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I think Xbox will be Number 1 for this Xmas 2002 presents and it happen with PS2 last year and it might do with Xbox this year. But Microsoft might dropped the price for Xmas. It would be very interesting to see punters rush out buying Xbox before Xmas Day so Number 1 present will be Xbox and Halo, DOA 3, PGR.
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WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> gamezfreak wrote:
> I beleive the only reason that the PS2 sold is because of GTA3.
>
> Well if that isn't an admission that Xbox doesn't currently have the
> software to compete, I don't know what is.
>
> Have you forgotten the 18 million units plus that PS2 had sold prior
> to the release of GTA3? PS2 is a damn good console with damn good
> games - that's why it sells.
>
> Xbox is also a damn good console, but the range and quality of the
> games is currently insufficient for a console that promised so much so
> quickly. It should improve by Christmas. Personally I hope that
> doesn't prove to be too late.
I agree 100% with this. As I said before, there is work to be done if the Xbox is to be a Xmas success.
> gamezfreak wrote:
> I beleive the only reason that the PS2 sold is because of GTA3.
>
> Well if that isn't an admission that Xbox doesn't currently have the
> software to compete, I don't know what is.
>
> Have you forgotten the 18 million units plus that PS2 had sold prior
> to the release of GTA3? PS2 is a damn good console with damn good
> games - that's why it sells.
>
> Xbox is also a damn good console, but the range and quality of the
> games is currently insufficient for a console that promised so much so
> quickly. It should improve by Christmas. Personally I hope that
> doesn't prove to be too late.
I agree 100% with this. As I said before, there is work to be done if the Xbox is to be a Xmas success.
I'm glad there are people like Wookiee Monster on the forums - always puts an end to a console related argument.
E.g.
Argument against the Xbox > prompts question, "Do you have an Xbox? Have you played an Xbox?"
If Yes > Argument defused
If No > Reply "Then stop criticisng the far superior Xbox and go away and play your kiddy 'Cube/old PS2/both!"
Phew, that looks like a algorithm.
E.g.
Argument against the Xbox > prompts question, "Do you have an Xbox? Have you played an Xbox?"
If Yes > Argument defused
If No > Reply "Then stop criticisng the far superior Xbox and go away and play your kiddy 'Cube/old PS2/both!"
Phew, that looks like a algorithm.
gamezfreak wrote:
> The only reason they brought their PS2 was because of GTA3
Well, buying a machine for one game is a bit silly - a mistake I made myself when buying the Xbox for Halo! At least none of us will make the same mistake again, but the difference is I'm persevering with the Xbox for a little longer.
> half of em are flogging em off cheap due to the fact of the
> PS2's not as good graphics
If they're deciding what makes a "good console" based on graphics, then I'm sorry but they're fools. Xbox isn't *that* superior to the other systems, as evidenced by many of the screenshots in OXM; one game I'm particuarly interested in is Third Echelon, but if you look at the screenshots, it suffers from jaggies just as badly as any PS2 game. Your friends will soon come to realise that pretty graphics do not necessarily make a good game.
> and has not many games that come of intrest to them.
That, on the other hand, is a perfectly valid reason. If they don't think any of the forthcoming PS2 games appeal to them, that's fine. Although if they enjoyed GTA3, surely they would at least enjoy 'GTA Vice City' and 'The Getaway'?
Anyway, I'm glad you and your friends are happy with the Xbox. Hopefully I will be too, eventually.
> The only reason they brought their PS2 was because of GTA3
Well, buying a machine for one game is a bit silly - a mistake I made myself when buying the Xbox for Halo! At least none of us will make the same mistake again, but the difference is I'm persevering with the Xbox for a little longer.
> half of em are flogging em off cheap due to the fact of the
> PS2's not as good graphics
If they're deciding what makes a "good console" based on graphics, then I'm sorry but they're fools. Xbox isn't *that* superior to the other systems, as evidenced by many of the screenshots in OXM; one game I'm particuarly interested in is Third Echelon, but if you look at the screenshots, it suffers from jaggies just as badly as any PS2 game. Your friends will soon come to realise that pretty graphics do not necessarily make a good game.
> and has not many games that come of intrest to them.
That, on the other hand, is a perfectly valid reason. If they don't think any of the forthcoming PS2 games appeal to them, that's fine. Although if they enjoyed GTA3, surely they would at least enjoy 'GTA Vice City' and 'The Getaway'?
Anyway, I'm glad you and your friends are happy with the Xbox. Hopefully I will be too, eventually.
People at my school are getting bored with their PS2's ans selling em off for the XBOX due to its excellent games, excellent graphics, hard drive, dvd player. The only reason they brought their PS2 was because of GTA3, half of em are flogging em off cheap due to the fact of the PS2's not as good graphics and has not many games that come of intrest to them. They did'nt want to pay extra for the hard drive coming out for it and the modem.
I say XBOX online will be a winner when it comes to playing games online.
I say XBOX online will be a winner when it comes to playing games online.
Ok, We all have different opinions about consoles. I beleive it just depends on what games you are intrested in. I prefer the games on the XBOX (and many more upcoming ones) then to the Gamecube, because the gamecubes games are'nt really very appealing to me due to its mainly colorful, happy games like Mario sunshine and Luigis Mansion ect.
I prefer the more Hardcore realistic/fun games on the xbox. That it just my opinion though
I prefer the more Hardcore realistic/fun games on the xbox. That it just my opinion though
garbe123 wrote:
> Perfecting gameplay will be an art by christmas
They haven't made perfect games in the 22 years I've been playing games. I can't see it happening in the next 6 months!
> Perfecting gameplay will be an art by christmas
They haven't made perfect games in the 22 years I've been playing games. I can't see it happening in the next 6 months!
Strafex wrote:
> Got a Gamecube? Not heard your impressions on that yet.
I like it. Had more fun with it than the Xbox so far!
> The survival horror wil be more or less owned by the GC in the form of
> Resident Evil and Eternal Darkness.
I'm *really* looking forward to Resi, but I don't agree with the 'survival horror owned by GC' bit - you're forgetting the genre titles due on PS2, for a start: Resi Online, Run Like Hell, Devil May Cry etc., not to mention the Silent Hill titles on PS2 and Xbox.
> Still, that might not affect PS2 and Xbox sales because the GC's so
> cheap, many gamers are planning on getting one AS WELL as their PS2
> and/or Xbox.
I think that is what will keep GC going, possibly more than anything else.
> Got a Gamecube? Not heard your impressions on that yet.
I like it. Had more fun with it than the Xbox so far!
> The survival horror wil be more or less owned by the GC in the form of
> Resident Evil and Eternal Darkness.
I'm *really* looking forward to Resi, but I don't agree with the 'survival horror owned by GC' bit - you're forgetting the genre titles due on PS2, for a start: Resi Online, Run Like Hell, Devil May Cry etc., not to mention the Silent Hill titles on PS2 and Xbox.
> Still, that might not affect PS2 and Xbox sales because the GC's so
> cheap, many gamers are planning on getting one AS WELL as their PS2
> and/or Xbox.
I think that is what will keep GC going, possibly more than anything else.
So far Splinter Cell has looked truly fantastic, Ghost Recon is another Tom Clancy game that I will be getting for my Xbox. Rainbow Six never really impressed me but these 2 Tom Clancy titles will be definatley on my wish list.
Gameplay is a very important key but I feel that amazing graphics also is a very important key for me when choosing a game. This is one of the reasons why I got an Xbox because the graphics are brilliant on most of the titles. Perfecting gameplay will be an art by christmas time and you will see some of the greatest games ever taking shape, mark my words.
Gameplay is a very important key but I feel that amazing graphics also is a very important key for me when choosing a game. This is one of the reasons why I got an Xbox because the graphics are brilliant on most of the titles. Perfecting gameplay will be an art by christmas time and you will see some of the greatest games ever taking shape, mark my words.
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
>And I also have a Gamecube
Got a Gamecube? Not heard your impressions on that yet.
Anyway, who will have the brightest Christmas depends on who you ask.
Most in this forum will say Xbox, Wookiee will most likely say PS2.
Myself, being a sort of biased Ninty think things look bright on the Gamecube (and that's not JUST Mario Sunshines graphics! :-D).
By the time Christmas comes, the GC might be as cheap as 100 quid.
What's more, a VERY strong release schedule from September onwards will provide the machine with AAA hardhitters in almost every genre.
The survival horror wil be more or less owned by the GC in the form of Resident Evil and Eternal Darkness. Adventures like Mario and Starfox will breath new life into the franchises.
Turok (multiformat, I know), Die Hard and Metroid will will light up the FPS genre not to mention plenty of fan-attracting Starwars games.
Still, that might not affect PS2 and Xbox sales because the GC's so cheap, many gamers are planning on getting one AS WELL as their PS2 and/or Xbox.
>And I also have a Gamecube
Got a Gamecube? Not heard your impressions on that yet.
Anyway, who will have the brightest Christmas depends on who you ask.
Most in this forum will say Xbox, Wookiee will most likely say PS2.
Myself, being a sort of biased Ninty think things look bright on the Gamecube (and that's not JUST Mario Sunshines graphics! :-D).
By the time Christmas comes, the GC might be as cheap as 100 quid.
What's more, a VERY strong release schedule from September onwards will provide the machine with AAA hardhitters in almost every genre.
The survival horror wil be more or less owned by the GC in the form of Resident Evil and Eternal Darkness. Adventures like Mario and Starfox will breath new life into the franchises.
Turok (multiformat, I know), Die Hard and Metroid will will light up the FPS genre not to mention plenty of fan-attracting Starwars games.
Still, that might not affect PS2 and Xbox sales because the GC's so cheap, many gamers are planning on getting one AS WELL as their PS2 and/or Xbox.
garbe123 wrote:
> I said this to you in the PS2 forum about a month a go, the PS2 can
> not bring anything better into the graphics side of the game as it is
> not powerful enough
So you place graphics over gameplay? Granted, the PS2 version does not currently look as good as the Xbox version, and may never do - but the gameplay is enhanced, and a two-player mode has been added. Having said that, I don't rate the game and won't be buying the PS2 version either!
> As for what you said about the PS2, I feel totally the opposite.
That's fair enough - we're obviously looking for different things.
> Although you are not happy with the launch I am sure that by christmas
> you will be back in here telling me that I was right!
Well, let's hope you are correct!
> Will you be getting Splinter Cell?
Unknown at the moment - I've never bothered with any of the others in the Tom Clancy series. But I am keeping an eye on Third Echelon, among a couple of others.
> I said this to you in the PS2 forum about a month a go, the PS2 can
> not bring anything better into the graphics side of the game as it is
> not powerful enough
So you place graphics over gameplay? Granted, the PS2 version does not currently look as good as the Xbox version, and may never do - but the gameplay is enhanced, and a two-player mode has been added. Having said that, I don't rate the game and won't be buying the PS2 version either!
> As for what you said about the PS2, I feel totally the opposite.
That's fair enough - we're obviously looking for different things.
> Although you are not happy with the launch I am sure that by christmas
> you will be back in here telling me that I was right!
Well, let's hope you are correct!
> Will you be getting Splinter Cell?
Unknown at the moment - I've never bothered with any of the others in the Tom Clancy series. But I am keeping an eye on Third Echelon, among a couple of others.
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