be insensitive to people who have chronic pain.

If There was a God and he stopped pain, it would not be an act of love.