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It does sound a bit out of the ordinary, and hasn't got very many members...ah if only they had thought of GAD!
It all sounds a bit freeky to me.
Mr Lover Man wrote:
> Oviously not my handy work but...
God (blasphemy)...I can't even spell OBVIOUSLY now
> Oviously not my handy work but...
God (blasphemy)...I can't even spell OBVIOUSLY now
Oviously not my handy work but...
Subud is a spiritual movement which had its origins in Indonesia in the 1920s and spread to the west in 1957. Subud members practise a form of worship known as the latihan.
Subud is not a religion, nor a sect of any religion, nor is it a teaching.
What many Subud members report is that gradually over time, the latihan enables them to contact their real inner self, so that they become more truly who they were destined to be. They become more 'alive'.
The latihan is a pragmatic experience which can be approached in the spirit of a scientific experiment. It can bring you proof of the reality of the spiritual life. It is a new way suited to this scientific and intellectual age, when people will only believe what they have really experienced for themselves.
It comes, like past revelations from God, at a moment of peril for humanity, when it seems the power of the technologies we have created has outstripped our capacity to control them. The latihan restores the balance between the spiritual and material. It provides a way of uniting the spiritual with everyday life, a path that is open to people of all religions, races and nationalities..
Subud originated in a revelation experienced by a young Javanese man, Muhammad Subud Sumohadiwidjojo, one night in 1925 in the city of Semarang. It came to England in 1957 and has since then spread all around the world. It is estimated there are about 12,000 active Subud members in about 80 countries.
Latihan
The spiritual experience which is the core of Subud is known as the "latihan", an abbreviation of the Indonesian term "latihan kejiwaan" meaning "spiritual exercise". The exercise is practised by men and women separately and is a contact with the power of Almighty God.
Bapak
In 1925 a young Javanese man had a spiritual experience which was to shape not only his own life but the lives of many thousands of other people. His experience was the foundation of the spiritual movement known as Subud. His name was Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo, and in later years, he would usually be know as "Bapak", an Indonesian term of affection and respect, meaning father.
Helpers
Some experienced members are designated to act as helpers. They are responsible for meeting with applicants and witness their opening. They also assist members with 'testing'. Being a helper is not a badge of spiritual merit. Bapak outlined various qualities a helper should have such as being experienced in the latihan and being generally well liked by the members. There is an organisational structure of helpers at local, national and international levels. For more information see the organisation section.
Testing
Testing is a way used by Subud members to seek the answers to practical and spiritual questions through the latihan.
Joining
Anyone over the age of seventeen can join Subud. People wishing to join are asked to wait for a period of three months before being opened. This gives them a chance to find out about Subud and to make a sincere and considered decision of their own free will. The waiting period is waived in certain circumstances such as for the children of Subud parents and for people over the age of sixty-three.
Those wishing to join should contact a local Subud group, or if that is not available their national organisation, and if one doesn't exist, the International Organisation. See the contacts page for further information.
Susila Budhi Dharma
The name Subud is usually regarded as an acronym formed from three Sanskrit words, Susila, Budhi and Dharma. Briefly, it can be understood to mean "the possibility for human beings to follow the right way of living".
Symbol
The Subud symbol consists of seven circles intersected by seven spokes. The symbol represents the various levels of life-force in the universe and can be said to represent the idea of planes of existence.
Subud & Religion
Since Subud puts forward no creed or dogma of its own, it is open to people of all religions; and in fact people of all religions, as well as those of no religion, do belong to Subud.
Subud is a spiritual movement which had its origins in Indonesia in the 1920s and spread to the west in 1957. Subud members practise a form of worship known as the latihan.
Subud is not a religion, nor a sect of any religion, nor is it a teaching.
What many Subud members report is that gradually over time, the latihan enables them to contact their real inner self, so that they become more truly who they were destined to be. They become more 'alive'.
The latihan is a pragmatic experience which can be approached in the spirit of a scientific experiment. It can bring you proof of the reality of the spiritual life. It is a new way suited to this scientific and intellectual age, when people will only believe what they have really experienced for themselves.
It comes, like past revelations from God, at a moment of peril for humanity, when it seems the power of the technologies we have created has outstripped our capacity to control them. The latihan restores the balance between the spiritual and material. It provides a way of uniting the spiritual with everyday life, a path that is open to people of all religions, races and nationalities..
Subud originated in a revelation experienced by a young Javanese man, Muhammad Subud Sumohadiwidjojo, one night in 1925 in the city of Semarang. It came to England in 1957 and has since then spread all around the world. It is estimated there are about 12,000 active Subud members in about 80 countries.
Latihan
The spiritual experience which is the core of Subud is known as the "latihan", an abbreviation of the Indonesian term "latihan kejiwaan" meaning "spiritual exercise". The exercise is practised by men and women separately and is a contact with the power of Almighty God.
Bapak
In 1925 a young Javanese man had a spiritual experience which was to shape not only his own life but the lives of many thousands of other people. His experience was the foundation of the spiritual movement known as Subud. His name was Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo, and in later years, he would usually be know as "Bapak", an Indonesian term of affection and respect, meaning father.
Helpers
Some experienced members are designated to act as helpers. They are responsible for meeting with applicants and witness their opening. They also assist members with 'testing'. Being a helper is not a badge of spiritual merit. Bapak outlined various qualities a helper should have such as being experienced in the latihan and being generally well liked by the members. There is an organisational structure of helpers at local, national and international levels. For more information see the organisation section.
Testing
Testing is a way used by Subud members to seek the answers to practical and spiritual questions through the latihan.
Joining
Anyone over the age of seventeen can join Subud. People wishing to join are asked to wait for a period of three months before being opened. This gives them a chance to find out about Subud and to make a sincere and considered decision of their own free will. The waiting period is waived in certain circumstances such as for the children of Subud parents and for people over the age of sixty-three.
Those wishing to join should contact a local Subud group, or if that is not available their national organisation, and if one doesn't exist, the International Organisation. See the contacts page for further information.
Susila Budhi Dharma
The name Subud is usually regarded as an acronym formed from three Sanskrit words, Susila, Budhi and Dharma. Briefly, it can be understood to mean "the possibility for human beings to follow the right way of living".
Symbol
The Subud symbol consists of seven circles intersected by seven spokes. The symbol represents the various levels of life-force in the universe and can be said to represent the idea of planes of existence.
Subud & Religion
Since Subud puts forward no creed or dogma of its own, it is open to people of all religions; and in fact people of all religions, as well as those of no religion, do belong to Subud.
These wierd things are always linked to one guy, who is probably very charasmatic in order to get loads of people to foloow him.
I remember that Latihan stuff from being a kid.
I remember that Latihan stuff from being a kid.
Weird!
www.xs4all.nl/~wichm/subud1.html
www.xs4all.nl/~wichm/subud1.html
Has anyone heard of Subud?
I'm just interested because I've had a flash back memory to my parents belonging to it when I was a child. I've also discoverd that my name is actually a Subud given name. But I don't know much about it.
I'm just interested because I've had a flash back memory to my parents belonging to it when I was a child. I've also discoverd that my name is actually a Subud given name. But I don't know much about it.
What I want to know is why do people believe stuff that is written in books such as the Bible and the Ku'ran (not sure on the spelling on that one)...why do millions and millions of people put their belief in something that very very few people actually follow completely, and has been rewritten several times.
Religious buildings hold no regligion...they are mearly bricks and mortar.
Religious books are no more than ink-printed peices of paper SOLD to you
All Religious beliefs are that man should cause no harm to man, yet people who drive cars, make cigarettes, kill themselves in suicide bombings are religious, they're just hypocritical nuts!
On a last point...if there are any Christians out there, why is it that anciant scrolls found in 1996 have been hidden by the people who hold the highest positions within the christian belief...surely what's ever on them should be shared with others...or is it because it would go to show that todays religous beliefs are nothing more that tosh?
Religious buildings hold no regligion...they are mearly bricks and mortar.
Religious books are no more than ink-printed peices of paper SOLD to you
All Religious beliefs are that man should cause no harm to man, yet people who drive cars, make cigarettes, kill themselves in suicide bombings are religious, they're just hypocritical nuts!
On a last point...if there are any Christians out there, why is it that anciant scrolls found in 1996 have been hidden by the people who hold the highest positions within the christian belief...surely what's ever on them should be shared with others...or is it because it would go to show that todays religous beliefs are nothing more that tosh?
To be honest, I'm an aetheist, I don't know.
I'd like to believe there was *something*, and that we go somewhere when we've passed on.
There is no proof that God exists.
There is no prrof that God doesn't exist.
I'd like to believe there was *something*, and that we go somewhere when we've passed on.
There is no proof that God exists.
There is no prrof that God doesn't exist.
There is no God!
Prove me wrong by showing me this God....you can't? You want me to proove there isn't? Well proove there is first, and then I'll proove there isn't!
Religion is for those people with a lack of direction or wellbeing in their live...and it creates war...no name me one war that has no religious implication, or background behind it...point made!
Prove me wrong by showing me this God....you can't? You want me to proove there isn't? Well proove there is first, and then I'll proove there isn't!
Religion is for those people with a lack of direction or wellbeing in their live...and it creates war...no name me one war that has no religious implication, or background behind it...point made!
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