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So the government are looking at ID cards again.
What is the problem with them ? I was watching the news this morning and the presenter was coming out with the reasons that the Civil Liberties groups are coming out with.
If you go into a shop and pay with your credit card you will have to show your ID card as well - what's wrong with that then ? Surely this will cut down on an enormous amount of Card fraud.
If you go to a chemist to pick up a prescription you will have to show your ID card to prove who you are - So druggies wont be able to get false prescriptions of methadone anymore.
If you go to sign on you will have to produce your ID card to prove your identity - So this will help cut down on benefit fraud then.
The way I see it is that basically the only people who need to worry about having to carry an ID card with you all the time are people who are deliberately trying to break the law. The majority of law abiding citizens have no problem with bringing in such a scheme at all.
Am I right or not ?
What is the problem with them ? I was watching the news this morning and the presenter was coming out with the reasons that the Civil Liberties groups are coming out with.
If you go into a shop and pay with your credit card you will have to show your ID card as well - what's wrong with that then ? Surely this will cut down on an enormous amount of Card fraud.
If you go to a chemist to pick up a prescription you will have to show your ID card to prove who you are - So druggies wont be able to get false prescriptions of methadone anymore.
If you go to sign on you will have to produce your ID card to prove your identity - So this will help cut down on benefit fraud then.
The way I see it is that basically the only people who need to worry about having to carry an ID card with you all the time are people who are deliberately trying to break the law. The majority of law abiding citizens have no problem with bringing in such a scheme at all.
Am I right or not ?
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Meka Dragon wrote:
> A) I'm not paying for it.
Who else is gonna pay for it?
> A) I'm not paying for it.
Who else is gonna pay for it?
My problem with this is that no doubt I'd have to do something in order to get one - be it fill out a form, or send some information, and personally, I can't be bothered with that kind of thing anymore.
If they want me to have an identity card then:
A) I'm not paying for it.
B) They can bloody well bring it to me, and not make me sign documents, and find passports and stuff.
If they want me to have an identity card then:
A) I'm not paying for it.
B) They can bloody well bring it to me, and not make me sign documents, and find passports and stuff.
er-no wrote:
> Anything is forgable.
That's like saying you can forge a working credit card, which is absurd.
> Anything is forgable.
That's like saying you can forge a working credit card, which is absurd.
When I was in Germany, we were given ID cards incase we were stopped by the police. That was back in 1996 - look how far behind we are.
Personally, I'm all for them. I don't drive and I don't have a passport, so as long as they can be used as proof of age, I'll gladly carry one. It's embarassing when a bouncer asks for ID, especially when you've been going out drinking since you were 15 and never had trouble getting in anywhere... OK, I'll stop complaining about bouncers (I just hate them so much)
Personally, I'm all for them. I don't drive and I don't have a passport, so as long as they can be used as proof of age, I'll gladly carry one. It's embarassing when a bouncer asks for ID, especially when you've been going out drinking since you were 15 and never had trouble getting in anywhere... OK, I'll stop complaining about bouncers (I just hate them so much)
Insane Bartender wrote:
> If you put in the sort of safeguards the likes of a £10 note
> has, and make the cards magnetically stripped, they aren't forgable at
> all..
Anything is forgable.
> If you put in the sort of safeguards the likes of a £10 note
> has, and make the cards magnetically stripped, they aren't forgable at
> all..
Anything is forgable.
If you put in the sort of safeguards the likes of a £10 note has, and make the cards magnetically stripped, they aren't forgable at all..
The good thing is about a non-compulsory id card scheme is that you may not HAVE to have one, but you may well need one if you want to buy anything on a credit card...
ID cards would be easier to forge than things like passports.. Thats what would happen.
My only major objection to ID cards would be on behalf of the pubs of Leamington, whose trade on a Friday night would collapse if young people weren't able to claim that they were 18 and show off their fake "prove-it" cards.
I think ID cards are a good idea in moderation; however, the government's scheme is pretty pointless as it isn't compulsory. I you don't want an ID card you don't have to get one, and it'll only stop you from doing certain things. If you want to have a workable system then you should ensure that everyone has to have an ID card, although not make it a requirement to have it at all times.
It might also be a good idea to start gathering genetic information from the younger generations who sign up. This might constitute a gross invasion of privacy in some people's eyes, but it could b used to eradicate crime in the future, because the over-riding concern for most criminals is the likelihood of getting caught, and often not the punishment that awaits if caught. If in the future a database of DNA codes was set up, it would probably be a good thing if properly regulated. It might also have the great upshot of forcing career criminals to move abroad, where they could wreak havoc in continental Europe.
I think ID cards are a good idea in moderation; however, the government's scheme is pretty pointless as it isn't compulsory. I you don't want an ID card you don't have to get one, and it'll only stop you from doing certain things. If you want to have a workable system then you should ensure that everyone has to have an ID card, although not make it a requirement to have it at all times.
It might also be a good idea to start gathering genetic information from the younger generations who sign up. This might constitute a gross invasion of privacy in some people's eyes, but it could b used to eradicate crime in the future, because the over-riding concern for most criminals is the likelihood of getting caught, and often not the punishment that awaits if caught. If in the future a database of DNA codes was set up, it would probably be a good thing if properly regulated. It might also have the great upshot of forcing career criminals to move abroad, where they could wreak havoc in continental Europe.
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