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Mon 20/05/02 at 14:53
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For the past two or three years Formula one has captured my heart,
I’m sure it’s captured a lot of other hearts as well.
But during the last season I think that F1 has become an unfair sport for the drivers.
Why?

Because drivers like Michael Schumacher always from the first or second row of the grid and then he ends up getting into the lead and romping of into the distance.
Which is all very well for Michael but it’s not very fair on the other drivers.
So what could we do to make it fairer?

Well we could categorise the cars like they do in the touring cars.
Maybe they could categorise them corresponding to their engine horsepower.
But then that would effectively be making F1 into a lower form of motor sport!

So the next thing that could be done to make the competition fairer is to make a rule that all the drivers must have the same amount of horsepower in their engines.
That way the drivers would have a better chance of keeping up with the other drivers.
They could choose any make of engine but they must all have the same amount of horsepower.

This would certainly make things fairer and there would be a lot more competition.
But it just wouldn’t be the same.
So maybe they could restrict the drivers maximum lead to maybe 17 seconds or something.
But I can’t really see any of those things happening!

So maybe the FIA people are doing the right thing by helping out the smaller teams by bringing in the new one engine rule!
‘cos lets face it without the new rule the smaller teams may never get the chance to catch up with the big boys of F1.
So there lays a small glimmer of hope for the smaller teams.
Infact it may even help some of the bigger teams like Mclaren or Jaguar.
But I can’t help thinking that some of these past few races have been rigged.

There was a lot of controversy over the last race. Barrichello had won that race fair and square.
But the Ferrari Boss only went and pulled team orders just at the last corner.
Therefor letting Schumi win.
Was it just to break his Jinx? at Spain or was it for other reasons.
If it was for other reasons then I can’t think what reasons those reasons could be..
Schumi surely didn’t need the points.
It would have been real nice if the Ferrari Boys let Barrichello have some glory for a change other than letting Michael have it all.

Also I reckon half the races Michael has won.
Why?
Because it’s all very well winning four or five races but winning 8+ races seems a little bit farfetched.
Michael may be the greatest driver of all time but I think he’s starting to turn into a bit of a glory hog.
Of only Mika Hakkenin were here he’d soon show Michael who’s boss.
What Formula one needs is a complete refurbishment of the top drivers.
Maybe the younger generation could be given a chance to show there worthiness.
I very much doubt though if any of this will ever happen.
Especially as Michael Schumacher is trailing yet another championship win.

Something that could be done that would make things fairer without affecting the race itself would be to limit the amount off championships a driver can win in a row.
Maybe they could limit it to two championship wins, that way drivers like Michael would have to back down and let somebody else win the championship for a change.

I think most of the smaller teams would appreciate the chance at the championship.
But yet again I wouldn’t expect to see this happen.
So I guess the one engine rule will have to do for now.

So With the recent palaver at Spain I reckon Formula1 has entered it’s dark ages.
But there is no question about it Formula1 is one of the most popular motor sports in the world, in fact personally I’d say that F1 is the most popular sport in the world next to football.

So I raise a glass to the drivers and teams that make up my favourite sport F1.
*Raises Glass*
Here’s to Formula One!
Mon 27/05/02 at 12:34
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I just can't stand it. Perhaps all those hours spent on Grand Prix games going round Hockenheim just made me hate it so much.
Mon 27/05/02 at 12:14
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Grandprix wrote:
> Doughnut Monster wrote:
> I reckon there should be more street circuits.
> But they've more or less died out in motor racing.
>
> Street circuits are extremely dangerous. The 'good' thing about Monaco
> is that they don't carry a lot of speed. The most dangerous places are
> the tunnel and Massanet.
>
> Monaco is by far the most exotic of street circuits.
> It's also the most entertaining and most thrilling race to watch.
>
> It's not always the case. This year was great but Monaco has been dull
> in the past.
>
> Hungary is certainly an entertaining race but Germany is just as
> entertaining if nort more entertaining.
>
> I can't stand Hockenheim. It is such a boring track.

Hockenheim ain't always a Boring track.
Remember back in 200 when that nutter came out on the track and brought out the safety car.
That certainly made it more exiting, It even changed the whole race.
Boring? I think not.
Mon 27/05/02 at 11:36
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Doughnut Monster wrote:
> I reckon there should be more street circuits.
> But they've more or less died out in motor racing.

Street circuits are extremely dangerous. The 'good' thing about Monaco is that they don't carry a lot of speed. The most dangerous places are the tunnel and Massanet.

> Monaco is by far the most exotic of street circuits.
> It's also the most entertaining and most thrilling race to watch.

It's not always the case. This year was great but Monaco has been dull in the past.

> Hungary is certainly an entertaining race but Germany is just as
> entertaining if nort more entertaining.

I can't stand Hockenheim. It is such a boring track.

> Becaus ethe F-1 drivers have been racing in them for years and they've
> mastered all the best lines through all the circuits.
> They've got all the right set ups too.
> So that's hardly a challenge.

That isn't necessarily true. Every year, they bring a new car which handles differently to the previous one. So, setting up the car with last year's settings isn't going to do much. It would give you a rough idea but that is about it. Haven't you heard of Coulthard complaining that he couldn't find the setup this year? I know I have.

> What would be a challenge is if the FIA scraped all the existing
> circuits (Exept of course Monaco and build a completely new set of
> tracks.

That would be impossible and what exactly is that going to achieve? Schumacher went to Malaysia for the first time and destroyed the field.
Mon 27/05/02 at 11:08
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I reckon there should be more street circuits.
But they've more or less died out in motor racing.

Monaco is by far the most exotic of street circuits.
It's also the most entertaining and most thrilling race to watch.

Now if only all the races were like that.

I guess the closest to that is Hungary.

Hungary is certainly an entertaining race but Germany is just as entertaining if nort more entertaining.


I feel that there aren't enough challenging circuits.
Why?

Becaus ethe F-1 drivers have been racing in them for years and they've mastered all the best lines through all the circuits.
They've got all the right set ups too.
So that's hardly a challenge.

What would be a challenge is if the FIA scraped all the existing circuits (Exept of course Monaco and build a completely new set of tracks.

That way it will offer some pretty damm good races.
Maybe they could include a few more street circuits.
That would certainly liven things up.

But I can't see the FIA coming up with the money to fund such a drastic change.

for some circuits they wouldn't even have to build new ones because they could just use some of the tracks that are used in different formulas of racing they could maybe use Barns Hatch instead of Silverstone.

But half of the tracks used in other formulas of racing would be half big enough for the big and beutiful F-1 Cars.

If they did do this then this would be the most exiting change ever to take place in the history of F-1.

But I doubt this would ever happen.
So I guess we'll just have to carry on watching the usual races.
it's not that I don't like the venus, it's just that I feel that the FIA need to get their act together and come up with some sort of masterplan.

I hope that the scenes we saw in Austria will never happen again, or at least not in that fashion.

So here's to DC and his well deserved victory!
Mon 27/05/02 at 10:10
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Good discussion, nice to see DC win, I'm sure he worked hard for it.

As for fair play, to some extent, F1 is already fair. You get a team together, you build a car, plonk a driver in it, (or buy an already existing team outright) pay your dues to the FIA (or is it Bernie Ecclestone, never can quite tell), and away you go. The only thing that is unfair is that some companies spend a while lot more than others, that and Michael Schumacher seems to be untouchable as he is buddy-buddy with the afore mentioned Ecclestone. I wonder how badly Ferrari will be whooped by the FIA, not very is my guess.

Anyway, how about setting budget limits on all the teams, for instance, they can spend upto x amount on R&d, x amount on a race weekend, x amount on winter testing? Would that even up the field?

Failing that, am I correct that Indy Cart has "standardised" cars so they are pretty much the same in engine capacity and aerodynamics? Would F1 survive a standardisation like that?

One thing is for sure, the Monaco GP was the best I have seen all season, simply because it was so close run, I want to see more of that, and if it takes a change in the rules to bring it on, then so be it.
Mon 27/05/02 at 09:06
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Yes it's certainly nice to see a driver other than Michael win a race.
Especially one as challenging as Monaco.

Monaco is one of my favourite venues of the year.

F-1 needed a boost and thanks to david Coulthard I reckon F-1 got the vital boost it needed.
Sun 26/05/02 at 21:17
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I was so annoyed at what happened last week though...

I don't think this was fair at all. Ferrari had the 1-2 win in the bag and there was no need for Shumacher to win, he was already 29 points ahead of second place man Montoya (I think), that's almost 3 race wins! If Ferrari just want to win it shouldnt really matter who wins out of their 2 drivers.

This is what makes F1 boring, all the race comes down to is pit stops and team orders. There is no real point in working really hard from Formula 3000 and all the others and then finaly your dream has come true and your in Formula one and then when you have dominated a race and are about to win you are not allowed to.

Then after the race when Shumacher finished the race a couple of metres in front of Barichello he was waving his hand around feeling proud as if he had won the race hinself. It was only when he got to the podium and heared the crown booing that he looked like he was embarassed and then he gave Rubens the trophey and put him up to First place spot on the podium just so that he would stay popular.

But to make it less obvious they could have made Barichello slow down a little a few laps before the end. Or they could have added a few seconds onto a pit stop to make it look like Michael won it himself but it would still be really unfair on Barichello.

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Anyone watch todays race? It's nice to see Coulthard win a race this year! :D
Sun 26/05/02 at 20:22
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Michael Schumacher can be compared to Valentino Rossi in Moto GP. Both are the reigning champions and clear number one on the best bike/car with a quick teammate. In Moto GP were there's supposedly no team orders, at one race Ukawa (Rossi's teammate) overtook Rossi for the lead near the end. On the last lap Rossi tried everything to get back passed and nearly fell off and settled for second. Two races later Ukawa was leading and Rossi overtook him a couple of laps before rain stopped the race. Ukawa put up no resistance but no one could be sure whether it was team orders. Perhaps this is what Ferrari should have done as the way they did it made a mockery of the result.

As Monaco showed Formula One is not always predictable. Coulthard won just ahead of Michael and both Williams were competitive early on. In practice Renault looked to be the fastest team. Barrichello didn't even score points. Succes in Fomula One always swings like a pendulum. Last year Ferrari, Mclaren and Williams all took turns at being the fastest team.

British touring cars has improved over the last two years. Muller and Plato's battles of last year showed how teammates should and on occasions shouldn't race.
Fri 24/05/02 at 18:41
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doublezero wrote:
> The only halt to this dominance i can foresee is if Ferrari next year
> invest in a brilliant second driver. Rubens Barrichello is a good
> driver, but i'd love to see Coulthard, Button or Raikkonen get into a
> ferrari and give Schumacher a run for his money.

But Barrichello has proved that he can give Schumacher a run for his money. Neither of the Mclaren drivers could do any better. Schumacher is the best driver because he can drive well consistently. All race, every race. Not just in the odd qualifying session, or the first ten laps of a couple of races. No one else manages that.
Fri 24/05/02 at 10:52
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But why should Barrichello suffer because of schui being the better driver

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