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Thu 11/07/02 at 12:34
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Anyone who can afford to play PC games is priveliged, because the price of gaming on a PC is never worth it. I have GTA3 on my PS2 and I here it is now out for PC the only problem you need a 750Mhz P3 to run it, my laptop could not handle that and for a game that is visually ok, but nothing special that is a lot of spec required. Then there are graphic card updates that you need which can cost as much as a Next Gen console, and the hassle of setting the game up for running on your PC. No I'm affraid my pc days have long gone unless I bought an Xbox I suppose.
Fri 12/07/02 at 12:01
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Dave RJR wrote:
> eeek, i would struggle to do my job on a 17" monitor. Even
> 19" is only just about right. Someone here has a 21" screen!
> The only 14/15'" style screen is on our server.

what the hell is it you're supposed to be looking at? A 17" monitor is more than sufficient for anything except looking at images bigger than the screen resolution, which is hardly important work.

Face it, you're talking crap.
Fri 12/07/02 at 12:01
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Re: Windows 98 is the most demanding piece of software available.
Almost all pc's ship with Win XP already installed - more demanding than Win 98 by some way. Some people could choose to "downgrade" to Win 98 from XP, but most would not want to go that far.
Fri 12/07/02 at 12:00
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Dave RJR wrote:
> What about GTA4 when it launches? That will run on a PS2, but you
> might need an upgrade to run it on the PC. Even if GTA4 were to look a
> "bit" better on a PC, chances are it will need to be fairly
> powerful (upgrade). PS2 (apart from memory cards) only needs the games
> - no need for an upgrade, so costs less to run.

I doubt it. You see, the reason a lot of stuff requires high system specs is because people just don't know how to get the most out of their PC. Disk Management, regular defragmentation, processor overclocking etc. All these can be used to make your PC exceed it's limits. Yet another thing you can't do with a console.
Fri 12/07/02 at 11:57
"Darkness, always"
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Dave RJR wrote:
> as for Vinyl, for DJ's it really is the only option (but u can buy CD
> systems with similar functions now - but rare i think)

Wrong, most DJs today use CD mixing systems. Why I don't know. Gemini and Pioneer make some good systems, but you still can't scratch, rewind or anything useful. All the BEST DJs use vinyl.

> If u spend a
> good deal of money on a Vinyl deck for home use, then pipe it into a
> really top amp with the best inters, and bang on speakers with great
> cables + connections, yes it wouldn’t sound bad at all. But u could
> get a cd compact system with good sound for a less.

The difference between good sound and GREAT sound was the selling point of CDs. Ironic that their sound quality was actually inferior to a previous format.

> Don’t get me wrong
> here, if you can afford it, get separates - even the um cheaper seps
> are better than most compacts. But compacts do have their place -
> small rooms, etc, etc. And as u spend more money on a compact, then
> the sound starts to get similar to that of cheaper separates.

compact systems are gay. My girlfriend has a technics stereo with all the little bits. Her speakers? 20 watts.

My speakers are nice 100 watt WharfeDale monsters, not only do they go much, much louder, they keep the sound quality in bass, mid and treble all the way up without distortion.
Fri 12/07/02 at 11:56
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Posts: 1,106
What about GTA4 when it launches? That will run on a PS2, but you might need an upgrade to run it on the PC. Even if GTA4 were to look a "bit" better on a PC, chances are it will need to be fairly powerful (upgrade). PS2 (apart from memory cards) only needs the games - no need for an upgrade, so costs less to run.
Fri 12/07/02 at 11:53
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Dave RJR wrote:
> Yes you could say that, but a console life span is 4-5 years, whereas
> a pc useful life span (ie for running big software and major games) is
> much shorter (about 2 years depending of which software you want to
> run). You could upgrade the pc to keep it current for longer, but
> thats another expense the console users dont have to worry about.

nonsense. Windows 98 is the most demanding piece of software available, and it's almost 5 years old now. A top of the line PC from 5 years ago will still be going OK today, that would be a PII, but could still be easilly 500mhz.

Besides which, playing games is only a part of what you pay for in a PC. Consoles are cheap because they are only good for one thing. Playing games.

PCs you can not only play games, you can make them, our capacity is limited only buy our imagination. Your capacity is limited by what you are handed down.

Who's feeding from scraps now rat-boy?
Fri 12/07/02 at 11:40
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Techno freak wrote:
> I have done that before on an older PC and it does work as long as you
> turn some of the detail off like trees in the background less
> texturing and objects on the verge. Sounds like fun or you could
> just buy a proper console which is optimised for the game.

No, we had full options up and that's with an old TNT video card as well
Fri 12/07/02 at 08:12
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Posts: 1,106
Re upgrades. New games for PS2 don't work on the PS1 either. Move along, move along.

Yes you could say that, but a console life span is 4-5 years, whereas a pc useful life span (ie for running big software and major games) is much shorter (about 2 years depending of which software you want to run). You could upgrade the pc to keep it current for longer, but thats another expense the console users dont have to worry about.
Thu 11/07/02 at 21:06
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Posts: 1,106
as for Vinyl, for DJ's it really is the only option (but u can buy CD systems with similar functions now - but rare i think). If u spend a good deal of money on a Vinyl deck for home use, then pipe it into a really top amp with the best inters, and bang on speakers with great cables + connections, yes it wouldn’t sound bad at all. But u could get a cd compact system with good sound for a less. Don’t get me wrong here, if you can afford it, get separates - even the um cheaper seps are better than most compacts. But compacts do have their place - small rooms, etc, etc. And as u spend more money on a compact, then the sound starts to get similar to that of cheaper separates.
Thu 11/07/02 at 17:35
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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Techno freak wrote:
> I have though about that and I wonder how many can play GTA3? do they
> all own computers with 750Mhz P3's inside.

Here we go again...

I've got a PII 450 and I'm running GTA 3 quite happily...

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