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What is it about people being really eager to rubbish the Xbox, while happily overlooking Sony and Nintendo’s mistakes? While Sony run their own game conference at which every game pod crashes and the main-screen demos are cancelled, people completely ignore this and point the finger at Microsoft for having one demo crash in one part of one game show.
And now we have another classic example. Microsoft is apparently recalling all Japanese Xbox consoles because they scratch game discs and 250,000 people have complained. In fact, only 600 people have complained, there will be no recall, and the discs are only scratched at the sides where it won’t affect the data on them anyway.
But what is even more interesting is the massive disregard for Sony’s abysmal product fault record- they had a far higher proportion of faulty launch consoles that had to be replaced, and are still have quite a few faulty consoles being returned. Yet no one speaks of this- instead they point the finger at Microsoft and shout abuse about them being unprofessional and trying to buy their way into the industry.
People criticise MS for buying smaller developers, putting millions in advertising, and buying exclusive games… which happens to be exactly what Sony did with the original Playstation!
People say that the Xbox isn’t worth buying because MS haven’t had the experience of Nintendo. Well, by this reasoning, the N64 was the best console ever. As was the Virtual Boy. As was the 64 DD. Amazing how Sony can get away with only being in the industry for a short time, and Nintendo can get away with some of the biggest console disasters in history, yet people rubbish Microsoft’s console before it even gets out.
People say that the Xbox isn’t worth buying because MS feels they have to put so much into advertising that it would appear that the games must not be able to sell the console themselves. Odd how the Dreamcast failed despite having some of the best games ever seen.
People can be very one sided some times.
Sonic
And now we have another classic example. Microsoft is apparently recalling all Japanese Xbox consoles because they scratch game discs and 250,000 people have complained. In fact, only 600 people have complained, there will be no recall, and the discs are only scratched at the sides where it won’t affect the data on them anyway.
But what is even more interesting is the massive disregard for Sony’s abysmal product fault record- they had a far higher proportion of faulty launch consoles that had to be replaced, and are still have quite a few faulty consoles being returned. Yet no one speaks of this- instead they point the finger at Microsoft and shout abuse about them being unprofessional and trying to buy their way into the industry.
People criticise MS for buying smaller developers, putting millions in advertising, and buying exclusive games… which happens to be exactly what Sony did with the original Playstation!
People say that the Xbox isn’t worth buying because MS haven’t had the experience of Nintendo. Well, by this reasoning, the N64 was the best console ever. As was the Virtual Boy. As was the 64 DD. Amazing how Sony can get away with only being in the industry for a short time, and Nintendo can get away with some of the biggest console disasters in history, yet people rubbish Microsoft’s console before it even gets out.
People say that the Xbox isn’t worth buying because MS feels they have to put so much into advertising that it would appear that the games must not be able to sell the console themselves. Odd how the Dreamcast failed despite having some of the best games ever seen.
People can be very one sided some times.
Sonic
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Sonic
Oh, Sonic, please don't make the same reply TWICE!
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joke.
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joke.
How did I find out...
By the sheer fact the, during all the recall news, MS never actually issued their own statement, and no web site said that the news had come from "sources within Microsoft".
Add to that MS has come out and denied it all...
Oh, and Avatar, please don't quote the WHOLE post for a one line reply!
Sonic
By the sheer fact the, during all the recall news, MS never actually issued their own statement, and no web site said that the news had come from "sources within Microsoft".
Add to that MS has come out and denied it all...
Oh, and Avatar, please don't quote the WHOLE post for a one line reply!
Sonic
How did I find out...
By the sheer fact the, during all the recall news, MS never actually issued their own statement, and no web site said that the news had come from "sources within Microsoft".
Add to that MS has come out and denied it all...
Oh, and Avatar, please don't quote the WHOLE post for a one line reply!
Sonic
By the sheer fact the, during all the recall news, MS never actually issued their own statement, and no web site said that the news had come from "sources within Microsoft".
Add to that MS has come out and denied it all...
Oh, and Avatar, please don't quote the WHOLE post for a one line reply!
Sonic
===SONICRAV---> wrote:
> Avatar wrote:
> there is an offcial recall of all xboxs in japan, and no one
> said 250,000 people
> complained, just that that is how many xbox's where
> released in japan.
Did you read the topic? There is no recall! None was or
> has ever been announced- it was just made up by some people on the web!
Get
> it? NO RECALL.
and no
> one told me about this sony game show. a would
> have said something if i had
> know. and i never said the dd and virtualboy
> were success'. they were made
> before these forums started. so how was i
> going to comment? "news just in,
> somthing release 3-4 years was a
> complete muck up"
ummm... ok... I wasn't actually aiming the topic
> squarely at you! The points about the Sony fiasco, and Ninty console mess up
> were made to emphasise how people ignore the bad things about other companies
> and emphasise those about people like MS.
After all, you'd never even heard
> of the Sony mess up. Why? Because most mags never printed it, web sites ignored
> it, and everyone turned a blind eye. Proving my point I believe?
Sonic
ok, i believe you. but im still dont know how you fould out it was all made up (the xbox recall). and im sorry i went a bit mental.
> Avatar wrote:
> there is an offcial recall of all xboxs in japan, and no one
> said 250,000 people
> complained, just that that is how many xbox's where
> released in japan.
Did you read the topic? There is no recall! None was or
> has ever been announced- it was just made up by some people on the web!
Get
> it? NO RECALL.
and no
> one told me about this sony game show. a would
> have said something if i had
> know. and i never said the dd and virtualboy
> were success'. they were made
> before these forums started. so how was i
> going to comment? "news just in,
> somthing release 3-4 years was a
> complete muck up"
ummm... ok... I wasn't actually aiming the topic
> squarely at you! The points about the Sony fiasco, and Ninty console mess up
> were made to emphasise how people ignore the bad things about other companies
> and emphasise those about people like MS.
After all, you'd never even heard
> of the Sony mess up. Why? Because most mags never printed it, web sites ignored
> it, and everyone turned a blind eye. Proving my point I believe?
Sonic
ok, i believe you. but im still dont know how you fould out it was all made up (the xbox recall). and im sorry i went a bit mental.
Avatar wrote:
> there is an offcial recall of all xboxs in japan, and no one said 250,000 people
> complained, just that that is how many xbox's where released in japan.
Did you read the topic? There is no recall! None was or has ever been announced- it was just made up by some people on the web!
Get it? NO RECALL.
and no
> one told me about this sony game show. a would have said something if i had
> know. and i never said the dd and virtualboy were success'. they were made
> before these forums started. so how was i going to comment? "news just in,
> somthing release 3-4 years was a complete muck up"
ummm... ok... I wasn't actually aiming the topic squarely at you! The points about the Sony fiasco, and Ninty console mess up were made to emphasise how people ignore the bad things about other companies and emphasise those about people like MS.
After all, you'd never even heard of the Sony mess up. Why? Because most mags never printed it, web sites ignored it, and everyone turned a blind eye. Proving my point I believe?
Sonic
> there is an offcial recall of all xboxs in japan, and no one said 250,000 people
> complained, just that that is how many xbox's where released in japan.
Did you read the topic? There is no recall! None was or has ever been announced- it was just made up by some people on the web!
Get it? NO RECALL.
and no
> one told me about this sony game show. a would have said something if i had
> know. and i never said the dd and virtualboy were success'. they were made
> before these forums started. so how was i going to comment? "news just in,
> somthing release 3-4 years was a complete muck up"
ummm... ok... I wasn't actually aiming the topic squarely at you! The points about the Sony fiasco, and Ninty console mess up were made to emphasise how people ignore the bad things about other companies and emphasise those about people like MS.
After all, you'd never even heard of the Sony mess up. Why? Because most mags never printed it, web sites ignored it, and everyone turned a blind eye. Proving my point I believe?
Sonic
ive finished complaining now. sorry. i had a bit of a build up of steam then. sorry.
Mantis wrote:
> I have seen the xbox add once on TV and I think its very good. Its strange like
> the PS2 adds with the the xbox slogan PLAYMORE appearing at the end. I would
> like to see more of them though.
i hate strange game adverts. give me the gta3 advert any day.
> I have seen the xbox add once on TV and I think its very good. Its strange like
> the PS2 adds with the the xbox slogan PLAYMORE appearing at the end. I would
> like to see more of them though.
i hate strange game adverts. give me the gta3 advert any day.
Solskjær_24 wrote:
> I think Sony 'get away with it' because they are such a big name, in more ways
> than just gaming.
They are and always have been huge in the elctronics
> industry, especially with devices for CD's, MiniDiscs and the rest. And with
> such a reputation outside the gaming worls they have many more fans and people
> on their side than the 'games company' Nintendo, and all the 'Sonys' out there
> feel their company can do no wrong, and try to ignore previous incidents.
And
> they then jump at the chance to attack another console for it's mistakes, even
> if Sony themselves have experiecned the same mistakes!
It's all down to
> rivalry and what people believe.
yeah, and microsoft aren't a big name, of course. they dont make software at all do they? they arnt big out side the gameing industry, are they?
some people...
> I think Sony 'get away with it' because they are such a big name, in more ways
> than just gaming.
They are and always have been huge in the elctronics
> industry, especially with devices for CD's, MiniDiscs and the rest. And with
> such a reputation outside the gaming worls they have many more fans and people
> on their side than the 'games company' Nintendo, and all the 'Sonys' out there
> feel their company can do no wrong, and try to ignore previous incidents.
And
> they then jump at the chance to attack another console for it's mistakes, even
> if Sony themselves have experiecned the same mistakes!
It's all down to
> rivalry and what people believe.
yeah, and microsoft aren't a big name, of course. they dont make software at all do they? they arnt big out side the gameing industry, are they?
some people...
there is an offcial recall of all xboxs in japan, and no one said 250,000 people complained, just that that is how many xbox's where released in japan.
and no one told me about this sony game show. a would have said something if i had know. and i never said the dd and virtualboy were success'. they were made before these forums started. so how was i going to comment? "news just in, somthing release 3-4 years was a complete muck up"
and no one told me about this sony game show. a would have said something if i had know. and i never said the dd and virtualboy were success'. they were made before these forums started. so how was i going to comment? "news just in, somthing release 3-4 years was a complete muck up"
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