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Nintendo's arrogance annoys me.

As far as I can tell, the overriding reason most people would want to own a Nintendo console is purely because of the games, yes? All the Nintendo fans harp on about their exclusive Mario's, Zelda's, Metroid's and so forth. It's these you own the console for, and it's these which give you faith in the company.

Am I far wrong here?

Does it make sense then, that Nintendo restrict these games only to one platform? Does it make sense that a company renowned for it's games abuses this reputation in order to sell hardware which is poorly advertised, badly marketed, and fails to appeal to the majority of gamers?

Nintendo are very good at making games.
Nintendo are not very good at pruducing and selling consoles.
Nintendo care little for marketing techniques and customer service beyond their arrogant attitude that people have to get their console if they want the best games.

I don't like this.

It won't happen, but wouldn't it be a better thing for the gaming public in general if Nintendo were a software-only company?

Diverging slightly, The games industry is in a ridiculous state if you think about it. If you bought a Panasonic DVD player over a Sony one, it's not because it will have DVD's released exclusively for it. You buy it for the hardware, and the hardware alone. That's the way it should be with consoles. Games and games console should be mututally exclusive. That is to say, choosing one should not restrict or otherwise affect your choice of the other.

How long will it take for the industry to become co-operative?

You might say it'll never happen, but I'd disagree. The only reason it hasn't happened yet is that the overwhelming pace with which the technical requirements of games are increasing, prevents anyone from getting a foothold. Eventually, we'll hit a barrier. Either the games won't become noticably more demanding, or perhaps more likely, the hardware reaches it's limitations. When that happens, we'll see things settle down. Eventually, someone will cotton on to the idea that nobody has any reason to buy a new console which plays a different format of games, so it simply won't take off. We'll then see consoles released which play games currently around, and this will eventually heat up into a situation reminiscent of the VHS VS Betamax rivalry. Sooner or later, one games format will dominate. From then onwards into the forseeable future, all consoles will be released to play those games. No exclusive titles. No other considerations. Just buy the console you want because of the features it has.

And if they are still around, Nintendo will seriously have to change their attiude.

Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

Gaycube suxx dog balls

Insane Bartender wrote:
> Personally, I've never had any problems with any nintendo hardware or
> software.
>
> Am I easy to please? No.
>
> Anyone who says nintendo fans are easilly swayed and goes home to play
> on GTA:VC is nothing but a misguided hypocrite.

Ive also never had any problems.

Also Well done on makin notable Insane :)

Ive actually been a traitor recently and have played on my new PC alot more than GameCube. But im just waitin for metroid (unless its already come out or what) ooouu i think ive been playing on the computer too much. What day is today? :-|

I will put up a page of screens from Earth and Beyond and see if anyone else is interested.

Goatboy, did you ever try South Park on the N64?

~That~ was hard! (and crap!)

There are plenty of games that are hard to complete, just turn the difficulty up from 'tart' setting...

Goatboy wrote:
> But what about the person that says Nintendo is unchallenging and
> boring and then goes home to play Shogun or Freespace or Age of
> Empires, whilst gibbering loons complain because Pikmin is hard?

Pikmin isn't hard. I completed it first time, but it was still great fun.

Which is the more important in terms of console gaming, challenge or entertainment?

Personally, if I want a challenge, I'll load up Medieval Total War, stick it on Hard mode, and let slip the dogs of war. If I want a laff playing non-serious yet entertaining stuff, I'll load up the Cube and play to my heart's content.

Goatboy wrote:

> Nintendo - for the gamer that finds pushing more than 1 button
> difficult

That's the most pathetic thing I ever did read.

Notable?

I seem to remember you found Monkey Ball too hard and gave up on it.

Pot calling kettle syndrome me thinks.

Or even on 04/09/03.

Damn watch...

You've lost what little semblance of reason you had if you think the GC won't be around it 6 months, Goatboy. I'm going to keep the address of this thread and then rudely shove it in your face on 03/09/03. Mark me on this.

So have you completed Goldeneye on every setting and unlocked all the cheats, dude? That took me months to do!

What about monkey ball? Have you completed that? That's a hard game, man.

In the days of the 16 bit consoles, we had Sega and Nintendo but not much has changed now. Only we have three competitors instead of two...

I've got a PS2 and I play that a lot as well, mianly for Pro-Evo 2 and a bit of Vice City here and there.

But what about the person that says Nintendo is unchallenging and boring and then goes home to play Shogun or Freespace or Age of Empires, whilst gibbering loons complain because Pikmin is hard?

Anything is hard when you have the brainial ability of food

Personally, I've never had any problems with any nintendo hardware or software.

Am I easy to please? No.

Anyone who says nintendo fans are easilly swayed and goes home to play on GTA:VC is nothing but a misguided hypocrite.