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Religion
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Religion isn't going anywhere. Science is. Over time, science will either prove religion to be accurate or otherwise. Ipso Facto, the answers to the questions such as the origin of mankind can be suggested by either side today, but will only ever be PROVEN by science.
Evolution.
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Who cares? Even if the evolution theory is correct, you'll be long dead before anyone can show you evolution in motion. It's a process which takes millions of years. Tens of thousands of your life spans. Science can offer no more accurate answer, and religion's alternate is there if you want it. Take one or the other and shut up.
Miracles
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Any fool who's done statistics in maths can tell you that very few things are impossible, improbable perhaps, but not beyond the realms of possibility. Someone gets 2millions volts thrown through his body, falls down a cliff, only to be knocked down by a car, found rolling down a hill, over an edge into rocky, shark infested waters, and is then washed up three days later - alive. This isn't a miracle, it's just being magnificently lucky, since for each of those accidents, there is a chance of survival, so surely basic maths dictates that there is a chance that you can survive them all in succession. If anything that wasn't likely instantly became impossible, imagine what a foolish endeavor playing the national lottery would be - you know you can never win, but you play anyway. How stupid?
That's all for now, I shall continue my lessons in "common sense from given knowns to combat hysteria" later.
People arguing science is correct - you are wrong, since much of what science dictates is conjecture, hypothesis, and not proven.
People arguing that religion is correct - you are wrong, since much of what religion dictates i open to interpretation to offer answers to anything, offers little actual fact, on the basis you accept it's "truths" on faith, and were for the most part written up in an age where the only thing divine was the degree of human ignorance.
Have a nice day.
IB
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Religion isn't going anywhere. Science is. Over time, science will either prove religion to be accurate or otherwise. Ipso Facto, the answers to the questions such as the origin of mankind can be suggested by either side today, but will only ever be PROVEN by science.
Evolution.
============
Who cares? Even if the evolution theory is correct, you'll be long dead before anyone can show you evolution in motion. It's a process which takes millions of years. Tens of thousands of your life spans. Science can offer no more accurate answer, and religion's alternate is there if you want it. Take one or the other and shut up.
Miracles
============
Any fool who's done statistics in maths can tell you that very few things are impossible, improbable perhaps, but not beyond the realms of possibility. Someone gets 2millions volts thrown through his body, falls down a cliff, only to be knocked down by a car, found rolling down a hill, over an edge into rocky, shark infested waters, and is then washed up three days later - alive. This isn't a miracle, it's just being magnificently lucky, since for each of those accidents, there is a chance of survival, so surely basic maths dictates that there is a chance that you can survive them all in succession. If anything that wasn't likely instantly became impossible, imagine what a foolish endeavor playing the national lottery would be - you know you can never win, but you play anyway. How stupid?
That's all for now, I shall continue my lessons in "common sense from given knowns to combat hysteria" later.
People arguing science is correct - you are wrong, since much of what science dictates is conjecture, hypothesis, and not proven.
People arguing that religion is correct - you are wrong, since much of what religion dictates i open to interpretation to offer answers to anything, offers little actual fact, on the basis you accept it's "truths" on faith, and were for the most part written up in an age where the only thing divine was the degree of human ignorance.
Have a nice day.
IB
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nh wrote:
> Grix Thraves wrote:
> Show me anyone that has a perfect life and then turns to alcoholism
>
>
> Show me someone with a perfect life full stop !
Hello! I'm great, me!
> Grix Thraves wrote:
> Show me anyone that has a perfect life and then turns to alcoholism
>
>
> Show me someone with a perfect life full stop !
Hello! I'm great, me!
nh, meet Bill Gates. Bill, this is nh...
Grix Thraves wrote:
Show me anyone that has a perfect life and then turns to alcoholism
Show me someone with a perfect life full stop !
Show me anyone that has a perfect life and then turns to alcoholism
Show me someone with a perfect life full stop !
Grix Thraves wrote:
Show me anyone that has a perfect life and then turns to alcoholism
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Good point, a person doesn't just think "I know, my life is SO perfect I'll just take up heavy drinking"
Read in the paper the other day that this girl was an alcoholic for 10 years, since she was 14. She guzzle vodka in her room, just because she didn't like who she was when she was sober. She became dependant on being drunk... sad
Show me anyone that has a perfect life and then turns to alcoholism
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Good point, a person doesn't just think "I know, my life is SO perfect I'll just take up heavy drinking"
Read in the paper the other day that this girl was an alcoholic for 10 years, since she was 14. She guzzle vodka in her room, just because she didn't like who she was when she was sober. She became dependant on being drunk... sad
Some very good points there hooplah - and thanks for bringing it back onto suject.
I wouldn't say that the these topics are folly ridden as some of the debates that have been started have actually been quite interesting to read through. The good thing about some of these debates is that generally people have been open minded which is always a good thing.
The only folly as you said is earlier is that none of us really know the answers to any of these topics, we all have our own opinions and theories and that is as far as most of it can go.
I wouldn't say that the these topics are folly ridden as some of the debates that have been started have actually been quite interesting to read through. The good thing about some of these debates is that generally people have been open minded which is always a good thing.
The only folly as you said is earlier is that none of us really know the answers to any of these topics, we all have our own opinions and theories and that is as far as most of it can go.
Here endeth the lesson
Science is not incorrect, but more of an excellent approximation of what might be right. Any theory can be disproved with one calculation, but if that calculation takes us further towards the unequivocal truth, then what's wrong with that??
Stubborn insistence that we are at the pinnacle of scientific understanding is the only enemy here. Science is all about asking the right questions, eventually that question will be answered. What ever that answer is, at least it will be the truth.
Religion gives you an answer; Faith. Nothing has to be proven, it's all belief.
If religion was a scientific theory it would have been quashed along with the premise that the world is flat. Science and Religion cannot be compared, it is pointless to try and do so, on any level.
Interestingly, as a Scientist I would accept that God exists if it was proven to me. I wonder how many religious people would be the same if Science found 'the answer' a little less to their liking??
Twunt, what a good word. ;0)
Alcohol affects the nervous system, causing depression and anxiety. The catch 22 of drinking when depressed, is that it makes you more depressed. It is an addiction, and therefore considered an illness.
Stubborn insistence that we are at the pinnacle of scientific understanding is the only enemy here. Science is all about asking the right questions, eventually that question will be answered. What ever that answer is, at least it will be the truth.
Religion gives you an answer; Faith. Nothing has to be proven, it's all belief.
If religion was a scientific theory it would have been quashed along with the premise that the world is flat. Science and Religion cannot be compared, it is pointless to try and do so, on any level.
Interestingly, as a Scientist I would accept that God exists if it was proven to me. I wonder how many religious people would be the same if Science found 'the answer' a little less to their liking??
Twunt, what a good word. ;0)
Alcohol affects the nervous system, causing depression and anxiety. The catch 22 of drinking when depressed, is that it makes you more depressed. It is an addiction, and therefore considered an illness.
nh wrote:
> SHEEPY wrote:
> It's not a disease you twunt
>
> Alright - Illness you double twunt !!
I'm not having a good day - my brain is about thirty seconds behind me fingers.
Apart from just then..
> SHEEPY wrote:
> It's not a disease you twunt
>
> Alright - Illness you double twunt !!
I'm not having a good day - my brain is about thirty seconds behind me fingers.
Apart from just then..
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Alcoholism is a mental affliction usually brought on by depression.
It also works the other way - Depression can be brought on by Alcoholism
> Alcoholism is a mental affliction usually brought on by depression.
It also works the other way - Depression can be brought on by Alcoholism
SHEEPY wrote:
> It's not a disease you twunt
Alright - Illness you double twunt !!
> It's not a disease you twunt
Alright - Illness you double twunt !!
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