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The other day I was discussing with someone on here (Think it was Shocky but just in case it wasn’t I’ll leave it as “someone”) about getting an X-box. He replied; “I can’t believe it, Dringo the mighty Nintendo fan talking about getting an X-box”, with the questioned loyalty I shook such a thought out of my head and decided to move on to Doshin the Giant. But this isn’t the first (and it won’t be the last) time I was swayed by the X-box, in fact a total of 3 times had me try and claw a way of getting Microsoft’s black kit, and now with SR selling The X-box with Halo for a measly £209.99 I was VERY tempted (can you do a similar deal around Christmas do you think?). Why shouldn’t I get an X-box? True my obsession and seemingly unshakable loyalty to the longest running console manufacturer in the industry will be tarnished (yep that’s right I’m proud of it) but are really X-box the bad guys? I mean is the X-box really a result of money hungry Microsoft employees trying to destroy another industry, well no the fact is the X-box is being outsold by Nintendo, they are making a loss with every console sold and they say they won’t make a profit on it by 2006 but by then wouldn’t a successor the X-box be out? Have Microsoft for the first time really made a mess of things or are they here for a different reason? Yep you can tell I’m thinking of a different reason, that reason is to destroy Sony’s Playstation franchise.
Consoles are for Children through to Teenagers, any older and you’re not really interested, it is sad but most of you reading this now will probably give up gaming all together come 20 odd. Of course many adults do play games but the violent games are aimed at Teenagers so they can look at them and go “cool” and the rest are made for Children or sport nuts. The Gamecube isn’t a children’s console, but it does stick itself in the age bracket of 3-20 year olds, the ages where most gamers can be found, so why is it Sony and Microsoft aim at the 16-26 year old age bracket and still sell loads? It’s all to do with hardware, the PS1 was a games console, but the ability to play music CD’s as well probably swayed a good few older music fans of returning to gaming, mixed with more “mature” or “realistic” games it was a dawn of a new era, yet the dawn of the next era was very close indeed, it was with the death of SEGA’s console reign. After the Dreamcast failed to the seemingly unstoppable killing machine that was the PS2, Sony realized they could dabble in further areas of the industry. Nintendo were a mere piece of gum on the PS2’s shoe at the time and with no apparent opposition, Sony began to make the PS2 appeal to the older gamers, the 30 plus people by not changing anything regarding gaming. So imagine you’re a parent, your kids want a games console, and you see one in the shop that happens to have an in-built DVD player, why now the children can play the games and you can watch those awesome DVD movies.
People claimed the PS2 was falling into a trap of becoming a dumbed down PC, wrong it wasn’t falling into a trap this was deliberate. Nintendo always used to claim themselves as a family computer, this is utter rubbish as few 30-year olds play games (regularly) and so yes Nintendo have made a family “friendly” image but hardly an all round system for the family. The PS2 had meanwhile, the parents can watch the DVD films and the Children can play the games yes but then add a operating system in the form of Linux, a Hard drive, Internet access, a few further PC accessories like a mouse and you have your own portable PC for such a small price in comparison to an actual PC. A family unit all round was made and so many new opportunities arise in social segments, in business areas and of course Entertainment. Nintendo have no interest in developing down these aisles, Internet would only be developed by Nintendo for the use of games not for anything more, after all Nintendo push the fact across “THIS IS A GAMES CONSOLE”. Now naturally the fact the PS2 is descending in such varied sections of the industry will annoy at least a few different companies, I’m putting money on Phillips and other DVD player manufacturers not being too pleased with the PS2. Yet what can Phillip’s do about it? To bring down the PS2 they would need to enter as many markets as Sony including the game one which they have visited before and failed miserably. Panasonic are making small pot shots at Sony by signing with Nintendo, changing Nintendo’s console into one resembling Sony’s. Nevertheless no company would be as worried as Microsoft, a portable PC? Sony was the biggest threat to Microsoft since… well EVER, and the only way Microsoft could deal with it was to bring down the Playstation.
An opportunity arises where Microsoft can enter a new market, getting a foot into one of the fastest expanding industries around as well as putting a stop to this 30 million + selling threat. And so here we are today, and have Microsoft failed in their attempt to crush Sony? No they haven’t they may have only sold 3.8 million consoles worldwide so far (Gamecube has sold 4.8) but when a parent decides on a console and is tempted by the family computer idea who will they turn to now? A computer that boasts better specs, a DVD player built in, a hard drive built in, Internet from the box, Direct X tools… why it offers MORE than the PS2 and straight from the box for the SAME price. You are witnessing the downfall of the biggest selling games console, SEGA were here once remember. So what of Nintendo? Well the X-box has made the next fight much closer, next time the name “Playstation” isn’t going to sell Sony’s third beast and Microsoft are making it harder and harder for Sony by wearing away at them, and soon enough like many before, Sony may not survive, after all PS2 sales have dropped dramatically since the release of the X-box (not Gamecube) mainly because they are competing for the same turf.
And how does this help Nintendo? Well with Microsoft keeping Sony busy with the battle of the PC, Nintendo are increasing it’s sales (the pressure has been properly lifted after the N64 struggle), increasing it’s third party support, increasing its exclusive titles, increasing its adult demographic and most of all increasing it’s dwindled levels of respect. After Microsoft finally has Sony beat (be it out of pure resilience money wise or not), Nintendo will be sitting there ruling the section of the market, which is just about the gaming. Consumers will have the choice, go for Nintendo’s cheap games console or Microsoft’s expensive multi-system console, and no amount of advertisement will really have much effect, if its just a games console you’re after then Nintendo is the way to go but if you are after something for all the family then go get that Z-box. At the moment Sony have gone on to fight the war with Microsoft and SEGA have said their final farewells, Nintendo are now controlling a segment of the market no one is threatening.
So now can I buy an X-box?
Dringo.
Consoles are for Children through to Teenagers, any older and you’re not really interested, it is sad but most of you reading this now will probably give up gaming all together come 20 odd. Of course many adults do play games but the violent games are aimed at Teenagers so they can look at them and go “cool” and the rest are made for Children or sport nuts. The Gamecube isn’t a children’s console, but it does stick itself in the age bracket of 3-20 year olds, the ages where most gamers can be found, so why is it Sony and Microsoft aim at the 16-26 year old age bracket and still sell loads? It’s all to do with hardware, the PS1 was a games console, but the ability to play music CD’s as well probably swayed a good few older music fans of returning to gaming, mixed with more “mature” or “realistic” games it was a dawn of a new era, yet the dawn of the next era was very close indeed, it was with the death of SEGA’s console reign. After the Dreamcast failed to the seemingly unstoppable killing machine that was the PS2, Sony realized they could dabble in further areas of the industry. Nintendo were a mere piece of gum on the PS2’s shoe at the time and with no apparent opposition, Sony began to make the PS2 appeal to the older gamers, the 30 plus people by not changing anything regarding gaming. So imagine you’re a parent, your kids want a games console, and you see one in the shop that happens to have an in-built DVD player, why now the children can play the games and you can watch those awesome DVD movies.
People claimed the PS2 was falling into a trap of becoming a dumbed down PC, wrong it wasn’t falling into a trap this was deliberate. Nintendo always used to claim themselves as a family computer, this is utter rubbish as few 30-year olds play games (regularly) and so yes Nintendo have made a family “friendly” image but hardly an all round system for the family. The PS2 had meanwhile, the parents can watch the DVD films and the Children can play the games yes but then add a operating system in the form of Linux, a Hard drive, Internet access, a few further PC accessories like a mouse and you have your own portable PC for such a small price in comparison to an actual PC. A family unit all round was made and so many new opportunities arise in social segments, in business areas and of course Entertainment. Nintendo have no interest in developing down these aisles, Internet would only be developed by Nintendo for the use of games not for anything more, after all Nintendo push the fact across “THIS IS A GAMES CONSOLE”. Now naturally the fact the PS2 is descending in such varied sections of the industry will annoy at least a few different companies, I’m putting money on Phillips and other DVD player manufacturers not being too pleased with the PS2. Yet what can Phillip’s do about it? To bring down the PS2 they would need to enter as many markets as Sony including the game one which they have visited before and failed miserably. Panasonic are making small pot shots at Sony by signing with Nintendo, changing Nintendo’s console into one resembling Sony’s. Nevertheless no company would be as worried as Microsoft, a portable PC? Sony was the biggest threat to Microsoft since… well EVER, and the only way Microsoft could deal with it was to bring down the Playstation.
An opportunity arises where Microsoft can enter a new market, getting a foot into one of the fastest expanding industries around as well as putting a stop to this 30 million + selling threat. And so here we are today, and have Microsoft failed in their attempt to crush Sony? No they haven’t they may have only sold 3.8 million consoles worldwide so far (Gamecube has sold 4.8) but when a parent decides on a console and is tempted by the family computer idea who will they turn to now? A computer that boasts better specs, a DVD player built in, a hard drive built in, Internet from the box, Direct X tools… why it offers MORE than the PS2 and straight from the box for the SAME price. You are witnessing the downfall of the biggest selling games console, SEGA were here once remember. So what of Nintendo? Well the X-box has made the next fight much closer, next time the name “Playstation” isn’t going to sell Sony’s third beast and Microsoft are making it harder and harder for Sony by wearing away at them, and soon enough like many before, Sony may not survive, after all PS2 sales have dropped dramatically since the release of the X-box (not Gamecube) mainly because they are competing for the same turf.
And how does this help Nintendo? Well with Microsoft keeping Sony busy with the battle of the PC, Nintendo are increasing it’s sales (the pressure has been properly lifted after the N64 struggle), increasing it’s third party support, increasing its exclusive titles, increasing its adult demographic and most of all increasing it’s dwindled levels of respect. After Microsoft finally has Sony beat (be it out of pure resilience money wise or not), Nintendo will be sitting there ruling the section of the market, which is just about the gaming. Consumers will have the choice, go for Nintendo’s cheap games console or Microsoft’s expensive multi-system console, and no amount of advertisement will really have much effect, if its just a games console you’re after then Nintendo is the way to go but if you are after something for all the family then go get that Z-box. At the moment Sony have gone on to fight the war with Microsoft and SEGA have said their final farewells, Nintendo are now controlling a segment of the market no one is threatening.
So now can I buy an X-box?
Dringo.
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I hear your warning er-no, I am a big Dead or Alive fan, I love FPS and more to the point I LOVE Jet Set Radio... Yet the only time I played a box was Halo and I didn't like the controller... So maybe I'll try it a few more times... sadly no one in my school owns one :S
Oh and it isn't as if I'm swapping X-box for Gamecube, Nintendo are still the greatest games company alive, I still plan to get all those Gamecube games and I can guarentee I'll prefer my Gamecube, I'll support the Gamecube fully and if there is a multi-format game EVEN if it's more expensive I'll get the Cube version... It is just the X-box keeps tempting me, the last console that did this was the Dreamcast with a good deal here a good deal there and then one AWESOME deal came along and bang it was mine.
We'll wait and see.
Oh and it isn't as if I'm swapping X-box for Gamecube, Nintendo are still the greatest games company alive, I still plan to get all those Gamecube games and I can guarentee I'll prefer my Gamecube, I'll support the Gamecube fully and if there is a multi-format game EVEN if it's more expensive I'll get the Cube version... It is just the X-box keeps tempting me, the last console that did this was the Dreamcast with a good deal here a good deal there and then one AWESOME deal came along and bang it was mine.
We'll wait and see.
Strafex wrote:
> Hmmm...
Oh its the person who thought he wold POP a topic becuase he thought it would annoy me, whats the word I am looking for... Spammer!
> An Xbox is sort of tempting but Halo is the only game that interests
> me.
> Especially now I have a friend who has the game, an Xbox and 4 pads.
> Linking up for an 8 player deathmatch is definately something I'd
> like.
Thats the only game that interest you? Oh come on look deeper than that, that is the response from a Ninty Newbie coming into the Xbox forum and dropping a cheap coment like, "the Xbox is rubbish becuase it is big" and then running away. The Xbox has some awesome games out and believe it or not Bill Gates *HASN'T* put some sort of gasing chamber into the Xbox that release Nitrogen into the air. The Xbox is a great console, the problem is people don't play it they just assume that it is rubbish becuase of the so called *POOR SALES*, sales were poor to start off with but they are increasing as time goes on.
> The problem is, getting Halo, the Xbox AND 3 extra pads brings the
> price up to almost 300. It's not quite worth that much to me...
Once more, the Xbox has *MORE THAN JUST HALO*, go and read some reviews off IGN and tell me then if you aren;t interested in Dead Or Alive 3, Project Gotham Racing, RalliSport Challenge, Jet Set Radio Future, Max Payne, Amped: Freestyle Snowboarding, THPS3, Hunter: The Reckoning + a lot more top titles!
> Fingers crossed that the Xbox starts failing miserably and MS cut the
> price! :-)
Yet another typical response from a Ninty Fan-boy, unlucky for you the Xboxwon't fail miserably and I can guarantee you now that by Christmas you will be eating you words!
> Hmmm...
Oh its the person who thought he wold POP a topic becuase he thought it would annoy me, whats the word I am looking for... Spammer!
> An Xbox is sort of tempting but Halo is the only game that interests
> me.
> Especially now I have a friend who has the game, an Xbox and 4 pads.
> Linking up for an 8 player deathmatch is definately something I'd
> like.
Thats the only game that interest you? Oh come on look deeper than that, that is the response from a Ninty Newbie coming into the Xbox forum and dropping a cheap coment like, "the Xbox is rubbish becuase it is big" and then running away. The Xbox has some awesome games out and believe it or not Bill Gates *HASN'T* put some sort of gasing chamber into the Xbox that release Nitrogen into the air. The Xbox is a great console, the problem is people don't play it they just assume that it is rubbish becuase of the so called *POOR SALES*, sales were poor to start off with but they are increasing as time goes on.
> The problem is, getting Halo, the Xbox AND 3 extra pads brings the
> price up to almost 300. It's not quite worth that much to me...
Once more, the Xbox has *MORE THAN JUST HALO*, go and read some reviews off IGN and tell me then if you aren;t interested in Dead Or Alive 3, Project Gotham Racing, RalliSport Challenge, Jet Set Radio Future, Max Payne, Amped: Freestyle Snowboarding, THPS3, Hunter: The Reckoning + a lot more top titles!
> Fingers crossed that the Xbox starts failing miserably and MS cut the
> price! :-)
Yet another typical response from a Ninty Fan-boy, unlucky for you the Xboxwon't fail miserably and I can guarantee you now that by Christmas you will be eating you words!
Dringo, don't fall for the trap of buying an XBox. I brought one 3 months ago for 160 quid with Halo and 3 extra controllers and it has been the worst waste of money on computer console gear in a long while.
Reason I brought the console was for the originally Macintosh game Halo. I completed that within a week and didn't give it the same mark as Edge did. I now only rarely play my XBox, only really looking forward to MorroWind and probably HaloII. Nothing else. My mates prefer to come around and play Goldeneye than Halo. I really gave this console a chance and would the first to say if anything was great about it. Yes it has a huge amount of potential. That is clear. Yet I still am upset I jumped for a game which will be better on my Mac.
I can understand and hear what you are saying, however most of the people who have brought an Xbox only really wanted it for its potential. Hence the reason we get so many back on after 10 days or as trade-ins. GameCube will shine before the year is out. When those six games come out before Christmas. Wow.
Reason I brought the console was for the originally Macintosh game Halo. I completed that within a week and didn't give it the same mark as Edge did. I now only rarely play my XBox, only really looking forward to MorroWind and probably HaloII. Nothing else. My mates prefer to come around and play Goldeneye than Halo. I really gave this console a chance and would the first to say if anything was great about it. Yes it has a huge amount of potential. That is clear. Yet I still am upset I jumped for a game which will be better on my Mac.
I can understand and hear what you are saying, however most of the people who have brought an Xbox only really wanted it for its potential. Hence the reason we get so many back on after 10 days or as trade-ins. GameCube will shine before the year is out. When those six games come out before Christmas. Wow.
Hmmm...
An Xbox is sort of tempting but Halo is the only game that interests me.
Especially now I have a friend who has the game, an Xbox and 4 pads.
Linking up for an 8 player deathmatch is definately something I'd like.
The problem is, getting Halo, the Xbox AND 3 extra pads brings the price up to almost 300. It's not quite worth that much to me...
Fingers crossed that the Xbox starts failing miserably and MS cut the price! :-)
An Xbox is sort of tempting but Halo is the only game that interests me.
Especially now I have a friend who has the game, an Xbox and 4 pads.
Linking up for an 8 player deathmatch is definately something I'd like.
The problem is, getting Halo, the Xbox AND 3 extra pads brings the price up to almost 300. It's not quite worth that much to me...
Fingers crossed that the Xbox starts failing miserably and MS cut the price! :-)
This may finally change people's minds about you posting bias Nintendo posts all the time.
A nice change and a nice post Dringo. Deffinately GAD worthy!
A nice change and a nice post Dringo. Deffinately GAD worthy!
Whats a playstiom?
gamezfreak wrote:
> Sibs you make the nintendo forum sound like a bunch of biased kids
> with that comment.....
I would insult you here, but I don't really want an argument. Notice the winking smiley at the end? It was a joke. Get a sense of humour. Dringo was joking about his loyalty to Nintendo in the post, I made a further joke about that. Sorry if you don't get it, but don't start insulting me because of it.
> Sibs you make the nintendo forum sound like a bunch of biased kids
> with that comment.....
I would insult you here, but I don't really want an argument. Notice the winking smiley at the end? It was a joke. Get a sense of humour. Dringo was joking about his loyalty to Nintendo in the post, I made a further joke about that. Sorry if you don't get it, but don't start insulting me because of it.
Sibs you make the nintendo forum sound like a bunch of biased kids with that comment.....
Dringo wrote:
> So now can I buy an X-box?
Sure you can...
...but you'll never be allowed back in the Nintendo forum again!
;-)
> So now can I buy an X-box?
Sure you can...
...but you'll never be allowed back in the Nintendo forum again!
;-)
Dringo wrote:
> The other day I was discussing with someone on here (Think it was
> Shocky but just in case it wasn’t I’ll leave it as “someone”) about
> getting an X-box. He replied; “I can’t believe it, Dringo the mighty
> Nintendo fan talking about getting an X-box”, with the questioned
> loyalty I shook such a thought out of my head and decided to move on
> to Doshin the Giant. But this isn’t the first (and it won’t be the
> last) time I was swayed by the X-box, in fact a total of 3 times had
> me try and claw a way of getting Microsoft’s black kit, and now with
> SR selling The X-box with Halo for a measly £209.99
Yeah, thats a good deal, i got my xbox with Halo for £219.99, so thats quite a good deal there.
> I was VERY
> tempted (can you do a similar deal around Christmas do you think?).
> Why shouldn’t I get an X-box? True my obsession and seemingly
> unshakable loyalty to the longest running console manufacturer in the
> industry will be tarnished (yep that’s right I’m proud of it) but are
> really X-box the bad guys?
Nope just people tend to stick to other consoles without considering others.
> I mean is the X-box really a result of
> money hungry Microsoft employees trying to destroy another industry
All console companys (even Nintendo) are money hungry industrys.
> well no the fact is the X-box is being outsold by Nintendo, they are
> making a loss with every console sold and they say they won’t make a
> profit on it by 2006 but by then wouldn’t a successor the X-box be
> out? Have Microsoft for the first time really made a mess of things or
> are they here for a different reason? Yep you can tell I’m thinking of
> a different reason, that reason is to destroy Sony’s Playstation
> franchise.
I don't beleive Microsoft have amde a mess of things, They released this brilliant consoles, but Playstation/Nintendo fans tend to stick to their preffered console.
> Consoles are for Children through to Teenagers, any older and you’re
> not really interested, it is sad but most of you reading this now will
> probably give up gaming all together come 20 odd. Of course many
> adults do play games but the violent games are aimed at Teenagers so
> they can look at them and go “cool” and the rest are made for Children
> or sport nuts. The Gamecube isn’t a children’s console, but it does
> stick itself in the age bracket of 3-20 year olds, the ages where most
> gamers can be found, so why is it Sony and Microsoft aim at the 16-26
> year old age bracket and still sell loads? It’s all to do with
> hardware, the PS1 was a games console, but the ability to play music
> CD’s as well probably swayed a good few older music fans of returning
> to gaming, mixed with more “mature” or “realistic” games it was a dawn
> of a new era, yet the dawn of the next era was very close indeed, it
> was with the death of SEGA’s console reign. After the Dreamcast failed
> to the seemingly unstoppable killing machine that was the PS2, Sony
> realized they could dabble in further areas of the industry.
Yes the Playstation was revolutionary, The PS2 was just a meer update in my opinion.
> Nintendo
> were a mere piece of gum on the PS2’s shoe at the time and with no
> apparent opposition, Sony began to make the PS2 appeal to the older
> gamers, the 30 plus people by not changing anything regarding gaming.
> So imagine you’re a parent, your kids want a games console, and you
> see one in the shop that happens to have an in-built DVD player, why
> now the children can play the games and you can watch those awesome
> DVD movies.
>
> People claimed the PS2 was falling into a trap of becoming a dumbed
> down PC, wrong it wasn’t falling into a trap this was deliberate.
> Nintendo always used to claim themselves as a family computer, this is
> utter rubbish as few 30-year olds play games (regularly) and so yes
> Nintendo have made a family “friendly” image but hardly an all round
> system for the family. The PS2 had meanwhile, the parents can watch
> the DVD films and the Children can play the games yes but then add a
> operating system in the form of Linux, a Hard drive, Internet access,
> a few further PC accessories like a mouse and you have your own
> portable PC for such a small price in comparison to an actual PC. A
> family unit all round was made and so many new opportunities arise in
> social segments, in business areas and of course Entertainment.
> Nintendo have no interest in developing down these aisles, Internet
> would only be developed by Nintendo for the use of games not for
> anything more, after all Nintendo push the fact across “THIS IS A
> GAMES CONSOLE”. Now naturally the fact the PS2 is descending in such
> varied sections of the industry will annoy at least a few different
> companies, I’m putting money on Phillips and other DVD player
> manufacturers not being too pleased with the PS2. Yet what can
> Phillip’s do about it? To bring down the PS2 they would need to enter
> as many markets as Sony including the game one which they have visited
> before and failed miserably. Panasonic are making small pot shots at
> Sony by signing with Nintendo, changing Nintendo’s console into one
> resembling Sony’s. Nevertheless no company would be as worried as
> Microsoft, a portable PC? Sony was the biggest threat to Microsoft
> since… well EVER, and the only way Microsoft could deal with it was to
> bring down the Playstation.
>
> An opportunity arises where Microsoft can enter a new market, getting
> a foot into one of the fastest expanding industries around as well as
> putting a stop to this 30 million + selling threat. And so here we are
> today, and have Microsoft failed in their attempt to crush Sony? No
> they haven’t they may have only sold 3.8 million consoles worldwide so
> far (Gamecube has sold 4.8) but when a parent decides on a console and
> is tempted by the family computer idea who will they turn to now? A
> computer that boasts better specs, a DVD player built in, a hard drive
> built in, Internet from the box, Direct X tools… why it offers MORE
> than the PS2 and straight from the box for the SAME price. You are
> witnessing the downfall of the biggest selling games console, SEGA
> were here once remember. So what of Nintendo? Well the X-box has made
> the next fight much closer, next time the name “Playstation” isn’t
> going to sell Sony’s third beast and Microsoft are making it harder
> and harder for Sony by wearing away at them, and soon enough like many
> before, Sony may not survive, after all PS2 sales have dropped
> dramatically since the release of the X-box (not Gamecube) mainly
> because they are competing for the same turf.
I beleive XBOX and Gamecube will reign the games console market in the near future.
> And how does this help Nintendo? Well with Microsoft keeping Sony busy
> with the battle of the PC, Nintendo are increasing it’s sales (the
> pressure has been properly lifted after the N64 struggle), increasing
> it’s third party support, increasing its exclusive titles, increasing
> its adult demographic and most of all increasing it’s dwindled levels
> of respect. After Microsoft finally has Sony beat (be it out of pure
> resilience money wise or not), Nintendo will be sitting there ruling
> the section of the market, which is just about the gaming. Consumers
> will have the choice, go for Nintendo’s cheap games console or
> Microsoft’s expensive multi-system console, and no amount of
> advertisement will really have much effect, if its just a games
> console you’re after then Nintendo is the way to go but if you are
> after something for all the family then go get that Z-box. At the
> moment Sony have gone on to fight the war with Microsoft and SEGA have
> said their final farewells, Nintendo are now controlling a segment of
> the market no one is threatening.
The xbox does boast a hard drive, faster DVD drive and built in broadband capability rolled into one package, which is alot more than the PS2 can offer. Yes the PS2 is releasing interent capability and a hard drive but that means spending extra money - Making the xbox and Gamecube the cheaper console to buy in the long run.
>
> So now can I buy an X-box?
Yeah course you can!
> The other day I was discussing with someone on here (Think it was
> Shocky but just in case it wasn’t I’ll leave it as “someone”) about
> getting an X-box. He replied; “I can’t believe it, Dringo the mighty
> Nintendo fan talking about getting an X-box”, with the questioned
> loyalty I shook such a thought out of my head and decided to move on
> to Doshin the Giant. But this isn’t the first (and it won’t be the
> last) time I was swayed by the X-box, in fact a total of 3 times had
> me try and claw a way of getting Microsoft’s black kit, and now with
> SR selling The X-box with Halo for a measly £209.99
Yeah, thats a good deal, i got my xbox with Halo for £219.99, so thats quite a good deal there.
> I was VERY
> tempted (can you do a similar deal around Christmas do you think?).
> Why shouldn’t I get an X-box? True my obsession and seemingly
> unshakable loyalty to the longest running console manufacturer in the
> industry will be tarnished (yep that’s right I’m proud of it) but are
> really X-box the bad guys?
Nope just people tend to stick to other consoles without considering others.
> I mean is the X-box really a result of
> money hungry Microsoft employees trying to destroy another industry
All console companys (even Nintendo) are money hungry industrys.
> well no the fact is the X-box is being outsold by Nintendo, they are
> making a loss with every console sold and they say they won’t make a
> profit on it by 2006 but by then wouldn’t a successor the X-box be
> out? Have Microsoft for the first time really made a mess of things or
> are they here for a different reason? Yep you can tell I’m thinking of
> a different reason, that reason is to destroy Sony’s Playstation
> franchise.
I don't beleive Microsoft have amde a mess of things, They released this brilliant consoles, but Playstation/Nintendo fans tend to stick to their preffered console.
> Consoles are for Children through to Teenagers, any older and you’re
> not really interested, it is sad but most of you reading this now will
> probably give up gaming all together come 20 odd. Of course many
> adults do play games but the violent games are aimed at Teenagers so
> they can look at them and go “cool” and the rest are made for Children
> or sport nuts. The Gamecube isn’t a children’s console, but it does
> stick itself in the age bracket of 3-20 year olds, the ages where most
> gamers can be found, so why is it Sony and Microsoft aim at the 16-26
> year old age bracket and still sell loads? It’s all to do with
> hardware, the PS1 was a games console, but the ability to play music
> CD’s as well probably swayed a good few older music fans of returning
> to gaming, mixed with more “mature” or “realistic” games it was a dawn
> of a new era, yet the dawn of the next era was very close indeed, it
> was with the death of SEGA’s console reign. After the Dreamcast failed
> to the seemingly unstoppable killing machine that was the PS2, Sony
> realized they could dabble in further areas of the industry.
Yes the Playstation was revolutionary, The PS2 was just a meer update in my opinion.
> Nintendo
> were a mere piece of gum on the PS2’s shoe at the time and with no
> apparent opposition, Sony began to make the PS2 appeal to the older
> gamers, the 30 plus people by not changing anything regarding gaming.
> So imagine you’re a parent, your kids want a games console, and you
> see one in the shop that happens to have an in-built DVD player, why
> now the children can play the games and you can watch those awesome
> DVD movies.
>
> People claimed the PS2 was falling into a trap of becoming a dumbed
> down PC, wrong it wasn’t falling into a trap this was deliberate.
> Nintendo always used to claim themselves as a family computer, this is
> utter rubbish as few 30-year olds play games (regularly) and so yes
> Nintendo have made a family “friendly” image but hardly an all round
> system for the family. The PS2 had meanwhile, the parents can watch
> the DVD films and the Children can play the games yes but then add a
> operating system in the form of Linux, a Hard drive, Internet access,
> a few further PC accessories like a mouse and you have your own
> portable PC for such a small price in comparison to an actual PC. A
> family unit all round was made and so many new opportunities arise in
> social segments, in business areas and of course Entertainment.
> Nintendo have no interest in developing down these aisles, Internet
> would only be developed by Nintendo for the use of games not for
> anything more, after all Nintendo push the fact across “THIS IS A
> GAMES CONSOLE”. Now naturally the fact the PS2 is descending in such
> varied sections of the industry will annoy at least a few different
> companies, I’m putting money on Phillips and other DVD player
> manufacturers not being too pleased with the PS2. Yet what can
> Phillip’s do about it? To bring down the PS2 they would need to enter
> as many markets as Sony including the game one which they have visited
> before and failed miserably. Panasonic are making small pot shots at
> Sony by signing with Nintendo, changing Nintendo’s console into one
> resembling Sony’s. Nevertheless no company would be as worried as
> Microsoft, a portable PC? Sony was the biggest threat to Microsoft
> since… well EVER, and the only way Microsoft could deal with it was to
> bring down the Playstation.
>
> An opportunity arises where Microsoft can enter a new market, getting
> a foot into one of the fastest expanding industries around as well as
> putting a stop to this 30 million + selling threat. And so here we are
> today, and have Microsoft failed in their attempt to crush Sony? No
> they haven’t they may have only sold 3.8 million consoles worldwide so
> far (Gamecube has sold 4.8) but when a parent decides on a console and
> is tempted by the family computer idea who will they turn to now? A
> computer that boasts better specs, a DVD player built in, a hard drive
> built in, Internet from the box, Direct X tools… why it offers MORE
> than the PS2 and straight from the box for the SAME price. You are
> witnessing the downfall of the biggest selling games console, SEGA
> were here once remember. So what of Nintendo? Well the X-box has made
> the next fight much closer, next time the name “Playstation” isn’t
> going to sell Sony’s third beast and Microsoft are making it harder
> and harder for Sony by wearing away at them, and soon enough like many
> before, Sony may not survive, after all PS2 sales have dropped
> dramatically since the release of the X-box (not Gamecube) mainly
> because they are competing for the same turf.
I beleive XBOX and Gamecube will reign the games console market in the near future.
> And how does this help Nintendo? Well with Microsoft keeping Sony busy
> with the battle of the PC, Nintendo are increasing it’s sales (the
> pressure has been properly lifted after the N64 struggle), increasing
> it’s third party support, increasing its exclusive titles, increasing
> its adult demographic and most of all increasing it’s dwindled levels
> of respect. After Microsoft finally has Sony beat (be it out of pure
> resilience money wise or not), Nintendo will be sitting there ruling
> the section of the market, which is just about the gaming. Consumers
> will have the choice, go for Nintendo’s cheap games console or
> Microsoft’s expensive multi-system console, and no amount of
> advertisement will really have much effect, if its just a games
> console you’re after then Nintendo is the way to go but if you are
> after something for all the family then go get that Z-box. At the
> moment Sony have gone on to fight the war with Microsoft and SEGA have
> said their final farewells, Nintendo are now controlling a segment of
> the market no one is threatening.
The xbox does boast a hard drive, faster DVD drive and built in broadband capability rolled into one package, which is alot more than the PS2 can offer. Yes the PS2 is releasing interent capability and a hard drive but that means spending extra money - Making the xbox and Gamecube the cheaper console to buy in the long run.
>
> So now can I buy an X-box?
Yeah course you can!
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