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Ok this is a rant.
I haven't done one in an age and I've had enough of the multitude of crap we men take from women.
This isn't connected to anything else other than 2 weeks of realising what an utter wa##er I've been putting up with almost 3 years of subserviant crap for the sake of "a relationship".
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Women. Suck.
Really, they are emotionally immature, insecure, games playing, confused creatures.
And I've had enough of it.
I've had enough of not saying "No, I'm not happy about that" in case it upsets her.
I'm sick of the games they play and the little wounded routine when they know they're in the wrong but wont admit it.
I'm sick of them avoiding straight questions and saying "You don't understand" or "It doesn't matter"
IT DOES BLOODY MATTER
Don't just sit there and say "Nothing" when we ask you what's wrong.
Tell us. We are not f###ing psychics, we are not channels for your mind-messages.
T-E-L-L U-S.
That's all you have to do, it will save hours of frosty looks and it will save us wondering what we've done wrong.
That is childish.
I'm sick of seeing nice blokes, blokes that would go to the other end of the world if you asked, getting ignored/dumped/mistreated because you decide we must take a part in whatever sshite little emotional play you want to stage this week.
Get this for an example of why I have had enough of "being considerate" and "being understanding" and "being a nice guy".
I got dumped after 3 years.
She tells me, one Sunday afternoon that "this isn't working anymore"
Isn't it? Since when? How about letting me f###ing know at the time?
Eh?
So I,stupid boy that I am, spend days being upset and depressed and miserable, trying to convince her she's made a bad mistake and to please reconsider.
"It took me ages to reach this decision, I can't just change my mind like that".
Ok.
So I deal with it.
But because I'm such a nice f###ing guy, I dont get angry at her. I dont shout and scream, I dont tell her exactly what I think of how she's treated me.
Becuase all the while I'm still being "Mr Considerate"
Until it hits me:
You know what, this was your choice "babe", and I've got nothing to feel guilty about. I've not done anything or decided it's over.
You did.
And I let it go, I stopped hurling myself against her indifference in an attempt to get her to take me back.
I even agree with that whole "We'll still be friends" lie you both tell at the end.
And what happens?
I get a phone call, tearful, saying "I made a mistake"
Well guess what baby?
You made the biggest f####ing mistake of your life, because I dont want to come back.
Not after this.
How do I know you wouldn't decide to do that again and place me in the same emotional state on a whim?
F### that, I've got too much self respect to allow myself to be treated like that.
Take your "mistake" and your "This isnt working anymore" and jam it up your backside.
Because there was a time when I would drive over at 3am because you were upset about something, even though it meant I got no sleep and had to leave at 7am to get to work.
But that was before you decided "It wasn't working"
And when you told me you had to take a pay-cut because work was slow, I didnt offer to rush over and comfort you did I?
No
And do you know why? Because "It wasn't working"
Except when you get down and you need someone to tell you it'll be ok?
It seems to work pretty well just then eh?
Well let's take a long cold hard look at this world:
You dump a guy that worshipped the ground you walked on. A guy that would have done anything you asked.
And you act surprised when he doesn't say "Awww that's terrible" when you have woes.
Because where the f### were you when he needed comforting?
He always had to ask you to hold him?
Yeah, like I'll put myself in that position again.
No more Mr Sensitive.
No more Mr Do-anything-you-ask
I'm going to do exactly what I want, when I want.
Because I tried it the other way and I got f###ed.
Jokes on you woman, because now I tell you "You're right, this isn't working", you change your mind?
Tough.
You feel scared and want to be held because you approach financial difficulty?
Tough.
Phone someone that cares "baby"
Talk to someone you didn't destroy 2 weeks ago.
I gave you the chance to have what you now miss, and you didnt want it because you thought "it was best".
Well it was your choice, deal with it like a grown-up.
I've shed my last tear for women.
I've spent my last effort trying to reason with a species that plays games, leads you on, doesn't say what it means.
"We are a generation of men raised by women, I'm thinking is another woman really what we need?" - Fight Club.
I haven't done one in an age and I've had enough of the multitude of crap we men take from women.
This isn't connected to anything else other than 2 weeks of realising what an utter wa##er I've been putting up with almost 3 years of subserviant crap for the sake of "a relationship".
---
Women. Suck.
Really, they are emotionally immature, insecure, games playing, confused creatures.
And I've had enough of it.
I've had enough of not saying "No, I'm not happy about that" in case it upsets her.
I'm sick of the games they play and the little wounded routine when they know they're in the wrong but wont admit it.
I'm sick of them avoiding straight questions and saying "You don't understand" or "It doesn't matter"
IT DOES BLOODY MATTER
Don't just sit there and say "Nothing" when we ask you what's wrong.
Tell us. We are not f###ing psychics, we are not channels for your mind-messages.
T-E-L-L U-S.
That's all you have to do, it will save hours of frosty looks and it will save us wondering what we've done wrong.
That is childish.
I'm sick of seeing nice blokes, blokes that would go to the other end of the world if you asked, getting ignored/dumped/mistreated because you decide we must take a part in whatever sshite little emotional play you want to stage this week.
Get this for an example of why I have had enough of "being considerate" and "being understanding" and "being a nice guy".
I got dumped after 3 years.
She tells me, one Sunday afternoon that "this isn't working anymore"
Isn't it? Since when? How about letting me f###ing know at the time?
Eh?
So I,stupid boy that I am, spend days being upset and depressed and miserable, trying to convince her she's made a bad mistake and to please reconsider.
"It took me ages to reach this decision, I can't just change my mind like that".
Ok.
So I deal with it.
But because I'm such a nice f###ing guy, I dont get angry at her. I dont shout and scream, I dont tell her exactly what I think of how she's treated me.
Becuase all the while I'm still being "Mr Considerate"
Until it hits me:
You know what, this was your choice "babe", and I've got nothing to feel guilty about. I've not done anything or decided it's over.
You did.
And I let it go, I stopped hurling myself against her indifference in an attempt to get her to take me back.
I even agree with that whole "We'll still be friends" lie you both tell at the end.
And what happens?
I get a phone call, tearful, saying "I made a mistake"
Well guess what baby?
You made the biggest f####ing mistake of your life, because I dont want to come back.
Not after this.
How do I know you wouldn't decide to do that again and place me in the same emotional state on a whim?
F### that, I've got too much self respect to allow myself to be treated like that.
Take your "mistake" and your "This isnt working anymore" and jam it up your backside.
Because there was a time when I would drive over at 3am because you were upset about something, even though it meant I got no sleep and had to leave at 7am to get to work.
But that was before you decided "It wasn't working"
And when you told me you had to take a pay-cut because work was slow, I didnt offer to rush over and comfort you did I?
No
And do you know why? Because "It wasn't working"
Except when you get down and you need someone to tell you it'll be ok?
It seems to work pretty well just then eh?
Well let's take a long cold hard look at this world:
You dump a guy that worshipped the ground you walked on. A guy that would have done anything you asked.
And you act surprised when he doesn't say "Awww that's terrible" when you have woes.
Because where the f### were you when he needed comforting?
He always had to ask you to hold him?
Yeah, like I'll put myself in that position again.
No more Mr Sensitive.
No more Mr Do-anything-you-ask
I'm going to do exactly what I want, when I want.
Because I tried it the other way and I got f###ed.
Jokes on you woman, because now I tell you "You're right, this isn't working", you change your mind?
Tough.
You feel scared and want to be held because you approach financial difficulty?
Tough.
Phone someone that cares "baby"
Talk to someone you didn't destroy 2 weeks ago.
I gave you the chance to have what you now miss, and you didnt want it because you thought "it was best".
Well it was your choice, deal with it like a grown-up.
I've shed my last tear for women.
I've spent my last effort trying to reason with a species that plays games, leads you on, doesn't say what it means.
"We are a generation of men raised by women, I'm thinking is another woman really what we need?" - Fight Club.
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Mmmmm... ok, you're probably right. I'll keep out of here for a while.
At the risk of saying that which has already been said, I applaud Goatboy for his decision, especially turning her down when she came back crying.
I've been there, and I've taken the woman back, and it's the most pitifully stupid thing you can ever hope to achieve. As soon as you do that, as soon as you let her back in, she knows that she owns you, hook line and sinker. After that, she can tug you every which way but loose, and you can't stop it. After not being able to refuse the woman that came crying back to me, I got stuck with her for almost another two years - two years where I hated myself, and couldn't stand HER, but never had the capacity to end it.
Now, if any girl says to me "I'm leaving you", I'll help her out the door.
However, I do concede that not all girls are like that, not all of them want to play mind games until they break you down. There are women out there prepared to take people at face value, and if you can find one, consider yourself a very lucky man.
IB
I've been there, and I've taken the woman back, and it's the most pitifully stupid thing you can ever hope to achieve. As soon as you do that, as soon as you let her back in, she knows that she owns you, hook line and sinker. After that, she can tug you every which way but loose, and you can't stop it. After not being able to refuse the woman that came crying back to me, I got stuck with her for almost another two years - two years where I hated myself, and couldn't stand HER, but never had the capacity to end it.
Now, if any girl says to me "I'm leaving you", I'll help her out the door.
However, I do concede that not all girls are like that, not all of them want to play mind games until they break you down. There are women out there prepared to take people at face value, and if you can find one, consider yourself a very lucky man.
IB
Maybe no-one should write anything for a while until everything has calmed down. Otherwise people will fall out.
Personally I don't understand the people who replied to this and with "LOL" but then I don't think they understood in the first place. And it probably doesn't matter if anyone understands as long as whatever's been written gets things straight in your own mind. Most of the time that's what I write for, as a release and so my head clears a little. And I won't pretend to understand what it's like to lose someone important because I haven't.
Perhaps all the fighting is just trying to communicate. Someone said this once and it seems appropriate to me..
'It is a lonely idea, a lonely condition, so terrifying to think of that we usually don't. And so we talk to each other, write and wire each other, call each other short and long distance across land and sea, clasp hands with each other at meeting and at parting, fight each other and even destroy each other because of this always somewhat thwarted effort to break through walls to each other. As a character in a play once said, "We're all of us sentenced to solitary confinement inside our own skins."'
Personally I don't understand the people who replied to this and with "LOL" but then I don't think they understood in the first place. And it probably doesn't matter if anyone understands as long as whatever's been written gets things straight in your own mind. Most of the time that's what I write for, as a release and so my head clears a little. And I won't pretend to understand what it's like to lose someone important because I haven't.
Perhaps all the fighting is just trying to communicate. Someone said this once and it seems appropriate to me..
'It is a lonely idea, a lonely condition, so terrifying to think of that we usually don't. And so we talk to each other, write and wire each other, call each other short and long distance across land and sea, clasp hands with each other at meeting and at parting, fight each other and even destroy each other because of this always somewhat thwarted effort to break through walls to each other. As a character in a play once said, "We're all of us sentenced to solitary confinement inside our own skins."'
Lord H wrote:
> Read my comment just after.
>
> I found it funny, you know, something that makes you laugh?
Thats the trouble when you post when you're working, you start to reply, the phone rings, you post and three other people have got in - hey ho.
> Read my comment just after.
>
> I found it funny, you know, something that makes you laugh?
Thats the trouble when you post when you're working, you start to reply, the phone rings, you post and three other people have got in - hey ho.
Problem is, it doesn't matter what the hell I say, because you're only going to judge me by what you believe.
Hey man, I love you, don't get me wrong here, but it jus**t seems to me like you're looking for answers and clinging onto whatever appears firs**t. Shame on me for trying to analyse you, but hey, you did it firs**t. You presummed that all my sh*t was over a woman, and not only that, but laid into her too about it. I don't think that was exactly very nice, especially considering you were only laying into her because you've been funned recently, or so I presume. :0)
Look, I don't know your full s**tory, and I don't think you know mine. I write, because I love doing it, and I find it fun. The only thing I've learned is to keep an open mind, and that's all I'm asking for you to do too.
Pretty macho of you to come online and vent all your problems in the day to a seventeen year old kid and then run off to escape with mates before even asking if that boys feeling alright though, isn't it? Because we're all so damn perfect, aren't we.
Hey man, I love you, don't get me wrong here, but it jus**t seems to me like you're looking for answers and clinging onto whatever appears firs**t. Shame on me for trying to analyse you, but hey, you did it firs**t. You presummed that all my sh*t was over a woman, and not only that, but laid into her too about it. I don't think that was exactly very nice, especially considering you were only laying into her because you've been funned recently, or so I presume. :0)
Look, I don't know your full s**tory, and I don't think you know mine. I write, because I love doing it, and I find it fun. The only thing I've learned is to keep an open mind, and that's all I'm asking for you to do too.
Pretty macho of you to come online and vent all your problems in the day to a seventeen year old kid and then run off to escape with mates before even asking if that boys feeling alright though, isn't it? Because we're all so damn perfect, aren't we.
Read my comment just after.
I found it funny, you know, something that makes you laugh?
I found it funny, you know, something that makes you laugh?
Lord H wrote:
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> heh.....cool!
No it's not cool - shut up and go away.. Fool..
>
> heh.....cool!
No it's not cool - shut up and go away.. Fool..
Of course I am mate, of course.
I'm a grown-up doing the usual break-up rubbish, but instead of getting drunk and punching something, I write crap here.
But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter apart from the times I get wound up and have to write something.
I don't pull in others to "assist" me in my goals, and I'm still fuming since I found out I got played in a little game between 3 others.
I deal with my life by myself and it always works out.
Don't involve me in your nonsense and then patronise me over something I write that is completely non-related to anyone here.
If I want "advice", I'll ask for it.
I'm a grown-up doing the usual break-up rubbish, but instead of getting drunk and punching something, I write crap here.
But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter apart from the times I get wound up and have to write something.
I don't pull in others to "assist" me in my goals, and I'm still fuming since I found out I got played in a little game between 3 others.
I deal with my life by myself and it always works out.
Don't involve me in your nonsense and then patronise me over something I write that is completely non-related to anyone here.
If I want "advice", I'll ask for it.
OK Your Honour.....
It just struck me as funny :-)
It just struck me as funny :-)
Lord H wrote:
> heh.....cool!
Shut up, you idiot.
> heh.....cool!
Shut up, you idiot.
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