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Well, no doubt MS believed they got a bargain, but it is emerging that Nintendo offloaded them because of the failing quality of their work.
They spent 3 years developing Star Fox, and by all accounts, it's a linear piece of toss.
What was it? 5 quality games in 2 years?
HAAHHAAAHAAHA!
Seriously though, discuss...
They spent 3 years developing Star Fox, and by all accounts, it's a linear piece of toss.
What was it? 5 quality games in 2 years?
HAAHHAAAHAAHA!
Seriously though, discuss...
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I don't wanna get involved in this argument but I have to say Metroid is looking rather purty.
Even the PS2 guy on IGN who up until now hadn't taken the Cube serioulsy said it was reason enough to buy a Cube and one of the best games for a long time.
I can't wait!!!!!
Even the PS2 guy on IGN who up until now hadn't taken the Cube serioulsy said it was reason enough to buy a Cube and one of the best games for a long time.
I can't wait!!!!!
Whitestripes wrote:
> Then your a crazy fool!
It just never appealed to me, my favourite game on SNES was always Jurassic PArk, great game :) And Super Probotector, and Starfox, and the Mario's.
> And Metroid Prime in march :) Unless you don't like fun...
I will probably buy it, very little else out at the same time anyway. I don't doubt it will be good, just HOW good.
> umm...so lots of reviews by large internet games media, actual
> consumers opinions and American sales figures mean absolutley
> nothing?
I can show you similar for many many products that you would still dislike. Take Stuart Little 2, Scooby Doo films as just one of many examples possible.
> Just a quick question, what do you consider to be evidence of it's
> greatness?
Playing it, myself, at home, and still playing it a week later, having not removed it from the console for a week. That's true greatness, recent qualifiers have been Halo, Buffy, Conflict Desert Storm (PS2) Timesplitters 2 (GC), Waverace (GC) Pikmin (GC) and THPS3 (GC), and Perfect Dark and Goldeneye on N64. I never had an N64 but went out and bought one couple of months back to play some of the old games I wanted to have when I was younger.
>
> But by the time Halo 2 comes out, Metroid will have been out a
> year...
Halo 2 is scheduled for Q3 in USA, Q4 Europe, so you're looking at 10 months US, 6-8 Europe.
> Besides, I'll like it better because I prefer the FPS/Adventure style
> of MP, rather then the straight and tired FPS-ness of Halo.
Straight ? Have you played Halo all the way through ? I'm constantly amazed by how I manage to find the right way on the gigantic levels, Assault on the control room alone lasted ages, and the final three levels are amazing, so much to do, and see, and go.
> Belldandy wrote:
> "When it turns up in the UK, even if it does exceed Halo -
> doubtful - then the Xbox exclusive Halo 2, with online play, will be a
> mere 7 months away, and far better."
Far better because of online play was what I intended to say, oops :)
> Yup, besides, I'm better than you, I have more wavy things :)
>
> ~~~Whitestripes~~~
~~~~Belldandy~~~~
PS, what is Maverick on about the Wavebird being on the way for ? It's out...
> Then your a crazy fool!
It just never appealed to me, my favourite game on SNES was always Jurassic PArk, great game :) And Super Probotector, and Starfox, and the Mario's.
> And Metroid Prime in march :) Unless you don't like fun...
I will probably buy it, very little else out at the same time anyway. I don't doubt it will be good, just HOW good.
> umm...so lots of reviews by large internet games media, actual
> consumers opinions and American sales figures mean absolutley
> nothing?
I can show you similar for many many products that you would still dislike. Take Stuart Little 2, Scooby Doo films as just one of many examples possible.
> Just a quick question, what do you consider to be evidence of it's
> greatness?
Playing it, myself, at home, and still playing it a week later, having not removed it from the console for a week. That's true greatness, recent qualifiers have been Halo, Buffy, Conflict Desert Storm (PS2) Timesplitters 2 (GC), Waverace (GC) Pikmin (GC) and THPS3 (GC), and Perfect Dark and Goldeneye on N64. I never had an N64 but went out and bought one couple of months back to play some of the old games I wanted to have when I was younger.
>
> But by the time Halo 2 comes out, Metroid will have been out a
> year...
Halo 2 is scheduled for Q3 in USA, Q4 Europe, so you're looking at 10 months US, 6-8 Europe.
> Besides, I'll like it better because I prefer the FPS/Adventure style
> of MP, rather then the straight and tired FPS-ness of Halo.
Straight ? Have you played Halo all the way through ? I'm constantly amazed by how I manage to find the right way on the gigantic levels, Assault on the control room alone lasted ages, and the final three levels are amazing, so much to do, and see, and go.
> Belldandy wrote:
> "When it turns up in the UK, even if it does exceed Halo -
> doubtful - then the Xbox exclusive Halo 2, with online play, will be a
> mere 7 months away, and far better."
Far better because of online play was what I intended to say, oops :)
> Yup, besides, I'm better than you, I have more wavy things :)
>
> ~~~Whitestripes~~~
~~~~Belldandy~~~~
PS, what is Maverick on about the Wavebird being on the way for ? It's out...
gamezfreak wrote:
> Gamecube is excellent, If I had the money i'd have an Xbox and a
> Gamecube, but i'm focusing on Xbox for now. Although I do think
> Nintendo have pretty much neglected the console ever since the launch
> of it.
This is something GameCube owners in Europe are getting pretty annoyed about. Sure, Nintendo have provided us with a shedload of games - but now they have to tell people about it!
There's Microsoft, swimming in money, after frequent price drops, bundles, and the purchase of a new developer (Rare) all in the media with blitz advertising schemes too - and they're raking in the sales. Then there's Nintendo... *coughs*
But the future looks bright. The Waverbird's out soon, advertising is becoming more common, Nintendo HAVE to combat MS + Sony with a price drop soon and then there's their online plans that Microsoft are apparently very worried about...
> Gamecube is excellent, If I had the money i'd have an Xbox and a
> Gamecube, but i'm focusing on Xbox for now. Although I do think
> Nintendo have pretty much neglected the console ever since the launch
> of it.
This is something GameCube owners in Europe are getting pretty annoyed about. Sure, Nintendo have provided us with a shedload of games - but now they have to tell people about it!
There's Microsoft, swimming in money, after frequent price drops, bundles, and the purchase of a new developer (Rare) all in the media with blitz advertising schemes too - and they're raking in the sales. Then there's Nintendo... *coughs*
But the future looks bright. The Waverbird's out soon, advertising is becoming more common, Nintendo HAVE to combat MS + Sony with a price drop soon and then there's their online plans that Microsoft are apparently very worried about...
Silent85 wrote:
> Maverik stop winging because they left you. I am sorry but come on you
> were loving PD so please lets be fair
Not exactly. I thought Perfect Dark was a real letdown - hence my not buying it.
> If they hadn't left and still were loving nintendo you wouldn't be
> saying that
Look - I just presented the facts, and said to keep an open mind. Hell, I liked Starfox too, which many people hate. What more do you want for crying out loud?
> Maverik stop winging because they left you. I am sorry but come on you
> were loving PD so please lets be fair
Not exactly. I thought Perfect Dark was a real letdown - hence my not buying it.
> If they hadn't left and still were loving nintendo you wouldn't be
> saying that
Look - I just presented the facts, and said to keep an open mind. Hell, I liked Starfox too, which many people hate. What more do you want for crying out loud?
Belldandy wrote:
> Whitestripes wrote:
> It's a different game! Have you plaued Super Metroid? If not, I
> strongly advise you download ZSNES and download the ROM for it, now
> Imagine it in full 3D.
> ****
> Yes, had it on day of release, came in a large box with a guide book
> didn't it ? It was good, but I never saw the attraction of it.
Then your a crazy fool!
Or you have no taste :)
Or you were crap at it :)
For me,
> the olny FPS games to totally engross me have been all the Rainbow Six
> games in PC, Operation Flashpoint on PC, Medal Of Honour Frontline on
> PS2 and Halo on Xbox.
And Metroid Prime in march :) Unless you don't like fun...
>
>
> And this Halo/Metroid Prime thing, you started it! A topic about
> Starfox Adventures, and suddenly you come in and start spouting crap
> about how we all know Metroid Prime is so much better than Halo!
> ***
> As for the last two
> sentences there, I'm not sure exactly what your trying tosay. Crap
> is
> it? I haven't said anythings crap...
> ****
> You said I was spouting crap about Halo 2 and Metroid, go read what
> you put ! Anyway, my point is that we're assuming Metroid is the best
> game ever based on nothing more than online reviews, a few people who
> have imports, and American press reviews,
umm...so lots of reviews by large internet games media, actual consumers opinions and American sales figures mean absolutley nothing?
Just a quick question, what do you consider to be evidence of it's greatness?
A national holiday every year to celebrate it's release?
and that comparing it to
> Halo is a bit easy because Halo is a 1 year old game in the USA. The
> real challenge is going to be can Metroid beat Halo 2 ? FPS games are
> rather short on the GC so Metroid, against little competion, is bound
> to score well, but as Starfox has shown, review scores aren't always
> true...
> *****
But by the time Halo 2 comes out, Metroid will have been out a year...
Besides, I'll like it better because I prefer the FPS/Adventure style of MP, rather then the straight and tired FPS-ness of Halo.
> Of course that doesn't stop you saying Halo 2 is going to be the
> best
> game ever, have you played it? No.
> ****
> Show me where I say this....
>
Belldandy wrote:
"When it turns up in the UK, even if it does exceed Halo - doubtful - then the Xbox exclusive Halo 2, with online play, will be a mere 7 months away, and far better."
> No hard feelings eh? If I've learned one thing from the internet
> it's
> that it's very easy to mis-interpret/understand what someone else is
> trying to say.
> ****
> Indeed :)
>
> ~~Belldandy~~
Yup, besides, I'm better than you, I have more wavy things :)
~~~Whitestripes~~~
> Whitestripes wrote:
> It's a different game! Have you plaued Super Metroid? If not, I
> strongly advise you download ZSNES and download the ROM for it, now
> Imagine it in full 3D.
> ****
> Yes, had it on day of release, came in a large box with a guide book
> didn't it ? It was good, but I never saw the attraction of it.
Then your a crazy fool!
Or you have no taste :)
Or you were crap at it :)
For me,
> the olny FPS games to totally engross me have been all the Rainbow Six
> games in PC, Operation Flashpoint on PC, Medal Of Honour Frontline on
> PS2 and Halo on Xbox.
And Metroid Prime in march :) Unless you don't like fun...
>
>
> And this Halo/Metroid Prime thing, you started it! A topic about
> Starfox Adventures, and suddenly you come in and start spouting crap
> about how we all know Metroid Prime is so much better than Halo!
> ***
> As for the last two
> sentences there, I'm not sure exactly what your trying tosay. Crap
> is
> it? I haven't said anythings crap...
> ****
> You said I was spouting crap about Halo 2 and Metroid, go read what
> you put ! Anyway, my point is that we're assuming Metroid is the best
> game ever based on nothing more than online reviews, a few people who
> have imports, and American press reviews,
umm...so lots of reviews by large internet games media, actual consumers opinions and American sales figures mean absolutley nothing?
Just a quick question, what do you consider to be evidence of it's greatness?
A national holiday every year to celebrate it's release?
and that comparing it to
> Halo is a bit easy because Halo is a 1 year old game in the USA. The
> real challenge is going to be can Metroid beat Halo 2 ? FPS games are
> rather short on the GC so Metroid, against little competion, is bound
> to score well, but as Starfox has shown, review scores aren't always
> true...
> *****
But by the time Halo 2 comes out, Metroid will have been out a year...
Besides, I'll like it better because I prefer the FPS/Adventure style of MP, rather then the straight and tired FPS-ness of Halo.
> Of course that doesn't stop you saying Halo 2 is going to be the
> best
> game ever, have you played it? No.
> ****
> Show me where I say this....
>
Belldandy wrote:
"When it turns up in the UK, even if it does exceed Halo - doubtful - then the Xbox exclusive Halo 2, with online play, will be a mere 7 months away, and far better."
> No hard feelings eh? If I've learned one thing from the internet
> it's
> that it's very easy to mis-interpret/understand what someone else is
> trying to say.
> ****
> Indeed :)
>
> ~~Belldandy~~
Yup, besides, I'm better than you, I have more wavy things :)
~~~Whitestripes~~~
gamezfreak wrote:
Although I do think
> Nintendo have pretty much neglected the console ever since the launch
> of it.
>
I wouldn't call about 20 games in the space of a year negleting...
Although I do think
> Nintendo have pretty much neglected the console ever since the launch
> of it.
>
I wouldn't call about 20 games in the space of a year negleting...
Whitestripes wrote:
> It's a different game! Have you plaued Super Metroid? If not, I
> strongly advise you download ZSNES and download the ROM for it, now
> Imagine it in full 3D.
Yes, had it on day of release, came in a large box with a guide book didn't it ? It was good, but I never saw the attraction of it. For me, the olny FPS games to totally engross me have been all the Rainbow Six games in PC, Operation Flashpoint on PC, Medal Of Honour Frontline on PS2 and Halo on Xbox.
> And this Halo/Metroid Prime thing, you started it! A topic about
> Starfox Adventures, and suddenly you come in and start spouting crap
> about how we all know Metroid Prime is so much better than Halo!
> As for the last two
> sentences there, I'm not sure exactly what your trying tosay. Crap is
> it? I haven't said anythings crap...
You said I was spouting crap about Halo 2 and Metroid, go read what you put ! Anyway, my point is that we're assuming Metroid is the best game ever based on nothing more than online reviews, a few people who have imports, and American press reviews, and that comparing it to Halo is a bit easy because Halo is a 1 year old game in the USA. The real challenge is going to be can Metroid beat Halo 2 ? FPS games are rather short on the GC so Metroid, against little competion, is bound to score well, but as Starfox has shown, review scores aren't always true...
> Of course that doesn't stop you saying Halo 2 is going to be the
> best
> game ever, have you played it? No.
Show me where I say this....
> No hard feelings eh? If I've learned one thing from the internet it's
> that it's very easy to mis-interpret/understand what someone else is
> trying to say.
Indeed :)
~~Belldandy~~
> It's a different game! Have you plaued Super Metroid? If not, I
> strongly advise you download ZSNES and download the ROM for it, now
> Imagine it in full 3D.
Yes, had it on day of release, came in a large box with a guide book didn't it ? It was good, but I never saw the attraction of it. For me, the olny FPS games to totally engross me have been all the Rainbow Six games in PC, Operation Flashpoint on PC, Medal Of Honour Frontline on PS2 and Halo on Xbox.
> And this Halo/Metroid Prime thing, you started it! A topic about
> Starfox Adventures, and suddenly you come in and start spouting crap
> about how we all know Metroid Prime is so much better than Halo!
> As for the last two
> sentences there, I'm not sure exactly what your trying tosay. Crap is
> it? I haven't said anythings crap...
You said I was spouting crap about Halo 2 and Metroid, go read what you put ! Anyway, my point is that we're assuming Metroid is the best game ever based on nothing more than online reviews, a few people who have imports, and American press reviews, and that comparing it to Halo is a bit easy because Halo is a 1 year old game in the USA. The real challenge is going to be can Metroid beat Halo 2 ? FPS games are rather short on the GC so Metroid, against little competion, is bound to score well, but as Starfox has shown, review scores aren't always true...
> Of course that doesn't stop you saying Halo 2 is going to be the
> best
> game ever, have you played it? No.
Show me where I say this....
> No hard feelings eh? If I've learned one thing from the internet it's
> that it's very easy to mis-interpret/understand what someone else is
> trying to say.
Indeed :)
~~Belldandy~~
phi11ip wrote:
> Again, another one of your one line classics!
Rofl, Silent looks like you have gained a cult status.
Gamecube is excellent, If I had the money i'd have an Xbox and a Gamecube, but i'm focusing on Xbox for now. Although I do think Nintendo have pretty much neglected the console ever since the launch of it.
Pikmin is fun same as the other games that were out on release, Mario Sunshine is good, No Mario 64 though.
Still Rare my have fecked up a little on Starfox, We'll have to see what happens.
> Again, another one of your one line classics!
Rofl, Silent looks like you have gained a cult status.
Gamecube is excellent, If I had the money i'd have an Xbox and a Gamecube, but i'm focusing on Xbox for now. Although I do think Nintendo have pretty much neglected the console ever since the launch of it.
Pikmin is fun same as the other games that were out on release, Mario Sunshine is good, No Mario 64 though.
Still Rare my have fecked up a little on Starfox, We'll have to see what happens.
Silent85 wrote:
> Maverik stop winging because they left you. I am sorry but come on you
> were loving PD so please lets be fair
>
>
>
> If they hadn't left and still were loving nintendo you wouldn't be
> saying that
Most probably yes...
When a game from a developer wheich everyone has faith in turns out to be completely rubbish, you've gotta worry!
People have been doubting Rare for ages after they had loads of people leave/join the company...
Again, another one of your one line classics!
> Maverik stop winging because they left you. I am sorry but come on you
> were loving PD so please lets be fair
>
>
>
> If they hadn't left and still were loving nintendo you wouldn't be
> saying that
Most probably yes...
When a game from a developer wheich everyone has faith in turns out to be completely rubbish, you've gotta worry!
People have been doubting Rare for ages after they had loads of people leave/join the company...
Again, another one of your one line classics!
*done nothing but constantly slate the GC
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