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I'm a Nintendo fan... always will be, but I'm also a big SEGA fan.
When the news that SEGA would ditch the Dreamcast and become a third party developer surfaced, I for one was absolutely gutted. Having devoted my life to SEGA in the past (the Mega Drive and Dreamcast in particular), the thought of games like Sonic, Jet Set Radio etc appearing on the PlayStation 2 and XBox (I love Nintendo and Gamecube so I'm not bothered about that) was almost insufferable.
But, how do SEGA decide which games to release on which consoles?
As far as I know, the following SEGA games have appeared on these consoles:
PlayStation 2:
- Headhunter
- Rez
- Virtua Fighter 4
XBox:
- Jet Set Radio Future
- Shenmue series (dunno if it's been released yet)
Gamecube:
- 18 Wheeler: Pro American Trucker (also on PS2, I think)
- Crazy Taxi (also on PS2)
- Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
- Super Monkey Ball
- Virtua Striker 3 ver 2002 (at least I think it's called ver 2002)
OK... so how did SEGA decide which games should make their way to which consoles? First of all, which games are classified as "good"?
- 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker (bad)
- Crazy Taxi (said to be dodgy, but good in my opinion)
- Headhunter (good)
- Jet Set Radio Future (good)
- Rez (good)
- Shenmue (said to be good, but crap in my opinion)
- Sonic Adventure 2: Battle (said to be dodgy, but good in my opinion)
- Super Monkey Ball (good)
- Virtua Fighter 4 (good)
- Virtua Striker 3 (bad)
So Gamecube owners get the only original concept (with the other games having had previous versions on SEGA consoles), which is great... and Super Monkey Ball is indeed a fantastic game. But then what do we get? SA2: Battle, which has been deemed as average, ditto Crazy Taxi and the apparently abysmal Virtua Striker 3.
But what I would have loved to have seen would be Jet Set Radio Future, Headhunter, Virtua Fighter 4 (the versions of those on the Dreamcast are amazing!) and Rez (which looks like a fun game) on the Gamecube. So why didn't we see those games on the Gamecube?
My theory is that Sony and Microsoft have experienced problems shifting enough consoles to make the amount of money that they'd like. Indeed, with Microsoft being the most money-hungry company ever plonked down on this Earth, this is probably true... and that theory is backed up by the X-Box's crap launch day, and the fact that the X-Box is fairing pretty abysmally over in Japan as well. So Microsoft probably threw an ocean full of money SEGA's way in order to secure JSR Future and Shenmue (being big over in Japan and being Japanese in origin) on the x-Box in an attempt to shift more than 5 units over in Japan over the next 6 months. Admittedly, Shenmue is dodgy in my opinion, but nevertheless it is an EXTREMELY popular series and deemed as the best game ever by a lot of people. As for Sony... well, the PS2 launch day wasn't particularly amazing either... and although franchises like Metal Gear Solid 2 and Tekken saw the "light" of PS2, well... who cares? By securing big SEGA titles like Headhunter and Virtua Fighter, Sony have made a business move that will allow the PS2 to remain the console to own if you want to be "with it".
And what do Gamecube owners / fans get lumbered with? Well, apart from Super Monkey Ball and SA2: Battle, we get crap such as 18 Wheeler and Virtua Striker... along with Crazy Taxi, which is a good game but it's 4 years old for God's sake!
As a Nintendo fan, I also own a GBA... but the games we've seen on it have mostly been puzzle games (apart from Sonic):
- ChuChu Rocket!
- Columns Crown
- Puyo Pop
- Sonic Advance
I've played ChuChu Rocket, which was brilliant on the Dreamcast... but the GBA version was just too small and it was too hard to follow what was going on. Admittedly my somewhat limited vision doesn't help, but it's good enough to usually allow me to play on a GBA with no problems. But ChuChu Rocket was just too small and not as suited to the GBA as the Dreamcast. Columns Crown and Puyo Pop are just rehashes of Colums and Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (on the Mega Drive) and Sonic Advance, although brilliant, was just easy.
In my opinion, Nintendo fans have gotten dumped on when it comes to what SEGA games we've recieved. I'm glad I've got a Dreamcast, that's all I can say.
When the news that SEGA would ditch the Dreamcast and become a third party developer surfaced, I for one was absolutely gutted. Having devoted my life to SEGA in the past (the Mega Drive and Dreamcast in particular), the thought of games like Sonic, Jet Set Radio etc appearing on the PlayStation 2 and XBox (I love Nintendo and Gamecube so I'm not bothered about that) was almost insufferable.
But, how do SEGA decide which games to release on which consoles?
As far as I know, the following SEGA games have appeared on these consoles:
PlayStation 2:
- Headhunter
- Rez
- Virtua Fighter 4
XBox:
- Jet Set Radio Future
- Shenmue series (dunno if it's been released yet)
Gamecube:
- 18 Wheeler: Pro American Trucker (also on PS2, I think)
- Crazy Taxi (also on PS2)
- Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
- Super Monkey Ball
- Virtua Striker 3 ver 2002 (at least I think it's called ver 2002)
OK... so how did SEGA decide which games should make their way to which consoles? First of all, which games are classified as "good"?
- 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker (bad)
- Crazy Taxi (said to be dodgy, but good in my opinion)
- Headhunter (good)
- Jet Set Radio Future (good)
- Rez (good)
- Shenmue (said to be good, but crap in my opinion)
- Sonic Adventure 2: Battle (said to be dodgy, but good in my opinion)
- Super Monkey Ball (good)
- Virtua Fighter 4 (good)
- Virtua Striker 3 (bad)
So Gamecube owners get the only original concept (with the other games having had previous versions on SEGA consoles), which is great... and Super Monkey Ball is indeed a fantastic game. But then what do we get? SA2: Battle, which has been deemed as average, ditto Crazy Taxi and the apparently abysmal Virtua Striker 3.
But what I would have loved to have seen would be Jet Set Radio Future, Headhunter, Virtua Fighter 4 (the versions of those on the Dreamcast are amazing!) and Rez (which looks like a fun game) on the Gamecube. So why didn't we see those games on the Gamecube?
My theory is that Sony and Microsoft have experienced problems shifting enough consoles to make the amount of money that they'd like. Indeed, with Microsoft being the most money-hungry company ever plonked down on this Earth, this is probably true... and that theory is backed up by the X-Box's crap launch day, and the fact that the X-Box is fairing pretty abysmally over in Japan as well. So Microsoft probably threw an ocean full of money SEGA's way in order to secure JSR Future and Shenmue (being big over in Japan and being Japanese in origin) on the x-Box in an attempt to shift more than 5 units over in Japan over the next 6 months. Admittedly, Shenmue is dodgy in my opinion, but nevertheless it is an EXTREMELY popular series and deemed as the best game ever by a lot of people. As for Sony... well, the PS2 launch day wasn't particularly amazing either... and although franchises like Metal Gear Solid 2 and Tekken saw the "light" of PS2, well... who cares? By securing big SEGA titles like Headhunter and Virtua Fighter, Sony have made a business move that will allow the PS2 to remain the console to own if you want to be "with it".
And what do Gamecube owners / fans get lumbered with? Well, apart from Super Monkey Ball and SA2: Battle, we get crap such as 18 Wheeler and Virtua Striker... along with Crazy Taxi, which is a good game but it's 4 years old for God's sake!
As a Nintendo fan, I also own a GBA... but the games we've seen on it have mostly been puzzle games (apart from Sonic):
- ChuChu Rocket!
- Columns Crown
- Puyo Pop
- Sonic Advance
I've played ChuChu Rocket, which was brilliant on the Dreamcast... but the GBA version was just too small and it was too hard to follow what was going on. Admittedly my somewhat limited vision doesn't help, but it's good enough to usually allow me to play on a GBA with no problems. But ChuChu Rocket was just too small and not as suited to the GBA as the Dreamcast. Columns Crown and Puyo Pop are just rehashes of Colums and Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (on the Mega Drive) and Sonic Advance, although brilliant, was just easy.
In my opinion, Nintendo fans have gotten dumped on when it comes to what SEGA games we've recieved. I'm glad I've got a Dreamcast, that's all I can say.
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*sniggers*
Armatige Shanks wrote:
> lol... thats funny man
And totally true!!!!!
> lol... thats funny man
And totally true!!!!!
P@st@ M@st@ wrote:
> Im a bit confused by reading some of your post, SEGA are an american
> company (SErvice GAmes) that made arcade machines for the army during
> the vietnam war. They are certainly not japanese.
lol... thats funny man
> Im a bit confused by reading some of your post, SEGA are an american
> company (SErvice GAmes) that made arcade machines for the army during
> the vietnam war. They are certainly not japanese.
lol... thats funny man
Dark Mark wrote:
>
> P.S. I don't CARE how many friends you have, so there is no need for
> an answer. OK, got that? Good.
LOL
>
> P.S. I don't CARE how many friends you have, so there is no need for
> an answer. OK, got that? Good.
LOL
Im a bit confused by reading some of your post, SEGA are an american company (SErvice GAmes) that made arcade machines for the army during the vietnam war. They are certainly not japanese.
True! True!
I admittedly don't have all the facts, though I try to base opinions on facts, it's not always possible for whatever reasons at the time.
Sure, some of what Dark Mark may have said is incorrect, but we all make mistakes.
Atleast he's not like some of the people here who started off with "My favorut consul is the Play Staiton tow!" <- as a one liner.
He's new here, sure. He hasn't posted on here as much as most people, sure. But he's got more sense than a lot of people here!
I admittedly don't have all the facts, though I try to base opinions on facts, it's not always possible for whatever reasons at the time.
Sure, some of what Dark Mark may have said is incorrect, but we all make mistakes.
Atleast he's not like some of the people here who started off with "My favorut consul is the Play Staiton tow!" <- as a one liner.
He's new here, sure. He hasn't posted on here as much as most people, sure. But he's got more sense than a lot of people here!
Your Honour wrote:
> HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA!
>
> That is THE funniest post I've read in ages. So wrong in so many ways.
> People have already listed all the sega games coming to Xbox, and Xbox
> is receiving the largest number of exclusive Sega games.
>
> As for the Xbox selling crap in Japan, so what? Your beloved Sega
> MegaDrive did rubbish in Japan, completely obliterated by the SNES,
> but that didn't stop it becoming one of the most popular consoles in
> the Western world.
>
> So please, pull your head out of your @rse, or do some research at the
> very least, before you spout out this garbage.
*
Yes... quite.
Well I'm just voicing my opinion. Isn't that what this site is for? Y'see, unlike some people (and I don't think that it needs to be said that I'm looking in YOUR direction when saying this, do you?), I don't post on here simply to win games and get my hands on as much popularity as I can... even if I can't get it in real life.
How many friends do you have?
P.S. I don't CARE how many friends you have, so there is no need for an answer. OK, got that? Good.
Kiss!
> HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA!
>
> That is THE funniest post I've read in ages. So wrong in so many ways.
> People have already listed all the sega games coming to Xbox, and Xbox
> is receiving the largest number of exclusive Sega games.
>
> As for the Xbox selling crap in Japan, so what? Your beloved Sega
> MegaDrive did rubbish in Japan, completely obliterated by the SNES,
> but that didn't stop it becoming one of the most popular consoles in
> the Western world.
>
> So please, pull your head out of your @rse, or do some research at the
> very least, before you spout out this garbage.
*
Yes... quite.
Well I'm just voicing my opinion. Isn't that what this site is for? Y'see, unlike some people (and I don't think that it needs to be said that I'm looking in YOUR direction when saying this, do you?), I don't post on here simply to win games and get my hands on as much popularity as I can... even if I can't get it in real life.
How many friends do you have?
P.S. I don't CARE how many friends you have, so there is no need for an answer. OK, got that? Good.
Kiss!
Your Honour wrote:
> HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA!
>
> That is THE funniest post I've read in ages. So wrong in so many ways.
> People have already listed all the sega games coming to Xbox, and Xbox
> is receiving the largest number of exclusive Sega games.
>
> As for the Xbox selling crap in Japan, so what? Your beloved Sega
> MegaDrive did rubbish in Japan, completely obliterated by the SNES,
> but that didn't stop it becoming one of the most popular consoles in
> the Western world.
>
> So please, pull your head out of your @rse, or do some research at the
> very least, before you spout out this garbage.
*
Yes... quite.
Well I'm just voicing my opinion. Isn't that what this site is for? Y'see, unlike some people (and I don't think that it needs to be said that I'm looking in YOUR direction when saying this, do you?), I don't post on here simply to games and get my hands on as much popularity as I can... even if I can't get it in real life.
How many friends do you have?
P.S. I don't CARE how many friends you have, so there is no need for an answer. OK, got that? Good.
Kiss!
> HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA!
>
> That is THE funniest post I've read in ages. So wrong in so many ways.
> People have already listed all the sega games coming to Xbox, and Xbox
> is receiving the largest number of exclusive Sega games.
>
> As for the Xbox selling crap in Japan, so what? Your beloved Sega
> MegaDrive did rubbish in Japan, completely obliterated by the SNES,
> but that didn't stop it becoming one of the most popular consoles in
> the Western world.
>
> So please, pull your head out of your @rse, or do some research at the
> very least, before you spout out this garbage.
*
Yes... quite.
Well I'm just voicing my opinion. Isn't that what this site is for? Y'see, unlike some people (and I don't think that it needs to be said that I'm looking in YOUR direction when saying this, do you?), I don't post on here simply to games and get my hands on as much popularity as I can... even if I can't get it in real life.
How many friends do you have?
P.S. I don't CARE how many friends you have, so there is no need for an answer. OK, got that? Good.
Kiss!
pop
From what I've seen, out of the 3 consoles and the GBA, its the X-Box thats getting the lions share of Sega titles. I saw Shinobi on PS2 and I was very impressed and apparently its coming to X-Box now too. Same goes for Soccer Slam on the GC, thats also on its way to X-Box along with the new volleyball game. Of course I very much doubt you'll see the first and second Crazy Taxi games on X-Box as Microsoft have already grabbed the third game so it would be pretty pointless to get the other 2 now.
But from what I can see, Microsoft are working hard to get hold of the best titles Sega are bringing out. Monkey Ball seems to be GC only but I'm not too worried about that as I played it and didn't enjoy that particular title for very long. Plus of course you won't get titles such as F-Zero as its basically a Nintendo series that Sega have been given to work on.
But the core Sega games and they're classic characters seem to be on their way to X-Box more than any other system. Sonic has just been put forward too. I like Sega's games a lot and even though I'd like to see new games, I'm happy with the news of seeing some of their classic titles as well. Its been ages since the likes of Toejam and Earl have had a run out and I'm sure games like this will be superb. Blinx certainly looks a great titles too and is going to be X-Box exclusive.
But from what I can see, Microsoft are working hard to get hold of the best titles Sega are bringing out. Monkey Ball seems to be GC only but I'm not too worried about that as I played it and didn't enjoy that particular title for very long. Plus of course you won't get titles such as F-Zero as its basically a Nintendo series that Sega have been given to work on.
But the core Sega games and they're classic characters seem to be on their way to X-Box more than any other system. Sonic has just been put forward too. I like Sega's games a lot and even though I'd like to see new games, I'm happy with the news of seeing some of their classic titles as well. Its been ages since the likes of Toejam and Earl have had a run out and I'm sure games like this will be superb. Blinx certainly looks a great titles too and is going to be X-Box exclusive.
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