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I am a dedicated console follower and own PS1, 2 , DC, N64 and GBC/GBA. I have recently bought James Bond: Agent under fire but i think goldeneye was better, even though the ps2 was clearly the more pwoerful machine. Your thoughts here!
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A classic example that goes to show that, more powerful consoles dont necessarily make better games. Long Live C64 and Mega Drive
In answer to the subject line, yes its a game called perfect dark.
What about Perfect Dark?
Joe Dark wrote:
> What about Perfect Dark?
I was saying that it is better than goldeneye.
> What about Perfect Dark?
I was saying that it is better than goldeneye.
If you see we posted at the same time, just yours came on first. The topic question was 'Can Goldeneye Ever get beaten?' I was saying that Perfect Dark could fit into the GoldenEye beater position
I think that Perfect Dark does beat it in graphics, originality, etc..., but they are both very similar. Because they have both been created by Rare. What if Goldeneye hadn't started as a film, but as a game. Do you think it would have been even better, because of the freedom of ideas that could be used to create it??
I prefer Perfect Dark to Goldeneye - I think the question is can Perfect Dark ever be beaten - In a word no (not yet anyway!!)
The problem with Bond titles now is that Rare set the mould. Other companies are now just trying to replicate the formula (The World Is not enough anyone?) but not doing it as well as Rare. I'm sure other Bond titles have outsold Perfect Dark, but none were anywhere near as good as PD or Goldeneye. Goldeneye was better in some ways to PD in my opinion.
With PD Rare were a victim of their own success. So many had played Goldeneye to death that they had become experts at that style of gameplay, and could do PD on agent mode in no time. Sure, it took longer to win on harder difficulties, but people had got in so much training in Goldeneye, it took less time to win on the hardest setting than Goldeneye (I won it quicker than GE anyway). The cheats were also easier to obtain (I think) just because the levels were more open ended. There were more routes you could choose, and more variables, so setting a challenging but obtainable time was more difficult for Rare. Also, the secret levels were pretty hard, but no level was quite as bad as Goldeneyes 'Killer' level 'Aztec' where you faced Jaws, and had to launch a space ship. That level was near impossible if you hadn't practiced it more than was healthy. Perfect Dark had some damn hard challenges, but none quite as difficult as that.
But PD was better in other respects. Graphics, Multiplay, variety (arguably), and other aspects. The one player may not have been as challenging (mainly because Goldeneye made us so good at Rares style of FPS), but there was more life in it because of Co-Op mode, counter op mode, the multiplay challenges (30 of em, and you could win them with 1-4 players), and the incredibly open ended multiplay. There was also a training ground to mess around in, and a really challenging target range. Perfect Dark did probably beat Goldeneye overall, but for a real fan, you just need them both.
With PD Rare were a victim of their own success. So many had played Goldeneye to death that they had become experts at that style of gameplay, and could do PD on agent mode in no time. Sure, it took longer to win on harder difficulties, but people had got in so much training in Goldeneye, it took less time to win on the hardest setting than Goldeneye (I won it quicker than GE anyway). The cheats were also easier to obtain (I think) just because the levels were more open ended. There were more routes you could choose, and more variables, so setting a challenging but obtainable time was more difficult for Rare. Also, the secret levels were pretty hard, but no level was quite as bad as Goldeneyes 'Killer' level 'Aztec' where you faced Jaws, and had to launch a space ship. That level was near impossible if you hadn't practiced it more than was healthy. Perfect Dark had some damn hard challenges, but none quite as difficult as that.
But PD was better in other respects. Graphics, Multiplay, variety (arguably), and other aspects. The one player may not have been as challenging (mainly because Goldeneye made us so good at Rares style of FPS), but there was more life in it because of Co-Op mode, counter op mode, the multiplay challenges (30 of em, and you could win them with 1-4 players), and the incredibly open ended multiplay. There was also a training ground to mess around in, and a really challenging target range. Perfect Dark did probably beat Goldeneye overall, but for a real fan, you just need them both.
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