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"How the Bible disproves its own version of God"

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Wed 21/05/03 at 13:29
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Bit of Philosophy for you

The Bible claims God is:

All powerful (omnipotent)
All knowing (omniscient)
All loving
everywhere at once (omnipresent)

However because of the existence of pain the bibles version of god can only be three of the four things.

either Gods not all powerful (eg. can't stop pain)
not all knowing (doesn't know how to stop all pain)
not all loving (he couldn't care less)
not everywhere at once (cannot get to everywhere pain is)


What do you reckon? I don't exactly believe in God but its an interesting discussion.
Wed 21/05/03 at 16:20
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Could always talk about the quaran (can't spell it) but:

1. I know nothing about it
2. SR may well get bombed, which is not good.
Wed 21/05/03 at 16:18
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"Orbiting Uranus"
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I dunno Its a pretty good story as works of fiction go.
Wed 21/05/03 at 16:16
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"One Of A Kind"
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The Bible is rubbish
Wed 21/05/03 at 16:16
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so he's not all-loving then? Makes sense.
Wed 21/05/03 at 16:05
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Hedfix wrote:
> and your theory runs into the 'god is all loving' bit. If thats true
> then the bible is wrong.

The Christian God only became 'all-loving' in the New Testament. In the Old Testament He spent most of His time spending down plagues and floods and generally destroying Sinners.
Wed 21/05/03 at 15:52
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Black Glove wrote:
> For the sake of the argument:
>
> Suffering is a consequence of Sin.
> If everyone turned to God and Jesus Christ our saviour, Sin would be
> eliminated from the human heart, thus pain/suffering etc would cease
> to exist.
> This is God's masterplan.
> In the meantime we have been given free-will to choose the right path
> or wrong path.
>
> Personally, I think it's all a load of baloney.

and your theory runs into the 'god is all loving' bit. If thats true then the bible is wrong.
Wed 21/05/03 at 15:41
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True.

Guess I'll be late for work in the morning then.
Wed 21/05/03 at 15:40
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"Orbiting Uranus"
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Do you even have to ask yourself that question?
Wed 21/05/03 at 15:35
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An unfortunate effect I seem to have on women...

I'm on a blind date tonight, should I be good or should I be bad?
Wed 21/05/03 at 15:35
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For the sake of the argument:

Suffering is a consequence of Sin.
If everyone turned to God and Jesus Christ our saviour, Sin would be eliminated from the human heart, thus pain/suffering etc would cease to exist.
This is God's masterplan.
In the meantime we have been given free-will to choose the right path or wrong path.

Personally, I think it's all a load of baloney.

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