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Has anyone else got fed up with seeing the same old broken down guys on WWF shows.
Undertaker is well past his sell by date, he can barely execute a move and has his act reduced to a few punches a kick and a sleepervariation. This guy used to be a legend now he's a joke.
Stonecold was once the man, okay Owne Hart didn't help his career with abadly executed piledriver, but Austins knees have gone and he can not even perform a stunner the way he used to.
The Rock is the Hogan for the 90s an beyond, a three move wonder (kip up, rock bottom and peoples elbow) he makes hogans leg drop look convincing.
Why not put these guiys out to pasture Vince?
Bring Van Dam and co up to the title chase, we all know thye can do it.
No you bring in three ex-legends and automatically put them in the otp slots.
Hall is a shadow of his former self , the years of abuse taking their toal both physically and i am sure mentally.
Hogan looks more in need of a shave and bath than the tramp outside my building, at least give him a shave Vince, then maybe teach him how to do anything except the Legdrop of Doom TM!!
Nash is maybe the better of the three he at least looks in some sort of shape although he is likel y to return to his old WCW non-caring days very soon.
To me the WWF looks like it is going under not making a positive move to finally seperate the company and give the undercarders a chance to get some well earned tv exposure.
Undertaker is well past his sell by date, he can barely execute a move and has his act reduced to a few punches a kick and a sleepervariation. This guy used to be a legend now he's a joke.
Stonecold was once the man, okay Owne Hart didn't help his career with abadly executed piledriver, but Austins knees have gone and he can not even perform a stunner the way he used to.
The Rock is the Hogan for the 90s an beyond, a three move wonder (kip up, rock bottom and peoples elbow) he makes hogans leg drop look convincing.
Why not put these guiys out to pasture Vince?
Bring Van Dam and co up to the title chase, we all know thye can do it.
No you bring in three ex-legends and automatically put them in the otp slots.
Hall is a shadow of his former self , the years of abuse taking their toal both physically and i am sure mentally.
Hogan looks more in need of a shave and bath than the tramp outside my building, at least give him a shave Vince, then maybe teach him how to do anything except the Legdrop of Doom TM!!
Nash is maybe the better of the three he at least looks in some sort of shape although he is likel y to return to his old WCW non-caring days very soon.
To me the WWF looks like it is going under not making a positive move to finally seperate the company and give the undercarders a chance to get some well earned tv exposure.
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LOL!
Let's hope Tazz (SR Tazz) doesn't hear us talking about his favourite guy
Let's hope Tazz (SR Tazz) doesn't hear us talking about his favourite guy
AfroJoe wrote:
> If Tazz gets any more Low Blows, his balls will be in his mouth of something.
> :D
Judging by his cheeks, they already are. :D
> If Tazz gets any more Low Blows, his balls will be in his mouth of something.
> :D
Judging by his cheeks, they already are. :D
Ant wrote:
> AfroJoe wrote:
> IB is right, Jericho was actually good to watch when he was
> a face. I didn't
> like him too much but he was a good wrestler.
Now, can
> he actually do
> anything in the ring that doesn't involve cheating? Now I
> am being a bit
> sarcastic there, but when did you last see him win a match
> with a clean
> victory?
???
Against Kurt Angle he technically didn't
> cheat. Nor against Austin, where that was thanks to the nWo.
He beat Maven
> with ease, and he used a low blow on Tazz. Boo-hoo, who doesn't?
---
Well, almost every match then. But Maven isn't exactly hard competition, nor is Tazz, they way the WWF have him wrestler. He would be in ECW.
> AfroJoe wrote:
> IB is right, Jericho was actually good to watch when he was
> a face. I didn't
> like him too much but he was a good wrestler.
Now, can
> he actually do
> anything in the ring that doesn't involve cheating? Now I
> am being a bit
> sarcastic there, but when did you last see him win a match
> with a clean
> victory?
???
Against Kurt Angle he technically didn't
> cheat. Nor against Austin, where that was thanks to the nWo.
He beat Maven
> with ease, and he used a low blow on Tazz. Boo-hoo, who doesn't?
---
Well, almost every match then. But Maven isn't exactly hard competition, nor is Tazz, they way the WWF have him wrestler. He would be in ECW.
or something rather.
If Tazz gets any more Low Blows, his balls will be in his mouth of something. :D
AfroJoe wrote:
> IB is right, Jericho was actually good to watch when he was a face. I didn't
> like him too much but he was a good wrestler.
Now, can he actually do
> anything in the ring that doesn't involve cheating? Now I am being a bit
> sarcastic there, but when did you last see him win a match with a clean
> victory?
???
Against Kurt Angle he technically didn't cheat. Nor against Austin, where that was thanks to the nWo.
He beat Maven with ease, and he used a low blow on Tazz. Boo-hoo, who doesn't?
> IB is right, Jericho was actually good to watch when he was a face. I didn't
> like him too much but he was a good wrestler.
Now, can he actually do
> anything in the ring that doesn't involve cheating? Now I am being a bit
> sarcastic there, but when did you last see him win a match with a clean
> victory?
???
Against Kurt Angle he technically didn't cheat. Nor against Austin, where that was thanks to the nWo.
He beat Maven with ease, and he used a low blow on Tazz. Boo-hoo, who doesn't?
Starlight wrote:
> No, no, no. It's not Jericho that sucks it's his character, he is being forced
> to do basically rubbish endings to mathes, he seems to be the guy who takes the
> moves and not pull out any himself.
-----
^ What I've said many a time.
-----
You know the regular heel 'Squirms about
> feeding his ego then runs behind the safety of other people until is cornered
> and beat up' failing that it's the he wins because he outnumbers you with three
> other people story.
-----
Yes, but doesn't Jericho just use his title and smack people with it to cap off a boring match?
-----
Oh and yeah Jericho dosn't do the double powerbomb
> anymore, last time I remember that was about No Way Out 2000. (I think he found
> it hard to pull off, no? Especially now Y2J fights the bigger heavier
> guys).
-----
What I said, but I only said "my ass" because Ant put it on his moves list.
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I do think Jericho is boring, I suppose it's not his fault
> but he just dosn't entertain like he used to (I'm talking really early WWF days
> here) he only ever used to get popularity of scoring of Stephanie Mcmahon with
> blantantly rubbish prostitiute jokes.
-----
What I've said loads of times.
-----
Jericho has the moves, he just don't
> use them.
-----
See what I said last.
-----
As for the Rock being boring, excuse me you must be joking! Could
> you entertain like he could? Could you.....no you couldn't. :0) One thing I
> will admit with the Rock is that he's due a hell turn and the WWF have played
> with his character going up and down both lanes for a while now. Rock needs to
> do some 'mean streaks' and be involved in more gimmick matches, they only give
> him your 'usual' rules WWF match because he can still perform good in one,
> unlike people like say Undertaker who needs a gimmick match to keep people
> interested.
-----
What I've said also. The Rock isn't boring. He is one of the best for entertaining in the business. Also, the only people I feel wrestle better than him are Benoit, Angle, RVD, Eddie Gurrerro (even though he is gone) and Kane. (Sometimes)
-----
Oh and whoever it was who said that the WWF looks like it's going
> to decline unless something is done, are you mad? You can't honestly believe
> the WWF will fall that's umm crazy talk my friend. Sure it can loose ratings
> for a while due to lack of interesting storylines but it won't go down. It's
> always in the top listings for 'most watched show' or whatever it's
> called.
-----
Yeah, even no matter how bad the WWf can get, it'll still get many millions of viewers. I agree there.
-----
While I'm at it what's with this stealing of your opponents finishing
> move? Now that I don't like.
-----
Who stole what finisher?
-----
The nWo is all characterised, so far it's ok, I
> can't see Hulk doing much in his match against Rock at WM 18 and you'll all say
> the Rock is rubbish. Why you *shakes fist
-----
:D I agree.
-----
Anyway the WWF split will be upon
> us soon so lots of variation will be in the programmes so all should be
> good.
-----
I want to see if this split is good also, or if it is a failure.
-----
Starlight - Defender of WWF
-----
Yeah, true.
-----
I'm not trying to get into an argument with any of you and I'm sorry if some people (Ant, Cong, a few others) got annoyed, but I don't like the way Jericho does what he is doing in the WWF and I don't know how you can call Rock boring, but, let's just leave it at that. Sorry guys. :D
Jericho sucks!
*Runs away*
> No, no, no. It's not Jericho that sucks it's his character, he is being forced
> to do basically rubbish endings to mathes, he seems to be the guy who takes the
> moves and not pull out any himself.
-----
^ What I've said many a time.
-----
You know the regular heel 'Squirms about
> feeding his ego then runs behind the safety of other people until is cornered
> and beat up' failing that it's the he wins because he outnumbers you with three
> other people story.
-----
Yes, but doesn't Jericho just use his title and smack people with it to cap off a boring match?
-----
Oh and yeah Jericho dosn't do the double powerbomb
> anymore, last time I remember that was about No Way Out 2000. (I think he found
> it hard to pull off, no? Especially now Y2J fights the bigger heavier
> guys).
-----
What I said, but I only said "my ass" because Ant put it on his moves list.
-----
I do think Jericho is boring, I suppose it's not his fault
> but he just dosn't entertain like he used to (I'm talking really early WWF days
> here) he only ever used to get popularity of scoring of Stephanie Mcmahon with
> blantantly rubbish prostitiute jokes.
-----
What I've said loads of times.
-----
Jericho has the moves, he just don't
> use them.
-----
See what I said last.
-----
As for the Rock being boring, excuse me you must be joking! Could
> you entertain like he could? Could you.....no you couldn't. :0) One thing I
> will admit with the Rock is that he's due a hell turn and the WWF have played
> with his character going up and down both lanes for a while now. Rock needs to
> do some 'mean streaks' and be involved in more gimmick matches, they only give
> him your 'usual' rules WWF match because he can still perform good in one,
> unlike people like say Undertaker who needs a gimmick match to keep people
> interested.
-----
What I've said also. The Rock isn't boring. He is one of the best for entertaining in the business. Also, the only people I feel wrestle better than him are Benoit, Angle, RVD, Eddie Gurrerro (even though he is gone) and Kane. (Sometimes)
-----
Oh and whoever it was who said that the WWF looks like it's going
> to decline unless something is done, are you mad? You can't honestly believe
> the WWF will fall that's umm crazy talk my friend. Sure it can loose ratings
> for a while due to lack of interesting storylines but it won't go down. It's
> always in the top listings for 'most watched show' or whatever it's
> called.
-----
Yeah, even no matter how bad the WWf can get, it'll still get many millions of viewers. I agree there.
-----
While I'm at it what's with this stealing of your opponents finishing
> move? Now that I don't like.
-----
Who stole what finisher?
-----
The nWo is all characterised, so far it's ok, I
> can't see Hulk doing much in his match against Rock at WM 18 and you'll all say
> the Rock is rubbish. Why you *shakes fist
-----
:D I agree.
-----
Anyway the WWF split will be upon
> us soon so lots of variation will be in the programmes so all should be
> good.
-----
I want to see if this split is good also, or if it is a failure.
-----
Starlight - Defender of WWF
-----
Yeah, true.
-----
I'm not trying to get into an argument with any of you and I'm sorry if some people (Ant, Cong, a few others) got annoyed, but I don't like the way Jericho does what he is doing in the WWF and I don't know how you can call Rock boring, but, let's just leave it at that. Sorry guys. :D
Jericho sucks!
*Runs away*
IB is right, Jericho was actually good to watch when he was a face. I didn't like him too much but he was a good wrestler.
Now, can he actually do anything in the ring that doesn't involve cheating? Now I am being a bit sarcastic there, but when did you last see him win a match with a clean victory?
???
Now, can he actually do anything in the ring that doesn't involve cheating? Now I am being a bit sarcastic there, but when did you last see him win a match with a clean victory?
???
Heh.
Jericho as a face.
He was new, he was fresh, he cut fantastic promo's and he entertained. Jericho and Benoit had some outstanding battles- no one can disagree...
Then it changed...
Jericho as a heel.
Jericho had devleoped a style that everyone loved, he was doing well as a face, then the WWF ruined it and changed him. He was a face, but with characteristics of a heel. Those characteristics developed and became un-intresting. Cheating and poor matche endings. Nothing new here, we have seen it all before. This is a new Jericho. He has the same moves as before, but he cannot be put in a match and win clean and he can cut intresting promo's. I hate the new Jericho style.
The WWF is to blame, not Chris Irvine, as a bloke he is cool and as a face, Jericho ruled- as a hell he just down-right sucks. AND THAT@S WHAT THE WWF WANT! It just don't cut it for me though!
Jericho as a face.
He was new, he was fresh, he cut fantastic promo's and he entertained. Jericho and Benoit had some outstanding battles- no one can disagree...
Then it changed...
Jericho as a heel.
Jericho had devleoped a style that everyone loved, he was doing well as a face, then the WWF ruined it and changed him. He was a face, but with characteristics of a heel. Those characteristics developed and became un-intresting. Cheating and poor matche endings. Nothing new here, we have seen it all before. This is a new Jericho. He has the same moves as before, but he cannot be put in a match and win clean and he can cut intresting promo's. I hate the new Jericho style.
The WWF is to blame, not Chris Irvine, as a bloke he is cool and as a face, Jericho ruled- as a hell he just down-right sucks. AND THAT@S WHAT THE WWF WANT! It just don't cut it for me though!
Starlight wrote:
As for the Rock being boring, excuse me you must be joking! Could
> you entertain like he could? Could you.....no you couldn't. :0) One thing I
> will admit with the Rock is that he's due a hell turn and the WWF have played
> with his character going up and down both lanes for a while now. Rock needs to
> do some 'mean streaks' and be involved in more gimmick matches, they only give
> him your 'usual' rules WWF match because he can still perform good in one,
> unlike people like say Undertaker who needs a gimmick match to keep people
> interested.
Rock, entertaining? You must be kidding me? He's the only wrestler in the world who wrestles every match exactly the same. I don't even find his interviews amuisng. " Pie...Strudel Can You Smellllllll? Etc it's just utter, utter drivel. AND...it's easy to be electrifying when you are allowed to act superhuman every match by taking everything your opponent has to offer and then suddenly, one kip-up later and you're back to full healt. Sorry, I just refuse to buy into it.
Starlight - Defender of WWF
As for the Rock being boring, excuse me you must be joking! Could
> you entertain like he could? Could you.....no you couldn't. :0) One thing I
> will admit with the Rock is that he's due a hell turn and the WWF have played
> with his character going up and down both lanes for a while now. Rock needs to
> do some 'mean streaks' and be involved in more gimmick matches, they only give
> him your 'usual' rules WWF match because he can still perform good in one,
> unlike people like say Undertaker who needs a gimmick match to keep people
> interested.
Rock, entertaining? You must be kidding me? He's the only wrestler in the world who wrestles every match exactly the same. I don't even find his interviews amuisng. " Pie...Strudel Can You Smellllllll? Etc it's just utter, utter drivel. AND...it's easy to be
Starlight - Defender of WWF
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