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Wed 03/07/02 at 09:30
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So the government are looking at ID cards again.

What is the problem with them ? I was watching the news this morning and the presenter was coming out with the reasons that the Civil Liberties groups are coming out with.

If you go into a shop and pay with your credit card you will have to show your ID card as well - what's wrong with that then ? Surely this will cut down on an enormous amount of Card fraud.

If you go to a chemist to pick up a prescription you will have to show your ID card to prove who you are - So druggies wont be able to get false prescriptions of methadone anymore.

If you go to sign on you will have to produce your ID card to prove your identity - So this will help cut down on benefit fraud then.

The way I see it is that basically the only people who need to worry about having to carry an ID card with you all the time are people who are deliberately trying to break the law. The majority of law abiding citizens have no problem with bringing in such a scheme at all.

Am I right or not ?
Mon 08/07/02 at 15:35
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
I choose not to argue you on that point ;P
Mon 08/07/02 at 15:29
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> cookie monster wrote:
> as a short person for my
> height i always have to have ID with me
>
> As opposed to other people your height who are taller than you?

Ho ho, iam a mong.
Mon 08/07/02 at 14:41
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
cookie monster wrote:
> as a short person for my
> height i always have to have ID with me

As opposed to other people your height who are taller than you?
Mon 08/07/02 at 14:21
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"Well hit on me..."
Posts: 1,169
As long as they are free or a small amount (no more than £5) i'll get one, and i'm all for it.

N.B The goverment also says that you do not have to carry the card with you at all times, unless you are an immigrant. A bit like driving licences you will be able to produce your card at a police station within a week.

On a note of driving licenses, there is no way I will be willing for an ID card if they cost as much as they do 20 odd quid for a proficiency, and as I work as a contractor for the DVLA on there printing systems. I know there is no way it could cost them even a fiver to produce a card!!!!
Mon 08/07/02 at 11:30
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"+34 Intellect"
Posts: 21,334
I cant really see a problem with them really, as a short person for my height i always have to have ID with me, this would save me some trouble, and provided they are free, money as well.
Mon 08/07/02 at 11:08
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
pb wrote:
> We all know that the government pockets a vast amount of money from
> the National Lottery and from Tax in general, so why not provide them
> for free and let the government pay for once?

Of course, tax money isn't at all used to fund the NHS, the police, fire service, military, education, research and development or anything like that. No, they just sit on huge sums of money and laugh at the taxpayer.

No, really...
Sun 07/07/02 at 23:56
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"That's right!"
Posts: 10,645
I can't see any logical reason as to why people would be against them, other than pb's point about them having something to hide. I actually hope they appear, and I can get one. Saves me getting another form of ID
Sun 07/07/02 at 23:15
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MoJoJoJo wrote:
> The card should either cost something pathetic like £5 (even if
> that doesn't cover the costs) or the government should pay for it. And
> all we should have to do is get a SMALL form, fill it in and take it
> in to a place where they take your photo and you leave with the card
> that very same day#

We all know that the government pockets a vast amount of money from the National Lottery and from Tax in general, so why not provide them for free and let the government pay for once?

I think they would be a good idea and personally believe that it is mostly people with something to hide that are opposed to the idea.
Sat 06/07/02 at 01:44
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Posts: 14,117
I wouldn't have a problem with carrying an ID card, I already have a number of things in my wallet that could be used to identify me if my dead body was found.

Driving licence, National Insurance card, a couple of bank cards, membership cards for various things - any of those can ID me, so what difference would carrying an official ID make? None.

Putting it like that, why have them? What does the government want to use them for exactly? I haven't been able to keep up to date with the news recently, for various reasons, so if someone could explain to me what they're going to be used for, that would be helpful. Cheers.
Fri 05/07/02 at 11:10
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The card should either cost something pathetic like £5 (even if that doesn't cover the costs) or the government should pay for it. And all we should have to do is get a SMALL form, fill it in and take it in to a place where they take your photo and you leave with the card that very same day

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