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Sun 23/06/02 at 01:28
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Ok this is a rant.
I haven't done one in an age and I've had enough of the multitude of crap we men take from women.
This isn't connected to anything else other than 2 weeks of realising what an utter wa##er I've been putting up with almost 3 years of subserviant crap for the sake of "a relationship".

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Women. Suck.
Really, they are emotionally immature, insecure, games playing, confused creatures.
And I've had enough of it.
I've had enough of not saying "No, I'm not happy about that" in case it upsets her.
I'm sick of the games they play and the little wounded routine when they know they're in the wrong but wont admit it.
I'm sick of them avoiding straight questions and saying "You don't understand" or "It doesn't matter"
IT DOES BLOODY MATTER
Don't just sit there and say "Nothing" when we ask you what's wrong.
Tell us. We are not f###ing psychics, we are not channels for your mind-messages.
T-E-L-L U-S.
That's all you have to do, it will save hours of frosty looks and it will save us wondering what we've done wrong.
That is childish.

I'm sick of seeing nice blokes, blokes that would go to the other end of the world if you asked, getting ignored/dumped/mistreated because you decide we must take a part in whatever sshite little emotional play you want to stage this week.

Get this for an example of why I have had enough of "being considerate" and "being understanding" and "being a nice guy".
I got dumped after 3 years.
She tells me, one Sunday afternoon that "this isn't working anymore"
Isn't it? Since when? How about letting me f###ing know at the time?
Eh?
So I,stupid boy that I am, spend days being upset and depressed and miserable, trying to convince her she's made a bad mistake and to please reconsider.
"It took me ages to reach this decision, I can't just change my mind like that".
Ok.
So I deal with it.
But because I'm such a nice f###ing guy, I dont get angry at her. I dont shout and scream, I dont tell her exactly what I think of how she's treated me.
Becuase all the while I'm still being "Mr Considerate"

Until it hits me:
You know what, this was your choice "babe", and I've got nothing to feel guilty about. I've not done anything or decided it's over.
You did.
And I let it go, I stopped hurling myself against her indifference in an attempt to get her to take me back.
I even agree with that whole "We'll still be friends" lie you both tell at the end.
And what happens?
I get a phone call, tearful, saying "I made a mistake"
Well guess what baby?
You made the biggest f####ing mistake of your life, because I dont want to come back.
Not after this.
How do I know you wouldn't decide to do that again and place me in the same emotional state on a whim?

F### that, I've got too much self respect to allow myself to be treated like that.
Take your "mistake" and your "This isnt working anymore" and jam it up your backside.

Because there was a time when I would drive over at 3am because you were upset about something, even though it meant I got no sleep and had to leave at 7am to get to work.
But that was before you decided "It wasn't working"
And when you told me you had to take a pay-cut because work was slow, I didnt offer to rush over and comfort you did I?
No
And do you know why? Because "It wasn't working"
Except when you get down and you need someone to tell you it'll be ok?
It seems to work pretty well just then eh?

Well let's take a long cold hard look at this world:
You dump a guy that worshipped the ground you walked on. A guy that would have done anything you asked.
And you act surprised when he doesn't say "Awww that's terrible" when you have woes.
Because where the f### were you when he needed comforting?
He always had to ask you to hold him?

Yeah, like I'll put myself in that position again.
No more Mr Sensitive.
No more Mr Do-anything-you-ask

I'm going to do exactly what I want, when I want.
Because I tried it the other way and I got f###ed.

Jokes on you woman, because now I tell you "You're right, this isn't working", you change your mind?
Tough.
You feel scared and want to be held because you approach financial difficulty?
Tough.
Phone someone that cares "baby"
Talk to someone you didn't destroy 2 weeks ago.

I gave you the chance to have what you now miss, and you didnt want it because you thought "it was best".
Well it was your choice, deal with it like a grown-up.
I've shed my last tear for women.
I've spent my last effort trying to reason with a species that plays games, leads you on, doesn't say what it means.

"We are a generation of men raised by women, I'm thinking is another woman really what we need?" - Fight Club.
Mon 24/06/02 at 16:15
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
i think it's as much to do with the fact that words often don't come across as you intend when you're not speaking them aloud as anything else...
Mon 24/06/02 at 16:14
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Nope, I'm a mouthy get in real life as well.
Mon 24/06/02 at 16:13
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"Excommunicated"
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Funny how when you meet people face to face they're never so emotional... bet if you knew each other you'd have a fight then a pint and say about two words.... vhat a straaange vorld ve live in
Mon 24/06/02 at 16:10
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Goatboy wrote:
> Yeah? Cool.
>
> I went out for drinks yesterday with a Bisexual woman, and whilst I
> would normally just call that greedy - I strangely didnt mind at all.

Funny thing was, she was an unmovable lesbian when I met her, by the time I was done, she was officially (and admittedly) "sexually confused".

If ever there was anything to make you feel good about yourself, that's it right there. After months of near suicide, I found my path back to humanity by leading others from their own. Made me a vindictive person for a while, with a powerfully intelligent double edged sense of humour, but I've calmed down a lot in the last 2 years. "Nothing really matters".

IB
Mon 24/06/02 at 16:03
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Mon 24/06/02 at 15:56
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Yeah? Cool.

I went out for drinks yesterday with a Bisexual woman, and whilst I would normally just call that greedy - I strangely didnt mind at all.
Mon 24/06/02 at 15:49
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
I know the feeling. At the lowest point in my life, the only female I would go near was a lesbian.

Interestingly enough, I had a relationship of sorts with her...
Mon 24/06/02 at 15:46
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Insane Bartender wrote:

> However, I do concede that not all girls are like that, not all of
> them want to play mind games until they break you down. There are
> women out there prepared to take people at face value, and if you can
> find one, consider yourself a very lucky man.
>
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Hell yes.
My original post was written after a very long and emotional day.
It's just the "f##k you and f### your stupid head" type of post that I dont say to her face because I'm not like that.

It's not all women, but it was when I wrote that.
Mon 24/06/02 at 15:44
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Grix Thraves wrote:
You presummed that all my sh*t was over a woman, and not only
> that, but laid into her too about it.
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No I didn't. I asked her what the hell was going on because I was concerned about that "I'm offing myself" pos**t you put.
And was met with waffly crap.
Said I wasn't interes**ted in people playing games and logged off.
Really, I've got better things to do with my time than discuss the personal problems of 14yr old.
And then get "told" by the other bloke to watch what I say?
Sorry?
I didn't ask to be pulled into this and now I'm being lectured by children as to what I should and shouldn't say?

> Pretty macho of you to come online and vent all your problems in the
> day to a seventeen year old kid and then run off to escape with mates
> before even asking if that boys feeling alright though, isn't it?
> Because we're all so damn perfect, aren't we.

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I'm not perfect, but I deal with my problems how I deal with them. By writing rubbish and forgetting about it.
I never presume to tell you what to do,I only comment on the writings.
And to be hones**t, from what I've been told about your situation, I wouldn't want to.
Because it's none of my business.
In future mate, don't jus**t casually sugges**t I sing your praises without telling me why.

I don't appreciate being played.
Mon 24/06/02 at 15:43
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Posts: 23,216
Agree completely with IB.

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