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Tue 05/03/02 at 12:44
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Posts: 787
Has anyone else got fed up with seeing the same old broken down guys on WWF shows.

Undertaker is well past his sell by date, he can barely execute a move and has his act reduced to a few punches a kick and a sleepervariation. This guy used to be a legend now he's a joke.

Stonecold was once the man, okay Owne Hart didn't help his career with abadly executed piledriver, but Austins knees have gone and he can not even perform a stunner the way he used to.

The Rock is the Hogan for the 90s an beyond, a three move wonder (kip up, rock bottom and peoples elbow) he makes hogans leg drop look convincing.

Why not put these guiys out to pasture Vince?

Bring Van Dam and co up to the title chase, we all know thye can do it.

No you bring in three ex-legends and automatically put them in the otp slots.

Hall is a shadow of his former self , the years of abuse taking their toal both physically and i am sure mentally.

Hogan looks more in need of a shave and bath than the tramp outside my building, at least give him a shave Vince, then maybe teach him how to do anything except the Legdrop of Doom TM!!

Nash is maybe the better of the three he at least looks in some sort of shape although he is likel y to return to his old WCW non-caring days very soon.

To me the WWF looks like it is going under not making a positive move to finally seperate the company and give the undercarders a chance to get some well earned tv exposure.
Tue 05/03/02 at 19:14
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Posts: 5,135
Hey Ant ain't the only one who likes Jerichos style, i do, im a big fan of Y2J and i hes great as a heel. The Rock and Stone Cold didn't get really boring but it was time to change the story.

Now to Y2J's moves:

like Ant said: Lionsault, Missile dropkick, Breakdown, Walls Of Jericho, powerbomb, overhead suplex, backdrop suplex, flying clothesline (standing and off the top rope), flying elbow (top rope and standing), knife-edge chops, bulldog, moonsault, Enziguri kick.

Now a few more: Double Powerbomb, Walls of Jericho on top of ladder (classique move, don't you agree Ant?), Neckbreaker he has loads much more than The Rock or Stone Cold

But don't get me wrong i like The Rock and Stone Cold and not saying they are c*ap but Jericho is younger and can do more athletic moves.
Tue 05/03/02 at 18:39
Regular
"Back in black"
Posts: 5,486
Ant wrote:
> AfroJoe wrote:
> Ah, shut up about Chris Jericho!

You're about the only
> person on the Forums
> that actually likes the way he does anything, little
> p***k! (Jericho, that
> is.)


Actually, Cong Man likes him too, and
> considering our opinion is obviously the same as the WWF's then surely we are
> right. He's got so much more variety than Austin or Rock, and you surely can't
> argue that any of his matches against Benoit or his match against Angle on Raw
> looked great.

LOL- Jericho is crap, he is boring and dire. The WWF gave him a chance, he failed to entertain so Trips is going to take the title at Wrestlemania! End of story!


Anyway, I think if you actually watched a match, you'll find
> that The
> Rock has about 10 moves. Let's count. Rock Bottom, People's
> Elbow, Sharpshooter,
> Spine Buster, Powerslam, Belly to Belly, DDT, and
> possibly a few more, not
> 2.

I've never seen him do a powerslam. Also,
> the Sharpshooter is total crap, especially compared to the inventor's version.
> And 10, oooooohh, wow!!

Lets count Jericho's: Lionsault, Missile dropkick,
> Breakdown, Walls Of Jericho, powerbomb, overhead suplex, backdrop suplex, flying
> clothesline (standing and off the top rope), flying elbow (top rope and
> standing), knife-edge chops, bulldog, moonsault, Enziguri kick and many
> more.
When was the last time he did that stupid dropkick and them knife edge chops?What on the hell is a breakdown. Overhead suplex- lol are you kidding me, about every wrestler will pull of one of those! Face it Ant- Jericho hasn't got more moves than everyone!

You see? He has so many more moves than Austin, Rock or most other
> wrestlers.
No I don't!
Tue 05/03/02 at 18:33
Regular
"I like cheese"
Posts: 16,918
AfroJoe wrote:
> Ah, shut up about Chris Jericho!

You're about the only person on the Forums
> that actually likes the way he does anything, little p***k! (Jericho, that
> is.)


Actually, Cong Man likes him too, and considering our opinion is obviously the same as the WWF's then surely we are right. He's got so much more variety than Austin or Rock, and you surely can't argue that any of his matches against Benoit or his match against Angle on Raw looked great.


Anyway, I think if you actually watched a match, you'll find that The
> Rock has about 10 moves. Let's count. Rock Bottom, People's Elbow, Sharpshooter,
> Spine Buster, Powerslam, Belly to Belly, DDT, and possibly a few more, not
> 2.

I've never seen him do a powerslam. Also, the Sharpshooter is total crap, especially compared to the inventor's version. And 10, oooooohh, wow!!

Lets count Jericho's: Lionsault, Missile dropkick, Breakdown, Walls Of Jericho, powerbomb, overhead suplex, backdrop suplex, flying clothesline (standing and off the top rope), flying elbow (top rope and standing), knife-edge chops, bulldog, moonsault, Enziguri kick and many more.

You see? He has so many more moves than Austin, Rock or most other wrestlers.
Tue 05/03/02 at 18:26
Regular
"Back in black"
Posts: 5,486
Ant wrote:
> Very true, I completely agree.

I'm glad the WWF has brought Chris Jericho
> into the frey, because Austin and Rock was getting very dull.

LOL- im not. And what moves does Jericho have?
Tue 05/03/02 at 18:16
Regular
"sdomehtongng"
Posts: 23,695
Ah, shut up about Chris Jericho!

You're about the only person on the Forums that actually likes the way he does anything, little p***k! (Jericho, that is.)

Anyway, I think if you actually watched a match, you'll find that The Rock has about 10 moves. Let's count. Rock Bottom, People's Elbow, Sharpshooter, Spine Buster, Powerslam, Belly to Belly, DDT, and possibly a few more, not 2.

I agree about the nWo, and Taker who are a little past it these day, and that RVD will be a vital part of the WWF in the future.
Tue 05/03/02 at 18:05
Regular
"I like cheese"
Posts: 16,918
Very true, I completely agree.

I'm glad the WWF has brought Chris Jericho into the frey, because Austin and Rock was getting very dull.
Tue 05/03/02 at 12:44
Posts: 0
Has anyone else got fed up with seeing the same old broken down guys on WWF shows.

Undertaker is well past his sell by date, he can barely execute a move and has his act reduced to a few punches a kick and a sleepervariation. This guy used to be a legend now he's a joke.

Stonecold was once the man, okay Owne Hart didn't help his career with abadly executed piledriver, but Austins knees have gone and he can not even perform a stunner the way he used to.

The Rock is the Hogan for the 90s an beyond, a three move wonder (kip up, rock bottom and peoples elbow) he makes hogans leg drop look convincing.

Why not put these guiys out to pasture Vince?

Bring Van Dam and co up to the title chase, we all know thye can do it.

No you bring in three ex-legends and automatically put them in the otp slots.

Hall is a shadow of his former self , the years of abuse taking their toal both physically and i am sure mentally.

Hogan looks more in need of a shave and bath than the tramp outside my building, at least give him a shave Vince, then maybe teach him how to do anything except the Legdrop of Doom TM!!

Nash is maybe the better of the three he at least looks in some sort of shape although he is likel y to return to his old WCW non-caring days very soon.

To me the WWF looks like it is going under not making a positive move to finally seperate the company and give the undercarders a chance to get some well earned tv exposure.

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