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"Baby dies after Rottweiler attack"

I'm sure you all know about this, as someone who loves kids, I find it rather upsetting. It's a parents nightmare for something like this to happen especially so young as 6 months. I don't know what happened, I mean like my girlfriend said, "wasn't anyone there to prevent this?". Perhaps the parents were careless, I'm sure they knew they were vicious rottweilers.

Seraphim wrote:
> No, since when does anyone need a reason to do anything, animal
> or human.
>
> So Bullett, your telling me if you ever got a dog and fully
> trained it. It wouldnt attack anyone unless provoked.
>
> Take these dogs that say attack a sleeping baby, where is there
> threat there? Where was the tourment?

There's no such thing as 'fully trained', but yes - I'd be able to trin a dog in such a way that it wouldn't attack unless provoked. It's not hard, I've helped do it before. My last dog was a real softie, only turning volatile when given reason to.

As for your final baby comment - lack of training, simple as. If it had been taught right from wrong, it wouldn't have done that.

Neither do I more often than not owners are to blame for dog attacks by their actions or lack of them.

Oh I don't disagree with that at all, but I simply don't think all the blame can be put on a dog for such actions.

EDIT - this was in response to pb. reading Seraphim's stuff now.

We use the term fully trained, but you only train a dog as best you can, and sometimes your best wont be good enough.

No, since when does anyone need a reason to do anything, animal or human.

So Bullett, your telling me if you ever got a dog and fully trained it. It wouldnt attack anyone unless provoked.

Take these dogs that say attack a sleeping baby, where is there threat there? Where was the tourment?

It still means that dogs can be dangerous, and some breads are more likely than others to act that way.

At the end of the day, people are more important than dogs (that's not to say dogs shouldn't be kept well) and should be protected from any such possible attack.

Yeah but it isn't going to just think "oh what the hell, I fancy chewing some kid's face off today".

They don't have that level of thought. Like said, it'd be down to being startled/feeling threatened etc.

I still say it's down to the upbringing.

Yeah I think as much as you train any animal, it still has the capacity to turn wild and act on instinct.

If a dog feels threatened for whatever reason, no matter how well trained I think it'll bite.

Bullett wrote:

> I've never come across one yet

One of my friends had a little bulldog and one night when he was going to bed it was lying down on the sofa and he bent down to blow it a kiss and it sunk its teeth into his face.

I think he'd startled it and it just reacted instinctively. He didn't blame the dog and didn't have it put down but is shall we say a little smarter these days when it comes to animals.

Just never assume a fully trained dog wont attack!

You never know what goes on in a dogs head.