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"Zelda in Cell Shading...."

"It looks aweful. Why can't the make it like the realistic demos???"

A phrase so ofte heard. And I agree, but for a different reason.

Of course, I have no doubt that the new Zelda will have great gameplay, maybe even some revolutionary elements too. Either way it's going to be a classic.

But why Cell-shading? After all, as I understand it, cell-shading was invented by Sega to give Jet Set a grafiti feel to it. Of course, it works superbly for cartoons too, hene games like Wacky Racers use it. So, why Zelda? It is neither a cartoon, nor is it a street sports game. It simply doesn't warrant the new look.

I propose two alternatives:

1) The hyper-realistoc look.
Clearly, this will allow Nintendo to truely realise the phantasy elements of the game- great looking maic effect, immense bosses and perfect sword fights would make the game the crown of the Gamecube and show what the console is capable of. It would increase gamecube sales, and would alert the massmarket as to Nintendo's genius. It couldn't go wrong!

2) A new graphical style:
Well, Cell-shading was invented to look like grafiti- the topic of the game it was used in. So, why doesn't Miyamoto invent a new style for Zelda that would allow the phantasy side of the game to shine. How about having a sky that swirls with multiple colours- like a moving Monet painting. Lakes could be done in the same way- ever seen Monet's water-lilies? Evil creatures in the game could be surrounded by a haze of dark evil that would follow their bodys and produce stunning effects.
This is what I mean by a new graphical style.


Well, there are my two cents for the day. I'd like to know your opinions- especially on that last idea.

Sonic

I'm still happy to try the cell-shading as it could come to something big in the future, but we have to PLAY IT FIRST! But I would probably take it more seriously with more serious graphics. It does kinda seem like a 'kiddies adventure' with the Disney effect.

Well, there are strong rumours that mario sunshine (or whichever it is) is nothing like the cartoon it is at the mo...

Sonic

There are strong rumours now that it WON'T be cell-shaded.

There's even a poll on the Nintendo website asking which look of Zelda we'd prefer.

Yet only last week Miyamoto was confirming that it was still set for a pre-Xmas 2002 release in Japan.

I think I'd be sad to see the 'Cel-da' look go now though!

Oh well, I'm sure we'll know one way or another at E3. I'm wondering what they'll introduce to the game this time, maybe they'll build on the 'seeds' from the oracle games, or maybe the changing seasons?

Again, we'll see!

Sibs wrote:
> Sonic, you have some very unique ideas... that Monet thing... very...
> unique...

no other way to describe it, unless I am mean and say it is odd...
> but I am not mean, so I won't say that.

:D


thank you sibs... and your stories are very... worrying... especially the one about me becoming a world dictator

Sonic

DaveyDenton wrote:
> DaveyDenton wrote:
> I didnt hear anyone complain about any of the
pre 3d
> zelda games.
i mean its
> strange but some of them look *gasp* 2d and
> cartoony you know what that
> means?
Im gonna have to go back in time and
> stop myself from having played them
> cos they look pants to what miyamoto
> showed at spaceworld wanh wanh wanh etc
> etc.
Give the graphs a chance i
> didnt liek em at first they look smooth and
> 'fluid' now and link looks
> groovy.
as i say people wouldnt have kicked up a
> fuss if it hadnt been
> for what they say at spaceworld.



What came before zelda on the n64.
ALL
> THE OTHER ZELDA GAMES THAT WERE IN 2D and carttony looking. They were some fo
> the best.
the snes version is legendary.
thats what i mean.



Ah, yes, the SNES version



People are only complaining because of the way the two Zelda games looked on the 64. If they'd been in this new GameCube style, no-one would care

It's their project, let them do it however they want

Sonic, you have some very unique ideas... that Monet thing... very... unique...

no other way to describe it, unless I am mean and say it is odd... but I am not mean, so I won't say that.

:D

DaveyDenton wrote:
> I didnt hear anyone complain about any of the
pre 3d zelda games.
i mean its
> strange but some of them look *gasp* 2d and cartoony you know what that
> means?
Im gonna have to go back in time and stop myself from having played them
> cos they look pants to what miyamoto showed at spaceworld wanh wanh wanh etc
> etc.
Give the graphs a chance i didnt liek em at first they look smooth and
> 'fluid' now and link looks groovy.
as i say people wouldnt have kicked up a
> fuss if it hadnt been for what they say at spaceworld.



What came before zelda on the n64.
ALL THE OTHER ZELDA GAMES THAT WERE IN 2D and carttony looking. They were some fo the best.
the snes version is legendary.
thats what i mean.

GAD to someone who can explain what the hell Davey is saying....

Anyway, Strafex, yes, I do realise they have "adapted" the cell shading. But my point still stands- graphics are meant to depict the style of the game, and a new style of graphics, like the Monet based ones, would have been more appropriate, and have far more impact.

BTW, tonight, "What Dreams May come" is on Channel 4. I've never seen it, but I've seen clips of some of the scenes in which Williams walks through his wife's monet-like paintings! Wonder if that'll be like I imagined my version of Zelda to be

Sonic

I didnt hear anyone complain about any of the
pre 3d zelda games.
i mean its strange but some of them look *gasp* 2d and cartoony you know what that means?
Im gonna have to go back in time and stop myself from having played them cos they look pants to what miyamoto showed at spaceworld wanh wanh wanh etc etc.
Give the graphs a chance i didnt liek em at first they look smooth and 'fluid' now and link looks groovy.
as i say people wouldnt have kicked up a fuss if it hadnt been for what they say at spaceworld.

Come on Sonic! I've opened a genuine point of discussion!
You HAVE to reply!