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"It looks aweful. Why can't the make it like the realistic demos???"
A phrase so ofte heard. And I agree, but for a different reason.
Of course, I have no doubt that the new Zelda will have great gameplay, maybe even some revolutionary elements too. Either way it's going to be a classic.
But why Cell-shading? After all, as I understand it, cell-shading was invented by Sega to give Jet Set a grafiti feel to it. Of course, it works superbly for cartoons too, hene games like Wacky Racers use it. So, why Zelda? It is neither a cartoon, nor is it a street sports game. It simply doesn't warrant the new look.
I propose two alternatives:
1) The hyper-realistoc look.
Clearly, this will allow Nintendo to truely realise the phantasy elements of the game- great looking maic effect, immense bosses and perfect sword fights would make the game the crown of the Gamecube and show what the console is capable of. It would increase gamecube sales, and would alert the massmarket as to Nintendo's genius. It couldn't go wrong!
2) A new graphical style:
Well, Cell-shading was invented to look like grafiti- the topic of the game it was used in. So, why doesn't Miyamoto invent a new style for Zelda that would allow the phantasy side of the game to shine. How about having a sky that swirls with multiple colours- like a moving Monet painting. Lakes could be done in the same way- ever seen Monet's water-lilies? Evil creatures in the game could be surrounded by a haze of dark evil that would follow their bodys and produce stunning effects.
This is what I mean by a new graphical style.
Well, there are my two cents for the day. I'd like to know your opinions- especially on that last idea.
Sonic
A phrase so ofte heard. And I agree, but for a different reason.
Of course, I have no doubt that the new Zelda will have great gameplay, maybe even some revolutionary elements too. Either way it's going to be a classic.
But why Cell-shading? After all, as I understand it, cell-shading was invented by Sega to give Jet Set a grafiti feel to it. Of course, it works superbly for cartoons too, hene games like Wacky Racers use it. So, why Zelda? It is neither a cartoon, nor is it a street sports game. It simply doesn't warrant the new look.
I propose two alternatives:
1) The hyper-realistoc look.
Clearly, this will allow Nintendo to truely realise the phantasy elements of the game- great looking maic effect, immense bosses and perfect sword fights would make the game the crown of the Gamecube and show what the console is capable of. It would increase gamecube sales, and would alert the massmarket as to Nintendo's genius. It couldn't go wrong!
2) A new graphical style:
Well, Cell-shading was invented to look like grafiti- the topic of the game it was used in. So, why doesn't Miyamoto invent a new style for Zelda that would allow the phantasy side of the game to shine. How about having a sky that swirls with multiple colours- like a moving Monet painting. Lakes could be done in the same way- ever seen Monet's water-lilies? Evil creatures in the game could be surrounded by a haze of dark evil that would follow their bodys and produce stunning effects.
This is what I mean by a new graphical style.
Well, there are my two cents for the day. I'd like to know your opinions- especially on that last idea.
Sonic
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Strafex, Shigsy has come out and said that he wants the new Zelda games to be shorter to allow casual gamers to complete them. This is fact.
Of course, it'll mean he plans to release a mario/zelda game every 6 months, however, it enevitably means that the games will not be able to provide the REVOLUTION we expect from the series.
Sonic
Of course, it'll mean he plans to release a mario/zelda game every 6 months, however, it enevitably means that the games will not be able to provide the REVOLUTION we expect from the series.
Sonic
Yea well, I know im dissing it, but whats the first thing I see? Screenshots? And, if I personally hate cell-shading, then im not going to enjoy the game. That just weird old me.
But basically, what im saying is that I won't be like "Ooh yes! Zelda!" And go out and buy the game, I will have to see if a mate gets a GameCube, or ask someone on here.
But, personally, I think Nintendo ruined it. Personally.
Congrats on GAD Sonic :o)
But basically, what im saying is that I won't be like "Ooh yes! Zelda!" And go out and buy the game, I will have to see if a mate gets a GameCube, or ask someone on here.
But, personally, I think Nintendo ruined it. Personally.
Congrats on GAD Sonic :o)
I wish all the people that hate Zelda cuz of it's appearence would just shut up and play the game!! Even if they do import it! I'm getting fed up of people saying 'it looks bad so i'm not getting it, ever!' Have you played either of the N64 Zeldas??? Just think, the GameCube is a big step up from the N64 and therefore this new game should be a big step up from the other 2! I bet that the first few reviews/previews we see on this site will start with something about it's appearence! But honestly people, some of you are acting like Newbies!!
I don't care how it looks, I wanna play it! And the cell shading thing could mean smoother and more visually pleasing movements! I also think that it's 'Disney-style' could be a link to a future Zelda film...
I don't care how it looks, I wanna play it! And the cell shading thing could mean smoother and more visually pleasing movements! I also think that it's 'Disney-style' could be a link to a future Zelda film...
I heard that "short 'n sweet" applied to small projects that weren't garaunteed to sell.
New, original games like Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin were made by small devellopment teams in a small amount of time because they didn't want to put too much into an idea that didn't sell.
Pikmin was a big success and now Shigsy is making the sequel, putting more resources in and expanding the idea (hopefully).
Bigger franchises like Mario and Zelda (the games that Nintendo KNOW will sell), have bigger devellopment teams and more time and resources spent on them.
Perhaps Zelda has been downgraded into the "testing" class because of the negative reaction to it's new visuals?
New, original games like Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin were made by small devellopment teams in a small amount of time because they didn't want to put too much into an idea that didn't sell.
Pikmin was a big success and now Shigsy is making the sequel, putting more resources in and expanding the idea (hopefully).
Bigger franchises like Mario and Zelda (the games that Nintendo KNOW will sell), have bigger devellopment teams and more time and resources spent on them.
Perhaps Zelda has been downgraded into the "testing" class because of the negative reaction to it's new visuals?
Strafex wrote:
The short and sweet policy seriously sucks though, but
> I've heard that it doesn't apply to Zelda and Mario so the big epic titles won't
> be ruined after all...
I hope...
Actually... it does :(
The new Zelda is meant to be 15 hours in length (as opposed to the 40 hours of the N64 game)... which is probably a bad thing...
Sonic
The short and sweet policy seriously sucks though, but
> I've heard that it doesn't apply to Zelda and Mario so the big epic titles won't
> be ruined after all...
I hope...
Actually... it does :(
The new Zelda is meant to be 15 hours in length (as opposed to the 40 hours of the N64 game)... which is probably a bad thing...
Sonic
You have to trust the big N.
I think it's good that the style has change significantly, as it stops Zelda becoming stale like Tomb Raider.
Cell-Shading is just the latest cool technique that developers like using, and one day we will see a more realistic, maybe even more dark and adult, in the future.
I think it's good that the style has change significantly, as it stops Zelda becoming stale like Tomb Raider.
Cell-Shading is just the latest cool technique that developers like using, and one day we will see a more realistic, maybe even more dark and adult, in the future.
The Cell Shading does look cool in action.
I think that the game will be flowing with character and interacting with characters will look more like a disney quality cartoon rather than some plastacine models nodding their head in time to the words.
The short and sweet policy seriously sucks though, but I've heard that it doesn't apply to Zelda and Mario so the big epic titles won't be ruined after all...
I hope...
I think that the game will be flowing with character and interacting with characters will look more like a disney quality cartoon rather than some plastacine models nodding their head in time to the words.
The short and sweet policy seriously sucks though, but I've heard that it doesn't apply to Zelda and Mario so the big epic titles won't be ruined after all...
I hope...
Maybe Zelda in cell shading could be good. Maybe they could have a story where you travel to a different world. And the graphics change from the normal type of graphics, to cell shading. Maybe they are going to use both the normal and cell shading graphics.
GasMask, I think it's a bit premature to dimiss buying the game altogether.
Despite the utterly horrific state of the graphics (my opinion), the actual gameplay, story and handling will be amazing- it's a Zelda game after all!
The only thing that does worry me is that Miyamoto has openly said that the game will be shorter for casual gamers who don't finnish long games, and so that he can push out more games. (He's thinking of a new Zelda/Mario game every 6 months!). This would harm the very idea of Zelda... it is meant to be the leader when it comes to games in terms to gameplay, story and revolution. So to make the series expand so quickly would lose a lot of that excitment that surrounds the series.
Sonic
Despite the utterly horrific state of the graphics (my opinion), the actual gameplay, story and handling will be amazing- it's a Zelda game after all!
The only thing that does worry me is that Miyamoto has openly said that the game will be shorter for casual gamers who don't finnish long games, and so that he can push out more games. (He's thinking of a new Zelda/Mario game every 6 months!). This would harm the very idea of Zelda... it is meant to be the leader when it comes to games in terms to gameplay, story and revolution. So to make the series expand so quickly would lose a lot of that excitment that surrounds the series.
Sonic
Yeah, I agree Sonic.
In my view Nintendo have ruined a masterpiece. I hate that cel-shading stuff, it looks so bad.
AWAY FROM THE KID STUFF. Sheesh...
But, I can still find 10/20 games from the launch titles that are adult. Mm, Nintendo are turning.. (Good!)
But this cel-shading, it looks like crap. I like the realistic one, remember when the first screenies came through? Ohh it looked so cool. Now, its crap. I shall definatly not be buying Zelda, unless they change it.
Shame, I enjoyed the N64 versions..
In my view Nintendo have ruined a masterpiece. I hate that cel-shading stuff, it looks so bad.
AWAY FROM THE KID STUFF. Sheesh...
But, I can still find 10/20 games from the launch titles that are adult. Mm, Nintendo are turning.. (Good!)
But this cel-shading, it looks like crap. I like the realistic one, remember when the first screenies came through? Ohh it looked so cool. Now, its crap. I shall definatly not be buying Zelda, unless they change it.
Shame, I enjoyed the N64 versions..
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