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Tue 24/09/02 at 22:31
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I am not laughing at Rare, Rare were my third favourite company and my first favourite company kicked 'em out to you guys. Oh no I'm laughing at the fact that Microsoft expect Rare to release 5 games in 2 years....

Trust me it won't happen.
Sun 29/09/02 at 11:00
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Maverick42 wrote:
> garbe123 wrote:

> Starfox = Mixed reviews but looks good
>
> Mixed reviews? Everyone says it's great...

Mixed, I'd say 10 out of 10's everywhere are mixed I suppose, but that's not true is it.
Sun 29/09/02 at 11:00
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Maverick42 wrote:
> garbe123 wrote:

> Starfox = Mixed reviews but looks good
>
> Mixed reviews? Everyone says it's great...

Mixed, I'd say 10 out of 10's everywhere are mixed I suppose, but that's not true is it.
>
> Thr Legend of Zelda = Remake of a great game but its just a remake.
>
> So the Final Fantasy's are just remakes and unoriginal? Ocarina Of
> Time and Majora's Mask were 'just remakes'? Each one is new,
> innovative, original and an amazing game.
>
Sun 29/09/02 at 01:49
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Maverick you've turned this into exactly the opposite of what I intended it to be.

Let me make this clear.

*I DID NOT write that list as a list of GC exclusives (although being Nintendo games they obviously are)

*I only mentioned them to show just how many games Nintendo are making in such a short space of time, which is why they're negleting the GBA for a while.

*I forgot to add Wario World and F-Zero.

Also you've replied to garbe's comments, saying pretty much the exact same thing as I did, whats the point?

And Dringo, if DMA don't make a decent 'new generation' Lemmings game, or another Body Harvest game (minus bugs and empty landscapes) soon then they're not worth anything in my book.

And finally, this is *not* a "We've got the most/best exclusives/games with monkeys on our console" war, okay?
Sun 29/09/02 at 00:36
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garbe123 wrote:
> Luigi's Mansion = You are joking right?

It's a great game, just a little short.

> Mario Sunshine = Another Mario game?

Yeah, and should be best platformer of the year if magazines are anything to go by.

> Animal Crossing = Looks good and original

Indeed it does.

> Doshin = Doesn't appeal to me

Fair enough, but a great game nonetheless.

> Waverace = Never liked the first on N64, thought it was rubbish

Well, that's your opinion, but the GameCube version's much improved and a top title.

> Starfox = Mixed reviews but looks good

Mixed reviews? Everyone says it's great...

> Thr Legend of Zelda = Remake of a great game but its just a remake.

So the Final Fantasy's are just remakes and unoriginal? Ocarina Of Time and Majora's Mask were 'just remakes'? Each one is new, innovative, original and an amazing game.

> Mario Party = LOL
> Mario Tennis = LOL
> Mario Golf = LOL

What's so funny? Mario spin offs are some of if not THE best sports and party sims out there.

> Mario Kart = great racing game and a great title!
> Metroid Prime = Looks good so far, should be a great game!
> Eternal Darkness = Good game and good reviews, bit like RE!

Yep, all great, but Eternal Darkness is VERY different to RE.

> I can name a list as long as this for the Xbox exclusives if not
> longer!

Whitestripes has named but a few games off the top of his head. I could easily name longer.

> I know they are part of Nintendo but at the end of the day there are
> better developers out there than Nintendo. Rare, Bungie, Rockstar/Take
> 2, Team Ninja and Blizard soft make just as good a games as Nintendo,
> but once again the name must make it better, or not :)

All of those developers put together might come close to mastering what Nintendo can easily achieve, but on their own, Nintendo can beat them with a wave of the hand. Sure, the name plays a major part, but with good reason. Nintendo gained their reputation for producing quality gaming and caring for their customers, and continue to do so.
Sun 29/09/02 at 00:27
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Whitestripes wrote:
> With the exception of Starfox, they're all being made by Nintendo or
> 1st/2nd parties owned by Nintendo.

It's a joint Nintendo/Rare project actually, and I quote from NOM's preview:

"This is Rare's first GameCube offering, intriguingly made in partnership with Nintendo of Japan. So what do the two of the biggest names in games working together mean for a cherished Nintendo character?"
Sun 29/09/02 at 00:21
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gamezfreak wrote:
> Maverick, How many times do i have to tell you, Microsoft DON'T make
> games, Microsoft games studios do. Blinx Timesweeper is being
> Developed by Artoon and MGS, Published by Microsoft. That looks an
> original game title.

Fair enough, Microsoft Games Studios - why can't I abbreviate? And publishing doesn't count, as Nintendo have published every single game on the GameCube and GBA. So MGS have made half of Blinx, I doubt they came up with most of the ideas, after looking at their previous games.
Sat 28/09/02 at 23:28
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DMA are indeed a Rockstar first party... but DMA still make it and not Rockstar. Just cause Metroid is being made by Retro Studio's a Nintendo first party doesnt mean it isnt made by retro studios.

DMA are damn good, they make real quality games.
Sat 28/09/02 at 23:06
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Strafex, I beleive DMA design do not exsist anymore, they either merged with someone else to form Rockstar, or Rockstar bought them out completely.

Either way, that would mean Rockstar do develop games as well. Although I could be wrong.
Sat 28/09/02 at 22:47
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Anyway Garbe, although Luigi's Mansion is short compared to Nintendo's other games, it's still atleast TWICE as long as games like Max Payne...
Sat 28/09/02 at 22:32
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garbe123 wrote:
> Whitestripes wrote:
> Luigi's Mansion = You are joking right?

It's a classic a little short but classic originality.

> Mario Sunshine = Another Mario game?

yes but the first platformer in 6 years.

> Animal Crossing = Looks good and original

True.

> Doshin = Doesn't appeal to me

But surly applies to the above comment?

> Waverace = Never liked the first on N64, thought it was
> rubbish

The Gamecube version is worse.

> Starfox (not Dino) = Mixed reviews but looks good

Referring to the Namco version....

> Thr Legend of Zelda = Remake of a great game but its just a remake.

No it isn't.

> Mario Party = LOL

YAY great multiplayer laughs! if you have friends that is.

> Mario Tennis = LOL

Same as above.

> Mario Golf = LOL

Same as above.

> Mario Kart = great racing game and a great title!

Just as good as the above 3.

> Metroid Prime = Looks good so far, should be a great game!

WILL!

> Eternal Darkness = Good game and good reviews, bit like RE!

What's like RE? not ED that's for certain.

> With the exception of Starfox, they're all being made by Nintendo or
> 1st/2nd parties owned by Nintendo.
>
> I can name a list as long as this for the Xbox exclusives if not
> longer! I know they are part of Nintendo but at the end of the day
> there are better developers out there than Nintendo. Rare, Bungie,
> Rockstar/Take 2, Team Ninja and Blizard soft make just as good a games
> as Nintendo, but once again the name must make it better, or not :)

Erm no, no one makes better games than Nintendo or their second parties. Yep they may make the second best games but look at the best games in the world. the Super Mario's and the Zelda's always grab those headlines. Yep everyone rips off Nintendo cause they're the best. really never heared anyone deny it before, childish they say and too long to make a game maybe but not the best? pish!

Camelot, HAL, NTSC, PARAM, Silicon Knights, Retro Studio's, Game Developer studio (Squaresoft) Crawfish etc... all exclusive to Nintendo.

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