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Insane Bartender wrote:
> The ring only turned people invisible anyway because Tolkien
> introduced a magic ring that turned people invisible in The Hobbit.
>
> Strange how Bilbo never felt any ill effects during the several months
> of adventure he had with the ring in that story...
As the story goes, Sauron was sort of dormant back then.
By the time Frodo gets it, Sauron as regained power and strengthened his influence over the ring, or something...
> The ring only turned people invisible anyway because Tolkien
> introduced a magic ring that turned people invisible in The Hobbit.
>
> Strange how Bilbo never felt any ill effects during the several months
> of adventure he had with the ring in that story...
As the story goes, Sauron was sort of dormant back then.
By the time Frodo gets it, Sauron as regained power and strengthened his influence over the ring, or something...
*sweeps pieces from board with arm*
I've had enough of games, I'm going to bomb you back into the stone age.
I've had enough of games, I'm going to bomb you back into the stone age.
May Kasparov's Bumper book of Chess guide my hand!
*Goblin takes your Queen, from behind*
Mate!
*Goblin takes your Queen, from behind*
Mate!
*waves fist at sky*
Curse your superior geek strength.
My "Art of War" smash your Tolkein's ass*smash smash*
Curse your superior geek strength.
My "Art of War" smash your Tolkein's ass*smash smash*
*Troll to King's Bishop four, thwack!*
*strokes beard*
Interesting, but my elf-stone would smash your orc-hammer with one mighty roll of the D20
Interesting, but my elf-stone would smash your orc-hammer with one mighty roll of the D20
I guess the difference between Bilbo finding the ring and thinking it useful, and Gollum seeing it and murdering someone for it almost immediately, does point to character being the greater evil, with the ring merely as a trigger.
You are inded right: I stand corrected.
The ring is a catalyst for evil desire and perhaps Gollum's considerable greed and selfishness was his downfall. His will was weak and his lonley existence lead to the ring gnawing away at his body, mind and soul.
Bilbo being virtuous and kind (for a thief) obviously thought little of the ring at the time, apart from the fact that it was a handy trinket. Only later in his life did he start to hear the ring calling him.
Even Gandalf overlooked it for the longest time.
The ring is a catalyst for evil desire and perhaps Gollum's considerable greed and selfishness was his downfall. His will was weak and his lonley existence lead to the ring gnawing away at his body, mind and soul.
Bilbo being virtuous and kind (for a thief) obviously thought little of the ring at the time, apart from the fact that it was a handy trinket. Only later in his life did he start to hear the ring calling him.
Even Gandalf overlooked it for the longest time.
What differenc would that make? If the story is to believed, Gollum's mind was poisoned over the course of 500 years to the point where he physically changed shape to resemble the warped depths of his mind, regardless of the fact that, during that time, Sauron was little more than a wisp on the wind.
Not sure if Sauron had risen from the shadow at that point, Mr pedantic.
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