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Tue 19/11/02 at 14:41
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Discuss.





Now.
Tue 19/11/02 at 15:37
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things would be alot easier if tuition fees could be paid off in the same manner as the loans, then a grand or more won't have to be taken out from my student loan payments and I could afford to actually be here instead of having to worry about money every day.

with that stupid quote from the bbc
would a lot of young people get themselves into tens of thousands of pounds of debt for a holiday or car if it meant they would be financially screwed for more than 3 years then pay it off?

something else that winds me up about the system...
why as a final year student do I get a much smaller loan than I have had in previous years?.... I've looked at all my expenses and as far as I can see they are th same as all my previous 3 years
back on topic..
I think blair and co are quite happy at pushing ahead with top up fees as it means that they can buy their offspring into cambridge and oxford judgeing by some of the reports I've seen where only the wealthy will be able to afford to go to the top universitys.
Tue 19/11/02 at 15:36
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Your Honour wrote:

> 2. The general public (higher taxes - which you've also complained
> about. Quite ironic considering you don't actually pay any yet..)

Yup, the amount of people who have said to me. I hate students. All you do is sit around all day while we pay our taxes to support you.

Grrrrrrrrrr
Tue 19/11/02 at 15:36
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Shut up
Tue 19/11/02 at 15:35
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It won't come from just 1 of those 3 choices, obviously. The answer will probably be a mixture of the three.
Tue 19/11/02 at 15:35
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SHEEPY wrote:
> I wonder how many Labour MPs are sitting their with a free degree,
> hypocrites.


They're not hypocrites, because the money does have to come from somewhere. And it'll come from 1 of 3 places:

1. The Student (top up fees)
2. The general public (higher taxes - which you've also complained about. Quite ironic considering you don't actually pay any yet..)
3. The business sector - Businesses can sponsor students, or courses, so they get first pick of the newly graduated.
Tue 19/11/02 at 15:32
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Students in England and Wales are worse off than in Scotland because our parliament pays for everything until we have an income above a certain amount or something.

I wonder how many Labour MPs are sitting their with a free degree, hypocrites.
Tue 19/11/02 at 15:20
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Writing in a Sunday newspaper Mr Clarke said: "Many young people do not think twice about taking out a loan or credit to buy a car or a holiday.

"But a holiday or a car are depreciating assets, unlike education which gives you a start in life."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2487887.stm
Tue 19/11/02 at 15:19
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Rosalind wrote:
> There was a fantastic quote on the BBC website. Someone said something
> along the lines of. Lots of young people are willing to get into debt
> for a car or a holiday.

Not anyone i know. Perhaps they interviewed idiots.
Tue 19/11/02 at 15:17
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There was a fantastic quote on the BBC website. Someone said something along the lines of. Lots of young people are willing to get into debt for a car or a holiday.
Tue 19/11/02 at 15:10
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The fact that the government doesn't seem to realise is that - yes, students will end up earning more over their lifetime.

But, at the age 18,19,20 etc, they don't have that kind of money. They have less money than people of the same age who aren't at university.

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