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Before I begin, I want you all to take note that no offence is intended here. This is merely my view on America and how they percieve us.
Anyone else think that America can be egotistical a lot of the time? I mean, I think that many Americans think that they're better than us, and that the 'good ol US of A' is any better than Britain. Is it just me, or do they have a different word for everything? Is it because they have to be better than us, or is it just for the sake of it, or something else? I'm stumped, so a little help here is appreciated.
How about ignorance of Americans in the media? A good example of this is Demolition Man. At an awards ceremony, Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone ignored Nigel Hawthorne, a co-actor in the film. Did I mention that he was british?
Do Americans think of us as posh? In television, I see a helluva lot of prejudiced or hilarity at the expense of us, as we are portrayed as crumpet eating, tea drinking people who are completely shielded from the bad matters of the world.
My friend has just come back from Florida, and he had the following conversion with a cashier in a resturant:
Friend: Hello. I'd like a bottle of water please.
Cashier: A what?
Friend: A bottle of water.
Cashier 2: He means a bottle of water (in American accent)
Cashier: Oh, here you go.
*Hands my friend a 'bottle of water'*
Who actually spoke the English language first - America or England?
I do admire America's patriotism though, something which is somewhat a rarity here, with people too scared to show their traits, because there are so many ethnic minorities in the country now (I dare say it's a bad thing, however).
I'm not keen on America, but I love their taffy :0)
What do you think?
Anyone else think that America can be egotistical a lot of the time? I mean, I think that many Americans think that they're better than us, and that the 'good ol US of A' is any better than Britain. Is it just me, or do they have a different word for everything? Is it because they have to be better than us, or is it just for the sake of it, or something else? I'm stumped, so a little help here is appreciated.
How about ignorance of Americans in the media? A good example of this is Demolition Man. At an awards ceremony, Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone ignored Nigel Hawthorne, a co-actor in the film. Did I mention that he was british?
Do Americans think of us as posh? In television, I see a helluva lot of prejudiced or hilarity at the expense of us, as we are portrayed as crumpet eating, tea drinking people who are completely shielded from the bad matters of the world.
My friend has just come back from Florida, and he had the following conversion with a cashier in a resturant:
Friend: Hello. I'd like a bottle of water please.
Cashier: A what?
Friend: A bottle of water.
Cashier 2: He means a bottle of water (in American accent)
Cashier: Oh, here you go.
*Hands my friend a 'bottle of water'*
Who actually spoke the English language first - America or England?
I do admire America's patriotism though, something which is somewhat a rarity here, with people too scared to show their traits, because there are so many ethnic minorities in the country now (I dare say it's a bad thing, however).
I'm not keen on America, but I love their taffy :0)
What do you think?
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Wasn't this supposed to be a light-hearted topic?
Anyway, here's my stupid reason that America stinks: during the winter olympics all the American broadcasters changed the way the medal table works. Instead of it going by the number of gold medals won - like it always has - CNN etc changed it to the TOTAL number of medals won, so a bronze counted the same as a gold. This was to make the US look better. The result? They beat Norway. Woo-hoo! I mean isn't that just a little bit pathetic?
Anyway, here's my stupid reason that America stinks: during the winter olympics all the American broadcasters changed the way the medal table works. Instead of it going by the number of gold medals won - like it always has - CNN etc changed it to the TOTAL number of medals won, so a bronze counted the same as a gold. This was to make the US look better. The result? They beat Norway. Woo-hoo! I mean isn't that just a little bit pathetic?
Belldandy wrote:
Oh hooray, yet more words of wisdom. Good news all, if you
> live in Manchester and Liverpool then you're retarded ! More English words of
> wisdom from Tequila Sunset. And I can understand all the American accents just
> fine thanks, and these two english ones you mention.
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But didn't you say that their dialects were retarded, and that all americans sound the same?
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>We've commited to the eurofighter, possibly the worst fighter we could buy.
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I would like to know why the eurofighter is such a bad aircraft when it will replace the ageing designs of the Tornado, Jaguar and Sentry meaning that they can be taken in by carrier to a destination and their weapons can be set up for the job.
You also said that no one will attack us from the air but that doesn't disqualify the eurofighter as it can handle Air inderdiction (2 storm shadow, 2 ALARM, 4 AMRAAM and 2 ASRAAM), Close air support (18 Brimstone, 4 AMRAAM, 2 ASRAAM), SEAD (6 ALARM, 4 AMRAAM, 2 ASRAAM) and maritime attack (4 Penguin, 4 AMRAAM, 2 ASRAAM). I'm sorry about the F-16 thing which I agree I was a mistake on my part as I read my information slightly wrong.
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you then go on to quote:
>The American JSF is a far better option, and thankfully >the Americans have offered it to us, and it will be >replacig our Harrier jump jets by 2010.
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but I thought there was no point in this as we don't need any new fighters as no one will challenge us from the air?
Also (now I don't mean any offence here) but how the hell is having a degree in Human geography a useful qualification. I may be missing something here, but it seems that there is little jobs for that kind of work.
TS
Oh hooray, yet more words of wisdom. Good news all, if you
> live in Manchester and Liverpool then you're retarded ! More English words of
> wisdom from Tequila Sunset. And I can understand all the American accents just
> fine thanks, and these two english ones you mention.
---
But didn't you say that their dialects were retarded, and that all americans sound the same?
---
>We've commited to the eurofighter, possibly the worst fighter we could buy.
---
I would like to know why the eurofighter is such a bad aircraft when it will replace the ageing designs of the Tornado, Jaguar and Sentry meaning that they can be taken in by carrier to a destination and their weapons can be set up for the job.
You also said that no one will attack us from the air but that doesn't disqualify the eurofighter as it can handle Air inderdiction (2 storm shadow, 2 ALARM, 4 AMRAAM and 2 ASRAAM), Close air support (18 Brimstone, 4 AMRAAM, 2 ASRAAM), SEAD (6 ALARM, 4 AMRAAM, 2 ASRAAM) and maritime attack (4 Penguin, 4 AMRAAM, 2 ASRAAM). I'm sorry about the F-16 thing which I agree I was a mistake on my part as I read my information slightly wrong.
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you then go on to quote:
>The American JSF is a far better option, and thankfully >the Americans have offered it to us, and it will be >replacig our Harrier jump jets by 2010.
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but I thought there was no point in this as we don't need any new fighters as no one will challenge us from the air?
Also (now I don't mean any offence here) but how the hell is having a degree in Human geography a useful qualification. I may be missing something here, but it seems that there is little jobs for that kind of work.
TS
Merseyside.
Tequila Sunset wrote:
>Ok so the scouser and manchester accents sound really retarded but
> thats because they are retarded. there are many different american accents e.g
> Redneck and 'brooklyn' which are almost incomprehensible.
Oh hooray, yet more words of wisdom. Good news all, if you live in Manchester and Liverpool then you're retarded ! More English words of wisdom from Tequila Sunset. And I can understand all the American accents just fine thanks, and these two english ones you mention.
>Ok so the scouser and manchester accents sound really retarded but
> thats because they are retarded. there are many different american accents e.g
> Redneck and 'brooklyn' which are almost incomprehensible.
Oh hooray, yet more words of wisdom. Good news all, if you live in Manchester and Liverpool then you're retarded ! More English words of wisdom from Tequila Sunset. And I can understand all the American accents just fine thanks, and these two english ones you mention.
Tequila Sunset wrote:
>show how
> wonderfully tolerant we are as a nation to others.......
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Don't
> contradict yourself too much there
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HELLO ! Have you heard of sarcasm ?
>----
I was talking about the people that citizens protest against in
> this country. People coming in who really don't actually need to. This is shown
> by the thousands who try to 'sneak in' to the country every day through the
> channel tunnel.
So if they sneak into the country they dont belong here eh ? Another "brilliant" line of thought there. As unknown kernel has pointed out, and you have undoubtedly ignored, what a refugee is is entirely questionable.
>----
The F117 is a long range strategic bomber / nuclear delivery vehicle.
>
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I think I may have got the number wrong but I was talking about the
> stealth FIGHTER not bomber. And the RAF does have F16s in it's hangers.
Okay, you didnt get it wrong, just the facts, again. F117 was the first true stealth fighter, though it is in fact a bomber, it can carry AA arms but in a dogfight it would be dead. it ws classed as fighter because of the cold war days it was developed in. A look at the F117 profile shows that its designed for stealth and speed, not air combat. The B2 "spirit" bomber is a true stealth bomber but again it has limited AA capability. By the tie the B2 rolled off production the Cold War was over and the need for secrecy less/ The RAF has no F16 fighters whatsoever, and I challenge you to show me a sight that does. The only F16s that can be in this country are based at RAF Mildenhall and RAF Fairford which are American bases with entirely American squadrons based there. in short, we have no F16s as the Tornadoes fulfill the same role !
>show how
> wonderfully tolerant we are as a nation to others.......
----
Don't
> contradict yourself too much there
----
HELLO ! Have you heard of sarcasm ?
>----
I was talking about the people that citizens protest against in
> this country. People coming in who really don't actually need to. This is shown
> by the thousands who try to 'sneak in' to the country every day through the
> channel tunnel.
So if they sneak into the country they dont belong here eh ? Another "brilliant" line of thought there. As unknown kernel has pointed out, and you have undoubtedly ignored, what a refugee is is entirely questionable.
>----
The F117 is a long range strategic bomber / nuclear delivery vehicle.
>
----
I think I may have got the number wrong but I was talking about the
> stealth FIGHTER not bomber. And the RAF does have F16s in it's hangers.
Okay, you didnt get it wrong, just the facts, again. F117 was the first true stealth fighter, though it is in fact a bomber, it can carry AA arms but in a dogfight it would be dead. it ws classed as fighter because of the cold war days it was developed in. A look at the F117 profile shows that its designed for stealth and speed, not air combat. The B2 "spirit" bomber is a true stealth bomber but again it has limited AA capability. By the tie the B2 rolled off production the Cold War was over and the need for secrecy less/ The RAF has no F16 fighters whatsoever, and I challenge you to show me a sight that does. The only F16s that can be in this country are based at RAF Mildenhall and RAF Fairford which are American bases with entirely American squadrons based there. in short, we have no F16s as the Tornadoes fulfill the same role !
Wow this thread is starting to turn like one I found when I was looking for some missions to download for Operation Flashpoint. Rather than add comments about one mission, people from America and Europe have instead put down why Europe is the best and America is the worst. Its all got quite out of hand now, but if you want to check it out then here is the link:
http://www.flashpointcenter.com/downloads/missions.phtml? id=88493&language=en
http://www.flashpointcenter.com/downloads/missions.phtml? id=88493&language=en
Belldandy wrote:
4) Our accent ? You know how many dialects there is in England ? Which one do you mean..... America's accents all have the same basic "twang" to them, and are way better than some of the slang we have in this country - I find it so annoying when serving people at work who insist on using local slang which is nearly incomprehensible, and sounds retarded !
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Ok so the scouser and manchester accents sound really retarded but thats because they are retarded. there are many different american accents e.g Redneck and 'brooklyn' which are almost incomprehensible.
4) Our accent ? You know how many dialects there is in England ? Which one do you mean..... America's accents all have the same basic "twang" to them, and are way better than some of the slang we have in this country - I find it so annoying when serving people at work who insist on using local slang which is nearly incomprehensible, and sounds retarded !
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Ok so the scouser and manchester accents sound really retarded but thats because they are retarded. there are many different american accents e.g Redneck and 'brooklyn' which are almost incomprehensible.
Belldandy wrote:
And where did I say this ?? I think, at best, you have misunderstood something here.
>And you demonstrate my point about intolerance of people from other races and religions.
>show how wonderfully tolerant we are as a nation to others.......
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Don't contradict yourself too much there
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>A quote from Tequila Suinset everyone, from an earlier post, "* Not asylum seekers, econmic refugees, idiot.
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I was talking about the people that citizens protest against in this country. People coming in who really don't actually need to. This is shown by the thousands who try to 'sneak in' to the country every day through the channel tunnel.
Also when people get into this country they are given free money, food, housing etc. So how is this intolerant of different races/religions? We have several societies for different racial groups, most councils have mosques, synagogues etc built or give them a grant for it. There is huge support for ethnic minorities here, and definately more than the US.
----
The F117 is a long range strategic bomber / nuclear delivery vehicle.
----
I think I may have got the number wrong but I was talking about the stealth FIGHTER not bomber. And the RAF does have F16s in it's hangers.
And where did I say this ?? I think, at best, you have misunderstood something here.
>And you demonstrate my point about intolerance of people from other races and religions.
>show how wonderfully tolerant we are as a nation to others.......
----
Don't contradict yourself too much there
----
>A quote from Tequila Suinset everyone, from an earlier post, "* Not asylum seekers, econmic refugees, idiot.
----
I was talking about the people that citizens protest against in this country. People coming in who really don't actually need to. This is shown by the thousands who try to 'sneak in' to the country every day through the channel tunnel.
Also when people get into this country they are given free money, food, housing etc. So how is this intolerant of different races/religions? We have several societies for different racial groups, most councils have mosques, synagogues etc built or give them a grant for it. There is huge support for ethnic minorities here, and definately more than the US.
----
The F117 is a long range strategic bomber / nuclear delivery vehicle.
----
I think I may have got the number wrong but I was talking about the stealth FIGHTER not bomber. And the RAF does have F16s in it's hangers.
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