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Hi all,
Well , got the PS2 and I have to say - WOW. Never has £300 been so well spent. How that little box can do all this is a mystery to me..
However - I have one little 'problem'.
Borrowed 'Lock Stock' from a friend on DVD and after watching for around 30 seconds noticed the sound had got out of sync with the picture (by about .5 seconds). I assumed it was a problem with the disc.
Paused it, went to get a coffee, came back and unpaused it , and it was all back in sync again. Weird or what ?
So question is , has anyone else noticed this, my friend claims the DVD is fine on his player.
PS - SSX absolutely rocks ! Go and buy it NOW. Right NOW.
Well , got the PS2 and I have to say - WOW. Never has £300 been so well spent. How that little box can do all this is a mystery to me..
However - I have one little 'problem'.
Borrowed 'Lock Stock' from a friend on DVD and after watching for around 30 seconds noticed the sound had got out of sync with the picture (by about .5 seconds). I assumed it was a problem with the disc.
Paused it, went to get a coffee, came back and unpaused it , and it was all back in sync again. Weird or what ?
So question is , has anyone else noticed this, my friend claims the DVD is fine on his player.
PS - SSX absolutely rocks ! Go and buy it NOW. Right NOW.
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Humpo, the SCART supplied with the ps2 is a low-quality composite video scart:
fist you have RF, which is your normal tv ariel. sound and picture info through a single cable.
then you have the supplied ps2 lead, which seperates into one video channel, and two seperate audio. obviously cos their seperate they're better, innit?
then you have s-video, which further seperates the video signal into colour and brightness signals, Chrominance and Luminance; this gives a better picture again.
Then you have RGB, (red, Green, Blue) which is better again cos you have seperate channels for each of the three colours that make up your tv picture.
You can also have component video, which uses a brightness signal and a selectin of colour difference signals to make the picture (I think).
RGB is the best standard supported by PS and PS2. The picture quality is Way better than the picture from the composite video lead supplied (notice that the PS2 SCART adapter has most of the pins missing....RGB uses those missing pins for better picture data)
However, the PS2 DVD playback doesn't support RGB, because it makes the DVD easier to copy onto another format, I believe. but the composite cable is not ideal for DVD or games, as it's a low-quality signal format, only one step better than your tv ariel lead.
the composite picture is particularly bad for games, and the RGB is FAR superior (anyone disagree with this?). but to watch dvd's you have to swap the cable, which a) damages the sockets on your TV or PSs and b) gives crappy DVD playback anyway.
does that help? sorry my notes are getting longer got to keep it short and sweet.
fist you have RF, which is your normal tv ariel. sound and picture info through a single cable.
then you have the supplied ps2 lead, which seperates into one video channel, and two seperate audio. obviously cos their seperate they're better, innit?
then you have s-video, which further seperates the video signal into colour and brightness signals, Chrominance and Luminance; this gives a better picture again.
Then you have RGB, (red, Green, Blue) which is better again cos you have seperate channels for each of the three colours that make up your tv picture.
You can also have component video, which uses a brightness signal and a selectin of colour difference signals to make the picture (I think).
RGB is the best standard supported by PS and PS2. The picture quality is Way better than the picture from the composite video lead supplied (notice that the PS2 SCART adapter has most of the pins missing....RGB uses those missing pins for better picture data)
However, the PS2 DVD playback doesn't support RGB, because it makes the DVD easier to copy onto another format, I believe. but the composite cable is not ideal for DVD or games, as it's a low-quality signal format, only one step better than your tv ariel lead.
the composite picture is particularly bad for games, and the RGB is FAR superior (anyone disagree with this?). but to watch dvd's you have to swap the cable, which a) damages the sockets on your TV or PSs and b) gives crappy DVD playback anyway.
does that help? sorry my notes are getting longer got to keep it short and sweet.
im confused ...when i opened my PS2 box i had a cable with 3 plugs on the end and a scart connector that this plugged into....it worked fine when i plugged the 3 leads into the front of my tv and it worked fine when i plugged the 3 leads into the adapter thingy and then plugged that into the back of my tv.... it also worked when i disconnected my PSX third party scartlead and plugged that into the back of my PS2....in fact i tried to get a a green picture but to no avail....is my PS2 magic...what is everyones problem
yeah it's well dodgy (sorry, I'm from Essex).
The way forward is probably via S-video.
however, the Sony S-video cable isn't available yet and there is a better alternative;
How about persuading UK Monster Cable stockist "Lenbrook" in Buckinghamshire to import the Gamelink 300 PS2-S-video cable(check out www.monstercable.com for more info!)
Anyone who wants to help persuade them, send an e-mail to
[email protected]
maybe if enough people want one they'll order some......
failing that we'll have to wait for the Sony Cable.
If you're brave you could try and make your own custom s-video cable; but I won't be trying that....just in case I take out my PS2 AND my TV in some bad-wiring induced explosion!
The way forward is probably via S-video.
however, the Sony S-video cable isn't available yet and there is a better alternative;
How about persuading UK Monster Cable stockist "Lenbrook" in Buckinghamshire to import the Gamelink 300 PS2-S-video cable(check out www.monstercable.com for more info!)
Anyone who wants to help persuade them, send an e-mail to
[email protected]
maybe if enough people want one they'll order some......
failing that we'll have to wait for the Sony Cable.
If you're brave you could try and make your own custom s-video cable; but I won't be trying that....just in case I take out my PS2 AND my TV in some bad-wiring induced explosion!
As far as I understand it, the new PS2 SCART *won't* play DVD's in full colour - the feature has been disabled inside the console itself, so no RGB SCART cable will work properly.
What I really don't understand about this is, how can Sony plug PS2 as a 'complete' home entertainment system, and then disable such a major feature/selling point?
It really seems to make no sense at all, and I hope an official explanation is forthcoming.
What I really don't understand about this is, how can Sony plug PS2 as a 'complete' home entertainment system, and then disable such a major feature/selling point?
It really seems to make no sense at all, and I hope an official explanation is forthcoming.
I think the problem is this:
first of all, the PS2 RGB cable will be the same as the PS RGB cable.
The standard we europeans know and love as SCART is actually a variable format, with different pinouts avilable for RGB, S-Video, etc.
The whole RGB issue is related to DVD piracy and "the company" getting potential sh*tkicking from big hollywood licencing-type people because the RGB cable affects the DVD copy protection, or something.
Some websites have suggested that by plugging your PS RGB cable into your S-video capable 2nd SCART socket on your TV, you'll get an s-video signal.
This is untrue; I tried it and got a picture that was, if anything, worse then the sh*tty composite!
The reason is that for S-video, the scart requires different wiring from RGB. (I looked this up today)
SO please don't believe any sites that say you can just plug your RGB cable into an S-video compatible SCART; it doesn;t work!
Meanwhile I'm trying to get hold of one of these Monster S-video cables, which I'll run through an S-video to SCART adapter, giving the correct wiring for S-video, and hopefully a better picture than the composite, though alledgedly not quite as crisp as pure RGB.
does this note help clear things up? don't think so! But I will say that I'm quite disappointed with SONY for not making an S-video capable SCART lead, and for not making the normal 4-pin S-video lead available yet!
first of all, the PS2 RGB cable will be the same as the PS RGB cable.
The standard we europeans know and love as SCART is actually a variable format, with different pinouts avilable for RGB, S-Video, etc.
The whole RGB issue is related to DVD piracy and "the company" getting potential sh*tkicking from big hollywood licencing-type people because the RGB cable affects the DVD copy protection, or something.
Some websites have suggested that by plugging your PS RGB cable into your S-video capable 2nd SCART socket on your TV, you'll get an s-video signal.
This is untrue; I tried it and got a picture that was, if anything, worse then the sh*tty composite!
The reason is that for S-video, the scart requires different wiring from RGB. (I looked this up today)
SO please don't believe any sites that say you can just plug your RGB cable into an S-video compatible SCART; it doesn;t work!
Meanwhile I'm trying to get hold of one of these Monster S-video cables, which I'll run through an S-video to SCART adapter, giving the correct wiring for S-video, and hopefully a better picture than the composite, though alledgedly not quite as crisp as pure RGB.
does this note help clear things up? don't think so! But I will say that I'm quite disappointed with SONY for not making an S-video capable SCART lead, and for not making the normal 4-pin S-video lead available yet!
Dave - definately interested in a 10 foot 'high quality' cable. Keep us posted on any progress.
Yep, it is a bad move by Sony. I don't really understand what they had to gain by this.
Why does the PS scart lead only play green DVDs and the 'new one' yet to arrive (PS2 Scart) will play DVDs ?
What is the difference ?
Yep, it is a bad move by Sony. I don't really understand what they had to gain by this.
Why does the PS scart lead only play green DVDs and the 'new one' yet to arrive (PS2 Scart) will play DVDs ?
What is the difference ?
Personally, it makes no difference to me, as I have a DVD player anyway, but it is still annoying.
I don't know why we should have this done to our machines for "piracy reasons" when, IMHO, such piracy is much more likely in the US (and possibly even Japan, as DVD players are expensive there).
At the end of the day, a VHS copy is going to be poor quality anyway, regardless of whether you use an RGB or composite connection, so I don't see the point. I see a pretty lucrative business popping up for people with the expertise to reconnect the necessary parts.
As for the Trade Descriptions Act, I don't think there would be a case. As you say yourself, it is sold as having DVD capabilities, and it has pretty much all of the playback facilities you need. It's only the output that they've modified.
It is definitely a bad move by Sony, though.
I don't know why we should have this done to our machines for "piracy reasons" when, IMHO, such piracy is much more likely in the US (and possibly even Japan, as DVD players are expensive there).
At the end of the day, a VHS copy is going to be poor quality anyway, regardless of whether you use an RGB or composite connection, so I don't see the point. I see a pretty lucrative business popping up for people with the expertise to reconnect the necessary parts.
As for the Trade Descriptions Act, I don't think there would be a case. As you say yourself, it is sold as having DVD capabilities, and it has pretty much all of the playback facilities you need. It's only the output that they've modified.
It is definitely a bad move by Sony, though.
I can't believe some of you "don't mind" Sony's mess up. Having just spent £300 on a piece of equipment sold as having full DVD capabilities I do not expect to have to compromie the quality of the picture by using anything less than an RGB Scart lead.
I hope someone will take Sony to task over this as there is a case that Sony are possibly breaking the Trade Descriptions Act. If Sony don't offer a modification then I hope that most of us will complain long and hard to Sony and the media.
Signed
Mr Angry!
I hope someone will take Sony to task over this as there is a case that Sony are possibly breaking the Trade Descriptions Act. If Sony don't offer a modification then I hope that most of us will complain long and hard to Sony and the media.
Signed
Mr Angry!
DVD playback is excellent with all types of conecction but sounds is just a litte bit low....can this be set via the browser ..i have not looked
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