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Sat 23/09/00 at 13:32
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Ther's been at least 5 Tomb Raiders already, a couple of ridge racers, a load of FIFA games that are almost identical and even more sequels coming out soon.
What I'm trying to say is won't someone bring out something fresh and new nobody has tried.
Take examples of Deus Ex(a good mix of shooting and RPG exploring)
Vib ribbon (strange but addictive) and what about The Sims (different from many other games around but addictive as well).
There may well be a new genre in the near future as the consoles get more powerful. With more new genres we can bring more of a good range of games. People could use several genres in their games and bring out something new and different to the gaming world.
And the companies may benifit from it with big sales on their new product.
Mon 25/09/00 at 16:47
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Let me explain.
Someone said there should be a character for the X-Box. I said Crash Bandicoot. The reason I said that was because Microsoft Windows 98 has a reputation of crashing when you least expect it.
Crashing = Crash
Crash Bandicoot.
Do you understand now?
Anyway, they aren't making Tomb Raider 5, they are making Tomb Raider 2.4
Mon 25/09/00 at 16:26
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I dont think theres anything wrong with Crash, its a good series thats aimed at a young audience, which are the best age group to aim a samey sequel at because of the fact that they wont be able to tell if it its similar in terms of gameplay. The Tomb Raider series has NEVER been updated, i believe that they release a new one just to get males hormones racing with a woman with huge boobs and in light leather(most of the time!) on screen, nothing really different about any of them.
Mon 25/09/00 at 16:23
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What's wrong with crash bandicoot ???
I say tombraider series was just a clever way to get money. A big breasted woman running around with lots of guns. Tombraider 1 was the only one with any originallity, the others are just slightly better graphics and updated a bit.
Mon 25/09/00 at 12:47
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Babylonian, I understand if you dont like the Final Fantasy series, but can I correct you in saying that the general format of the Final Fantasy series in terms of term based, menu combat has been the same on whatever system it has been developed on- its doesnt matter what system it appears on, whether it be PS2, PSX, N64 whatever, the sequels will never be any different from their originals, even if the originals were developed on inferior systems. Yes, if it sells good, they will develop a sequel, you are right, but nowadays, games developers are AFRAID to develop original games in fear of going bust due to high development costs. It doesnt matter how well it sells, as far as I know the TR series has been decreasing is sales right from the very first outing, and Eidos will continue to produce TR games cause they know it will work and will not bother to develop an original game cause they are afraid financially to do so.
Mon 25/09/00 at 12:36
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>The playstation is the one with all the sequals

Remember that Finaly Fantasy only started at 7 on the PSX - that means there were 6 on the Nintendo systems!

Surely whether a sequel is any good is a matter of personal preference? I bought FF7, but got fed up with it - not my type of game. But it's sold so many millions that people obviously enjoy them. I don't, but I'm not bothered that they're talking about making yet more of them - I'm just unlikely to buy them!

I personally like the Tomb Raider series, but will readily admit they are all very similar. They're working on a TR5 for PSX, but I'm hoping that when Lara makes the jump to PS2, I'm hoping for much, much more.

Every machine has sequels - how many Sonic's? How many Donkey Kong's? How many Mario's? The format might have changed (as in the Oddworld games and Munch's Oddysey on PS2), but strictly speaking, they're still sequels to the original games.

Inevitably, regardless of whether it's actually any good, if a game sells well, there'll be a sequel. If the sequel sells well, there'll be another, and so on. Only when a particular episode of a game fails to sell will we see the end of it.
Mon 25/09/00 at 11:20
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Game Sequels are always a method used by games developers to make more money. They use a method that has been tried and tested which they know will sell well- a prime example of this is the Tomb Raider series, which to be honest is turning so stale right now it smells like a lump of French cheese that has been left out for a month. The problem with companies releasing sequel time after time is that they become so repetitive that it gets boring, and people will refuse to buy it anymore. The exception to this is the Final Fantasy series... now 9 games are in the series and each one has selled well- but what Square do is produce a new game, with new characters and a completely new storyline, totally different than all others in the series.Thats why we are NOT going to see Squall Lionheart in Final Fantasy IX. Another exception to the rule is with the Championship Manager games also, which produce updates in separate version which encourage gamers to buy the updates, which are safer than downloading a potentially unstable version of the database which could corrupt their precious game. Developers, due to the high development costs to produce games nowadays, feels it is a safer option to produce a game that they know will sell well because its a brand that people trust and can expect to be of good quality rather than to produce a game that is very original and genre defining- it is a big risk. Thats why the original games are normally games that are extraordinary for example Deus Ex,Black and White,Driver,Grand Theft Auto, but I do say that there are games that are supposed to be original can be crap though, thats why its such a risk for developers to produce original games rather than sequels, which are a safer and mroe cost effective option.
Sun 24/09/00 at 23:35
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Games sequels are inevitable and can either turn out to be a rehash of the last game, worse than the last game or much better than the last game. Most definatly they are to make the companies involved more money, but they are either for this purpose only or because they believe that this is what the customer wants.
You cannot simplify games sequels like this, mainly because most developers put a lot of time into a game, including getting people to test the game at the end and going back to change it if it does not live up to the players expectations. There are a few developers in it just for the money, but that is what they are, a few. The majority will only release a game when it is ready, hence the late release date on a lot of games. Whether they still turn out to be crap or not is another matter entirely.
Sun 24/09/00 at 20:27
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The best games do get reproduced but sometimes turn out to be rubbish eg. Turok 2, Tomb raider 5, Diablo 2 (bug ridden). Why do they brings us this c*$&? It's because they know you will buy it because you liked the first game and anticipates the what happens, and to find greater improvements in the games.
The anticipation makes the people buy it, but the sequels turn out to be rubbish. Everyone got Goldeneye and awaited a sequel, they got Perfect Dark and weren't disappointed. Now everyone has Metal Solid and are waiting for a PSX2 version of it and hopefully that turns out well. What developers have is pressure from us to bring out the games, that's why they turn out to be rubbish. Look at Zelda OoT Nintendo took 2 years to make it and it turned out to be game of the year.They need to spend more time on their games to get the right results.
Sun 24/09/00 at 17:45
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it's only the good games that get reproduced, because they think that you want the game again but with different levels, take Goldneye for example, I was bored with the same old levels after 3 years of running around killing the same old characters again and again, so they decided to eventually release Perfect dark, which was the same in some ways but gave Goldneye veterans the chance to have different guns and new techniques to learn, gran tourismo was different because you could buy almost any car you wanted, you could buy your mum and dads car and tune them to look the same or run faster than a F1 car(almost) my dads mate has a 600hp engine in a Ford KA, and thats not clever. Sometimes it's a good idea but Tombraider was takin the buiscuit!! 5 games!! i didn't realise they had made another, has she got different boots on in this game? the first TR was a huge success and the second TR was also very good because you could take controls of some vehicles, which had dissapointed me with the first game as I couldn't ride the Motorbike onto the boat! but then the third game came out and the profits died, but CORE sold copies because of Lara's appearance which attracted much attention because of cheats and free posters. So as you can see it's accepted for a certain distance, but when it passes that line it's dissmissed like a bad smell.
Sun 24/09/00 at 16:34
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What no more Resident Evils, I'ld die. Sure sometimes sequels can be abused, but usually a sequel/ prequel only makes a great game even better. For Example

Original Prequel

Gran Turismo ---- Gran Turismo 2
Wipeout ------------- Wipe3out
Resident Evil-------- Resident Evil 3--Nemesis
Tekken------------------Tekken 3
Ridge Racer----------RRT4
Final Fantasy7-------Final Fantasy 8

And theres more great prequels to come, Driver 2, Tekken Tag Tournament, tonnes of great games are just getting better. Its Evolution, Look at the Mario Series of games, each one a Masterpeice. I wonder how Nintendo can top Mario64, but I cant wait to see it happen!

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