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Mon 14/10/02 at 22:17
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XboxLive-gonna be great, we all want it, gonna all play each other blah blah blah. But I'm not 100% sure about all the technical mumbo jumbo, so I'd like to say, hold on a momnet.

I mentioned Broadband to my Dad a few weeks ago and told him the other night that Freeserve were doing a deal- £85 for all the equipment and FREE line registration worth £65. "good stuff" he said.

Now, this is where I'm getting worried. Looking through an old edition of Xgamer it had a broadband feature, and it came to USB modems, something which Freeserve broadband use. Xgamer only said "make sure the broadband modem you get has an ethernet port to be compatable with your Xbox." The picture beside this statement shows a green USB modem which i'm certain is the Freeserve one.

I go on to check btbroadband online, and it too uses ADSL with a usb modem. I check the broadband availablitity for my area and it says I might be able to get it. Hmmmm however NO MENTION OF AN ETHERNET PORT...

Please, someone who knows technical stuff inside out(Nomad, Tom ect) could you tell me if a USB modem can be made plug into an xbox, perhaps through buying an aditional connecter or something. Xbox Live doesn't nessicaraly require you to upgrade your line and get some dude into to know holes in your wall, does it? ADSL doesn't need that, right?

It would be a disaster if XboxLive could not be playable on through this.
Wed 16/10/02 at 20:10
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Important notice people!

Remember Freeserve are doing free line activation worth £65 meaning you only have to pay £85 for the USB modem.

BUT

It also says on their website you can use your own equipment to get online. So that means you don't have to play the £85 for the set up pack.

If you can find online a USB modem which has an ethernet Out port, that means you don't need to use the PC. Problem solved. (?)

I'm not sure if thats correct but, adrian, tom confirm?
Wed 16/10/02 at 20:03
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This is a good site if you want to see the alternatives of the USB Modem

http://www.btofaq.net/articles/routers.html
Wed 16/10/02 at 19:24
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gamezfreak wrote:
> http://www.xbox.com/LIVE/connect/choose.htm

Choose Direct connection from the site and saw a Modem that had a Ethernet out port. Hmmm never see those over here. Don't forget that the information on that page is for the US people. I have never seen a modem with a DSL modem with a Ethernet out. Normally you would have the USB or it would be internal. So a USB modem would only have a DSL IN connection with no Ethernet out.

Also on the Router option, they have a Cable/DSL modem in the setup which isnt needed over here in the UK, as a Router should act like a modem.

The Windows ICS connection is what I am going to use, and looks easy to set up. I have already used this to play XBox online via XBoxconnect and Gamespy.
Wed 16/10/02 at 18:18
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http://www.xbox.com/LIVE/connect/choose.htm
Wed 16/10/02 at 17:34
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BT don't actually mind you using more than one computer on one broadband account. I have a BT openworld Broadband account, and currently have 4 PCs hooked up to it via a router.

They just refuse to offer support for it. Otherwise they'd get stupid computer users ringing up and asking "how the hell to run this router I've just bought".

Here's some reviews of routers - just watch it's a modem/router you look up, not just a modem:

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/default.asp
Wed 16/10/02 at 17:26
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Strafex wrote:
> I've heard that a "router" makes things simpler, especially
> if you have more than one PC in the house.
>
> The BT Broadband site doesn't mention it though.
>
> What's this Router then?

Its possible, but BT dont support more than one PC online with one Broadband account, hence me having to buy my second broadband account (after me thinking I could use my dads blueyonder).

Sucks big time. The bloody Xbox better work online!
Wed 16/10/02 at 16:01
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Ok.

I only need the router for a couple of PC's and the Xbox (which I might not even get in the end...)

This could cost anything up to £150 + wiring around the house.

What's more, as it is I'll need to upgrade the downstairs computer in order to use broadband (min spec is 233mhz wih 32mb of RAM - the 6 year old PC downstairs is a mere P120 with 16mb), and then there's the £30 initiation process and £27 a month line rental...


Persuading mum and dad to go broadband just became that much more difficult... :-D
Wed 16/10/02 at 15:52
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"Jim Jam Jim"
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Strafex wrote:
> Alright then...
>
> I've got 2 PC's and I'd want a connection in my bedroom too...
> So I'd want to get a "Router"...
>
> But seeing as each connection is in a different room, would I'd need
> to wire this router around the entire house?
>
> Sounds like a bit of a pain but I suppose it would be worth it.
> How much do these router's cost?

Routers can cost from £100 - £1000's depending on what you want. A simple £100-150 would be fine.

So you would need a Network card in both PC's. Then buy the router and leave it near one of the PC's, as you would probably have a phone socket near one. Then you would need some Network cable probably the crossover kind. So yes you would need to wire it all around the house to use the internet on the 2 PC's.

You could have a modem on each PC or a USB modem that you swap between the 2 computers, but this would mean only 1 of the computers could use the internet at anyone time.

Then the XBox would be connected to the PC via the network card in this situation instead of the router.

A router would be a good idea if you want to have both PC's accessing the internet at the same time. And the XBox could be connected to it without any of the PC's needing to be turned on.
Wed 16/10/02 at 15:39
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Alright then...

I've got 2 PC's and I'd want a connection in my bedroom too...
So I'd want to get a "Router"...

But seeing as each connection is in a different room, would I'd need to wire this router around the entire house?

Sounds like a bit of a pain but I suppose it would be worth it.
How much do these router's cost?
Wed 16/10/02 at 14:41
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"Jim Jam Jim"
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Strafex wrote:
> If I get a "broadband phone socket" in my room, will I be
> able to connect the Xbox straight to the modem, or will I need to run
> some sort of cable from my room to one of the PC's?

Yes you would need a PC if the broadband your getting is ADSL, if its cable then NO you wouldnt need a PC.

Any phone socket in your house will be a broadband socket if you have ADSL. So if you already have a phone socket in your room then you will already have a broadband enabled phone socket.

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