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Stupid idiot wrote:
> And yes we do have the better games.
LOL "WE?"
Fanboys...when will they learn?
> And yes we do have the better games.
LOL "WE?"
Fanboys...when will they learn?
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Daveus wrote:
> Oh and who said the Xbox has no good games? i'd love to see Jet Set
> Radio and Project Gotham on the Gamecube. - JSRF and PGR belong to the
> king on the jungle - the xbox :-) does "ONLY ON XBOX" mean
> anything to you?
That's why I said i'd LIKE to see them on Gamecube, does 'learn to read' mean anything to you?
> Oh and who said the Xbox has no good games? i'd love to see Jet Set
> Radio and Project Gotham on the Gamecube. - JSRF and PGR belong to the
> king on the jungle - the xbox :-) does "ONLY ON XBOX" mean
> anything to you?
That's why I said i'd LIKE to see them on Gamecube, does 'learn to read' mean anything to you?
beanz wrote:
>
> -the size and weight of my console is a lot bigger than your console
> therefore the games will be better...
Yes that does sound a bit dumb.
> -the gamecube disks are small so therefore they obviously can't hold
> that much information
I think Gamecube disks can only hold about 3.5GB whilst DVDS have around 4.7GB space
> -ISS2 on the xbox is amazing but the gamecube version is absolute
> r*bbish
Hmm, It might just be the control layout. The gameplay might be the same or he thinks its different as it has Mario as the goalie. Joke.
> -the fact he seems to think that ground breaking games are dependent
> on the power of a machine.
Gameplay matters the most, Great games don't depend on hardware ect. but i do like my games good and with extremely advanced graphics :-)
> -and "bigger is better"
Im not sure what he means by this, if he means the console being larger in size, thats a load of bullcrap.
> i mean that sort of stuff is absolute bs if i have ever seen. at the
> end of the day....the console you get is based on WHAT GAMES SUIT
> YOU....PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES...accept that fact
I do Accept the fact that people prefer different games, Just that i like the xbox ones and i like to tell people about it ;)
>
> -the size and weight of my console is a lot bigger than your console
> therefore the games will be better...
Yes that does sound a bit dumb.
> -the gamecube disks are small so therefore they obviously can't hold
> that much information
I think Gamecube disks can only hold about 3.5GB whilst DVDS have around 4.7GB space
> -ISS2 on the xbox is amazing but the gamecube version is absolute
> r*bbish
Hmm, It might just be the control layout. The gameplay might be the same or he thinks its different as it has Mario as the goalie. Joke.
> -the fact he seems to think that ground breaking games are dependent
> on the power of a machine.
Gameplay matters the most, Great games don't depend on hardware ect. but i do like my games good and with extremely advanced graphics :-)
> -and "bigger is better"
Im not sure what he means by this, if he means the console being larger in size, thats a load of bullcrap.
> i mean that sort of stuff is absolute bs if i have ever seen. at the
> end of the day....the console you get is based on WHAT GAMES SUIT
> YOU....PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES...accept that fact
I do Accept the fact that people prefer different games, Just that i like the xbox ones and i like to tell people about it ;)
how can you possibly say it isn't a biased post...some of the stuff he said was absolutely st*pid...like:
-the size and weight of my console is a lot bigger than your console therefore the games will be better...
-the gamecube disks are small so therefore they obviously can't hold that much information
-ISS2 on the xbox is amazing but the gamecube version is absolute r*bbish
-the fact he seems to think that ground breaking games are dependent on the power of a machine.
-and "bigger is better"
i mean that sort of stuff is absolute bs if i have ever seen. at the end of the day....the console you get is based on WHAT GAMES SUIT YOU....PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES...accept that fact
-the size and weight of my console is a lot bigger than your console therefore the games will be better...
-the gamecube disks are small so therefore they obviously can't hold that much information
-ISS2 on the xbox is amazing but the gamecube version is absolute r*bbish
-the fact he seems to think that ground breaking games are dependent on the power of a machine.
-and "bigger is better"
i mean that sort of stuff is absolute bs if i have ever seen. at the end of the day....the console you get is based on WHAT GAMES SUIT YOU....PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES...accept that fact
I appluad up_in_smokes post, very intresting and i don't consider it biased at all. Most things in that post i totally agree with.
Come on you nints, i mean think about it most games on the gamecube are updates of past classics eg. Mario, Donkey Kong, Luigi. The xbox has HUGE potential and it MILES more powerful than the GC, the xbox has LOTS of games to come.
Games on a console go through 3 waves:-
Wave 1- Developers getting used to XBOX hardware and creating the launch games
Wave 2- (Starting in augest onwards) Developers become used to the xbox hardware and create more advanced grapical games
Wave 3- Is All the games after that
There is loads of games to look forward to on the XBOX and aswell as the concept of xbox live. Games such as Unreal Championship, Splinter Cell, Project Ego ecetera.
Come on you nints, i mean think about it most games on the gamecube are updates of past classics eg. Mario, Donkey Kong, Luigi. The xbox has HUGE potential and it MILES more powerful than the GC, the xbox has LOTS of games to come.
Games on a console go through 3 waves:-
Wave 1- Developers getting used to XBOX hardware and creating the launch games
Wave 2- (Starting in augest onwards) Developers become used to the xbox hardware and create more advanced grapical games
Wave 3- Is All the games after that
There is loads of games to look forward to on the XBOX and aswell as the concept of xbox live. Games such as Unreal Championship, Splinter Cell, Project Ego ecetera.
SolidSnakeXXI wrote:
> controller I've ever held, and has quality Nintendo innovation oozing
> from it. The X-BOX controller felt rushed and cramped.
Rofllmfao!!!!!!! The xbox controller was made from 10,000 hours of testing by many people. I dont think it was rushed in my point of view...
Anyway your small gamecube-girl addpated fingers cannot stretch to full span without complaining...
> controller I've ever held, and has quality Nintendo innovation oozing
> from it. The X-BOX controller felt rushed and cramped.
Rofllmfao!!!!!!! The xbox controller was made from 10,000 hours of testing by many people. I dont think it was rushed in my point of view...
Anyway your small gamecube-girl addpated fingers cannot stretch to full span without complaining...
I agree Beanz, people should stop making assumptions from size or weight or appearance of a console, controller, or (even as petty as it is) a disc.
Lets face it no console is perfect they are created to make money mostly not to look good or weigh less. They let us escape from our normal lives and have fun in a variety of worlds and places. Use them for what they are and don't get these console wars up for what you want them to be.
*doesn't bother to get down from soapbox and just sits on it instead*
hmmm i'm starting to sound like a politician...where's the alcohol...QUICK!
Lets face it no console is perfect they are created to make money mostly not to look good or weigh less. They let us escape from our normal lives and have fun in a variety of worlds and places. Use them for what they are and don't get these console wars up for what you want them to be.
*doesn't bother to get down from soapbox and just sits on it instead*
hmmm i'm starting to sound like a politician...where's the alcohol...QUICK!
up_in_smoke wrote:
>
> Just got to comment on some of the views that some of you have
> produced.
just have to comment on the comments you have made :D
> 1. I think the Gamecube controller is a shocker, so small and figity.
afraid i haven't played a gamecube so i can't really comment on the controller...
> The Xbox controller has almost copied the ps2 layout in a way with the
> 4'main' buttons in the middle. A,B,X,Y same as with PS2 X,O,triangle
> and square, this is a possitive.
the buttons are far closer together on the xbox than the ps2 which can make fighting games slightly troublesome cos you can accidentally overlap buttons...
The buttons at the back of the xbox
> are smooth and easy to control pressure when neccassary (ie racing
> games.)
i find that the trigger buttons are a bit too tight...so when playing racing games for long periods...my hands start to hurt slightly.
>
> 2.Xbox does have good games (very good games.) Admittedly not too
> many, but a large handfull. Along with the obvious, like Halo and Dead
> or Alive3. It also has some underated games such as Project Gotham
> Racing, which is probably the best driving game ive played (twice as
> good as GT3.)
there were quite a lot of launch games that appealed to me (which is why i have an xbox) but there just doesn't seem to be that much that is coming out at the moment that is very good. Many of the highly anticipated games that i was looking forward to such as hunter: the reckoning and gun valkyrie - i mean they're not awful but i was expecting so much more from them.
Also ISS2 is amazing, not to everyones taste, but i love
> it.
haven't played it
Ive also played the GC version of this game. Apparently its the
> same game, but when i first played it round my mates house i actually
> thought it was a different game. Its just a prototype version of the
> Xbox game. Its one of the most irratating and awfully poor football
> games ive ever played. Its just missing soo much. I think its mainly
> due to the GC's lack of buttons. I cant blame the developers, it cant
> be their fault, they've just made an excellent game for the Xbox. It
> must be the system they had to work with, (GC)that brings about the
> vicies which occur on the Gamecube version.
but even though i haven't played it i don't see how it could be so radically different. the only different thing would be the button config....so the whole game mechanics will be the same as the xbox version.
> 4. I dont think the Gamcube has the power that is needed to produce
> any ground breaking games. Plus the hardware is soo small that you
> have to believe the fact that bigger is better.
at the moment....there really hasn't been THAT much difference graphically between the three next gen consoles...having a small hardware doesn't mean it isn't good...i actually don't really see your logic...the specs are lower but great games can and are being produced. i mean graphically speaking i think that the resident evil games look better than most of the xbox games...and any ground breaking games also require excellent gameplay which surely is possible regardless of hardware used...are you saying that the dreamcast didn't have any ground breaking games even though it had worse hardware.
Xbox is about 4 times
> bigger and about 6 times heavier. Thus directly proportioned to gaming
> potential, we can deduce that xbox is undoubtably the better machine.
that's such a pile of bull....how can size and weight be proportional to gaming potential?!
> Though just because its got almost double the spec and functions, good
> game systems must have good games to play on it. Hopefully penny
> pinching bill gates will see that in order to make money, he has to
> spend money. Sony have pulled off many stunts involving large sums of
> money being paid to game developers so that the release of a game will
> be witheld from a certain console for a certain period of time,
> helping the PS2 rise above the compotition in the market. Hopefully
> microsoft will notcie that some xbox owners arnt fully happy with the
> games released soo far and soon bill will get his cheque book out and
> pay some bills.
bill has been getting his cheque book out...but the thing is good games need to be coming out NOW not at the end of this year. i mean there really haven't (in my opinion) been any really good games out after the launch...microsoft need good games NOW to establish itself
> 5. I believe that if mr.gates can start throwing money at the console
> it will stand a better chance at domonating the market, microsoft is
> one of the most (if not THE most) successful companies in the world.
> They have to money to take gaming to a new level, unlike nintendo who
> have still yet to leave the realms of out of date mario titles and
> kids' games. ( i wonder which colour of pokemon games we'll recieve
> tomorrow.... lylac??,colourless??.
mr gates has been throwing so much money at the console...and also i really haven't seen many games on the xbox take "games to a new level"...also it isn't the money that will take gaming to a new level it's the develepors...nintendo have great companies like rare which have taken and will take games to a new level. not all nintendo games are kid's games either...
> 6. What is with those tiny little disks that the GC has, it quite
> blatently cant hold as much infomation as a normal cd. Apparently its
> a new type of disk and rom, but from the shoddy games ive seen on the
> gc, i can only believe that bigger is better.
the tiny disks actually hold a heck of a lot of information...far more than your normal cd...the new disk is to prevent pirating (which i applaud)...i'm all for people battling against piracy...you'd best ask someone else for exactly how much a disk holds
> 7.It doesnt even have a dvd player on it, whats with that?
> Xbox has one,(admittedly you have to pay 20 quid for a remote for it
> to work, but its better than paying 120 squid to have a big fvckoff
> box aswell as a gamesystem in your room. Atleast with xbox you have
> them all in a (slightly larger than normal) DVD player sized box.
err so what if it doesn't have a dvd player...this is how nintendo can afford to price their console at their price (and a good price it is too)...anyway people get a console for THE GAMES
> 8. Why hasnt nintendo seen the possibilities of having a built in hard
> drive like the Xbox? The internet capabilities are huge. You could
> download new levels onto your Harddrive, or new Modifacations. For
> anyone who has ever played half-life (counter-strike, TFC etc) knows
> that games like that are ever changing and the beauty of having a
> harddrive is that you can change the game almost, just using the same
> disc, but changing slight bits with the files on your harddrive. (
> this is if the technology';s good enough, i reakon it should be, its
> pretty much a pc in a box.) Try saving anything on that tiny little
> memory card the Gamecube has and youll see that the hard drive is a
> genius idea.
you don't need that big a memory card for save games cos they really don't take up much space....the 4mb mem card could hold a heck of a lot of save games. although i do have to agree that the xbox hard drive is a good move....
i mean i'm not a ninty cos i haven't ever owned a nintendo console but you really just have been spouting so much c*ap...
>
> Just got to comment on some of the views that some of you have
> produced.
just have to comment on the comments you have made :D
> 1. I think the Gamecube controller is a shocker, so small and figity.
afraid i haven't played a gamecube so i can't really comment on the controller...
> The Xbox controller has almost copied the ps2 layout in a way with the
> 4'main' buttons in the middle. A,B,X,Y same as with PS2 X,O,triangle
> and square, this is a possitive.
the buttons are far closer together on the xbox than the ps2 which can make fighting games slightly troublesome cos you can accidentally overlap buttons...
The buttons at the back of the xbox
> are smooth and easy to control pressure when neccassary (ie racing
> games.)
i find that the trigger buttons are a bit too tight...so when playing racing games for long periods...my hands start to hurt slightly.
>
> 2.Xbox does have good games (very good games.) Admittedly not too
> many, but a large handfull. Along with the obvious, like Halo and Dead
> or Alive3. It also has some underated games such as Project Gotham
> Racing, which is probably the best driving game ive played (twice as
> good as GT3.)
there were quite a lot of launch games that appealed to me (which is why i have an xbox) but there just doesn't seem to be that much that is coming out at the moment that is very good. Many of the highly anticipated games that i was looking forward to such as hunter: the reckoning and gun valkyrie - i mean they're not awful but i was expecting so much more from them.
Also ISS2 is amazing, not to everyones taste, but i love
> it.
haven't played it
Ive also played the GC version of this game. Apparently its the
> same game, but when i first played it round my mates house i actually
> thought it was a different game. Its just a prototype version of the
> Xbox game. Its one of the most irratating and awfully poor football
> games ive ever played. Its just missing soo much. I think its mainly
> due to the GC's lack of buttons. I cant blame the developers, it cant
> be their fault, they've just made an excellent game for the Xbox. It
> must be the system they had to work with, (GC)that brings about the
> vicies which occur on the Gamecube version.
but even though i haven't played it i don't see how it could be so radically different. the only different thing would be the button config....so the whole game mechanics will be the same as the xbox version.
> 4. I dont think the Gamcube has the power that is needed to produce
> any ground breaking games. Plus the hardware is soo small that you
> have to believe the fact that bigger is better.
at the moment....there really hasn't been THAT much difference graphically between the three next gen consoles...having a small hardware doesn't mean it isn't good...i actually don't really see your logic...the specs are lower but great games can and are being produced. i mean graphically speaking i think that the resident evil games look better than most of the xbox games...and any ground breaking games also require excellent gameplay which surely is possible regardless of hardware used...are you saying that the dreamcast didn't have any ground breaking games even though it had worse hardware.
Xbox is about 4 times
> bigger and about 6 times heavier. Thus directly proportioned to gaming
> potential, we can deduce that xbox is undoubtably the better machine.
that's such a pile of bull....how can size and weight be proportional to gaming potential?!
> Though just because its got almost double the spec and functions, good
> game systems must have good games to play on it. Hopefully penny
> pinching bill gates will see that in order to make money, he has to
> spend money. Sony have pulled off many stunts involving large sums of
> money being paid to game developers so that the release of a game will
> be witheld from a certain console for a certain period of time,
> helping the PS2 rise above the compotition in the market. Hopefully
> microsoft will notcie that some xbox owners arnt fully happy with the
> games released soo far and soon bill will get his cheque book out and
> pay some bills.
bill has been getting his cheque book out...but the thing is good games need to be coming out NOW not at the end of this year. i mean there really haven't (in my opinion) been any really good games out after the launch...microsoft need good games NOW to establish itself
> 5. I believe that if mr.gates can start throwing money at the console
> it will stand a better chance at domonating the market, microsoft is
> one of the most (if not THE most) successful companies in the world.
> They have to money to take gaming to a new level, unlike nintendo who
> have still yet to leave the realms of out of date mario titles and
> kids' games. ( i wonder which colour of pokemon games we'll recieve
> tomorrow.... lylac??,colourless??.
mr gates has been throwing so much money at the console...and also i really haven't seen many games on the xbox take "games to a new level"...also it isn't the money that will take gaming to a new level it's the develepors...nintendo have great companies like rare which have taken and will take games to a new level. not all nintendo games are kid's games either...
> 6. What is with those tiny little disks that the GC has, it quite
> blatently cant hold as much infomation as a normal cd. Apparently its
> a new type of disk and rom, but from the shoddy games ive seen on the
> gc, i can only believe that bigger is better.
the tiny disks actually hold a heck of a lot of information...far more than your normal cd...the new disk is to prevent pirating (which i applaud)...i'm all for people battling against piracy...you'd best ask someone else for exactly how much a disk holds
> 7.It doesnt even have a dvd player on it, whats with that?
> Xbox has one,(admittedly you have to pay 20 quid for a remote for it
> to work, but its better than paying 120 squid to have a big fvckoff
> box aswell as a gamesystem in your room. Atleast with xbox you have
> them all in a (slightly larger than normal) DVD player sized box.
err so what if it doesn't have a dvd player...this is how nintendo can afford to price their console at their price (and a good price it is too)...anyway people get a console for THE GAMES
> 8. Why hasnt nintendo seen the possibilities of having a built in hard
> drive like the Xbox? The internet capabilities are huge. You could
> download new levels onto your Harddrive, or new Modifacations. For
> anyone who has ever played half-life (counter-strike, TFC etc) knows
> that games like that are ever changing and the beauty of having a
> harddrive is that you can change the game almost, just using the same
> disc, but changing slight bits with the files on your harddrive. (
> this is if the technology';s good enough, i reakon it should be, its
> pretty much a pc in a box.) Try saving anything on that tiny little
> memory card the Gamecube has and youll see that the hard drive is a
> genius idea.
you don't need that big a memory card for save games cos they really don't take up much space....the 4mb mem card could hold a heck of a lot of save games. although i do have to agree that the xbox hard drive is a good move....
i mean i'm not a ninty cos i haven't ever owned a nintendo console but you really just have been spouting so much c*ap...
Tiltawhirl wrote:
> Mainly BS my biased friend, I would break your post down and crticise
> it but I really can't be bothred and I don't want to get into another
> console argument with a bunch of fanboys.
- what does this "fanboys" crap mean?
> Oh and who said the Xbox has no good games? i'd love to see Jet Set
> Radio and Project Gotham on the Gamecube. - JSRF and PGR belong to the king on the jungle - the xbox :-) does "ONLY ON XBOX" mean anything to you?
> Mainly BS my biased friend, I would break your post down and crticise
> it but I really can't be bothred and I don't want to get into another
> console argument with a bunch of fanboys.
- what does this "fanboys" crap mean?
> Oh and who said the Xbox has no good games? i'd love to see Jet Set
> Radio and Project Gotham on the Gamecube. - JSRF and PGR belong to the king on the jungle - the xbox :-) does "ONLY ON XBOX" mean anything to you?
XRAli wrote:
> This is why no good debates can actually get going on here. Nobody (or
> very few) decides to look on from both sides of view and quotes a load
> of propaganda from their format's point of view.
>
> The Gamecube is good and has a following of people, a nice selection
> of games for all ages and the controller, although not perfect for
> some it is well designed and thought out.
>
> The Xbox is a good console also with a following of fans, it has a
> selection of good quality fun games which the owners enjoy playing.
> The controller is well made but loses out slightly on it's size
> especially in Japan but this doesn't affect the main console.
>
> The PS2 is a good console and the most popular. It has a huge library
> of games with a few special games. the controller is the most
> universally accepted from the three and it has a great reputation.
>
> All three consoles are great consoles, it is the buyers choice whether
> they should buy one of the consoles and that is they're preference,
> don't try and bring down something that you don't like as it is liked
> by others. We don't need to go into eachother's forums and spout
> over-zealous fanboy rubbish in 'their' faces. Respect eachothers
> consoles and the owners themselves, it is their choice not yours.
>
> *steps down from soapbox*
Nice rant!!
And on that note, let this thread be deleted, like it should've been when the flaming began.
> This is why no good debates can actually get going on here. Nobody (or
> very few) decides to look on from both sides of view and quotes a load
> of propaganda from their format's point of view.
>
> The Gamecube is good and has a following of people, a nice selection
> of games for all ages and the controller, although not perfect for
> some it is well designed and thought out.
>
> The Xbox is a good console also with a following of fans, it has a
> selection of good quality fun games which the owners enjoy playing.
> The controller is well made but loses out slightly on it's size
> especially in Japan but this doesn't affect the main console.
>
> The PS2 is a good console and the most popular. It has a huge library
> of games with a few special games. the controller is the most
> universally accepted from the three and it has a great reputation.
>
> All three consoles are great consoles, it is the buyers choice whether
> they should buy one of the consoles and that is they're preference,
> don't try and bring down something that you don't like as it is liked
> by others. We don't need to go into eachother's forums and spout
> over-zealous fanboy rubbish in 'their' faces. Respect eachothers
> consoles and the owners themselves, it is their choice not yours.
>
> *steps down from soapbox*
Nice rant!!
And on that note, let this thread be deleted, like it should've been when the flaming began.
nice speech man :-)
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