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I recently got a ps2 for xmas :) with a game(f1) but decfided to purchase another game Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3. When i got it home and put it in to my machine i played it for an hour non stop, then decided to play f1. I had cleared my old memory card which had 1mb on when i came to save it it wouldn't because i had an old memory card i had enough space on it but it didn't let me save it. So now i have to go out and shell out £25 just for a memory card. Why did't sony just make the machine compatible with both cards it would save a lot of difficulty, or do what the xbox is doig putting hard drives in that will save money on memory and will never have to worry about it.
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WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Fosbe1 wrote:
> Why did't sony just make the machine compatible with
>
> both cards it would save a lot of difficulty, or do
> what the xbox is doig
> putting hard drives in that will save
> money on memory and will never have
> to worry about it.
Different type of memory completely, different method of
> access - PS1 cards are only compatible with PS1 games.
PS1 memory cards are 1
> megbit, not 1 megabyte; 1 megabit is 128k, most PS2 games require more than 128k
> (for example Devil May Cry requires 420k minimum - you couldn't fit ONE DMC save
> on a PS1 memory card.
Also, the save system is different - PS1 cards are 15
> fixed blocks of 8.5k each - a single save takes up at least one block, even if
> it only needs 2k; you could in theory have 15 saves on a PS1 memory card of only
> 1k each, and so waste 113k of space.
PS2 save files are not fixed, but are
> more like normal files on a PC in that they only take up the required space for
> the file - so you don't waste any space at all.
And as has already been
> mentioned, PS2 memory cards use MagicGate, which provides secure on-board data
> encryption - much like the new chips used on credit cards. This was included
> due to Sony's on-line plans for the PS2 and the requirement for secure online
> transactions etc. This makes the memory more expensive, and is why it costs
> more than the equivalent memory for MP3 players and the like.
The only fair
> comparison in terms of price is with Sony's other MagicGate technology, the
> Memory Stick - which the PS2 memory cards are based on.
ok then where did u learn all of that. do u work for sony r u here to try and make us buy there products?
> Fosbe1 wrote:
> Why did't sony just make the machine compatible with
>
> both cards it would save a lot of difficulty, or do
> what the xbox is doig
> putting hard drives in that will save
> money on memory and will never have
> to worry about it.
Different type of memory completely, different method of
> access - PS1 cards are only compatible with PS1 games.
PS1 memory cards are 1
> megbit, not 1 megabyte; 1 megabit is 128k, most PS2 games require more than 128k
> (for example Devil May Cry requires 420k minimum - you couldn't fit ONE DMC save
> on a PS1 memory card.
Also, the save system is different - PS1 cards are 15
> fixed blocks of 8.5k each - a single save takes up at least one block, even if
> it only needs 2k; you could in theory have 15 saves on a PS1 memory card of only
> 1k each, and so waste 113k of space.
PS2 save files are not fixed, but are
> more like normal files on a PC in that they only take up the required space for
> the file - so you don't waste any space at all.
And as has already been
> mentioned, PS2 memory cards use MagicGate, which provides secure on-board data
> encryption - much like the new chips used on credit cards. This was included
> due to Sony's on-line plans for the PS2 and the requirement for secure online
> transactions etc. This makes the memory more expensive, and is why it costs
> more than the equivalent memory for MP3 players and the like.
The only fair
> comparison in terms of price is with Sony's other MagicGate technology, the
> Memory Stick - which the PS2 memory cards are based on.
ok then where did u learn all of that. do u work for sony r u here to try and make us buy there products?
Fosbe1 wrote:
> Why did't sony just make the machine compatible with
> both cards it would save a lot of difficulty, or do
> what the xbox is doig putting hard drives in that will save
> money on memory and will never have to worry about it.
Different type of memory completely, different method of access - PS1 cards are only compatible with PS1 games.
PS1 memory cards are 1 megbit, not 1 megabyte; 1 megabit is 128k, most PS2 games require more than 128k (for example Devil May Cry requires 420k minimum - you couldn't fit ONE DMC save on a PS1 memory card.
Also, the save system is different - PS1 cards are 15 fixed blocks of 8.5k each - a single save takes up at least one block, even if it only needs 2k; you could in theory have 15 saves on a PS1 memory card of only 1k each, and so waste 113k of space.
PS2 save files are not fixed, but are more like normal files on a PC in that they only take up the required space for the file - so you don't waste any space at all.
And as has already been mentioned, PS2 memory cards use MagicGate, which provides secure on-board data encryption - much like the new chips used on credit cards. This was included due to Sony's on-line plans for the PS2 and the requirement for secure online transactions etc. This makes the memory more expensive, and is why it costs more than the equivalent memory for MP3 players and the like.
The only fair comparison in terms of price is with Sony's other MagicGate technology, the Memory Stick - which the PS2 memory cards are based on.
> Why did't sony just make the machine compatible with
> both cards it would save a lot of difficulty, or do
> what the xbox is doig putting hard drives in that will save
> money on memory and will never have to worry about it.
Different type of memory completely, different method of access - PS1 cards are only compatible with PS1 games.
PS1 memory cards are 1 megbit, not 1 megabyte; 1 megabit is 128k, most PS2 games require more than 128k (for example Devil May Cry requires 420k minimum - you couldn't fit ONE DMC save on a PS1 memory card.
Also, the save system is different - PS1 cards are 15 fixed blocks of 8.5k each - a single save takes up at least one block, even if it only needs 2k; you could in theory have 15 saves on a PS1 memory card of only 1k each, and so waste 113k of space.
PS2 save files are not fixed, but are more like normal files on a PC in that they only take up the required space for the file - so you don't waste any space at all.
And as has already been mentioned, PS2 memory cards use MagicGate, which provides secure on-board data encryption - much like the new chips used on credit cards. This was included due to Sony's on-line plans for the PS2 and the requirement for secure online transactions etc. This makes the memory more expensive, and is why it costs more than the equivalent memory for MP3 players and the like.
The only fair comparison in terms of price is with Sony's other MagicGate technology, the Memory Stick - which the PS2 memory cards are based on.
I have Shaun Palmer, and I find it to be a good game, but not excellent. A couple of months (before all the good games were released, and there wasn't much choice) people would have said it was a great game but now with the likes of SSX Tricky it won't exactlty draw you back to play it every day, although maybe every week. Its fun, but it can be fustrating as you have to land perfectly so you don't fall over e.t.c. and the precise realism makes it more like flight simulator.
I still play it every now and then. If you do want it, I bought mine from EB for £30 on sale. (game also have it at the same price) and I think its a good game at that price, but its down to opinion. If you are still interested try renting it first.
I still play it every now and then. If you do want it, I bought mine from EB for £30 on sale. (game also have it at the same price) and I think its a good game at that price, but its down to opinion. If you are still interested try renting it first.
Kid Rock wrote:
> Fosbe1 wrote:
> Kid Rock wrote:
> take it back and say it was an
> unwanted late christmas
> present
y would i want to do that the games
> are quility. its just the
> wretched memory cards.
im on about THPS3 take
> it back to WHSmiths get a refund then buy the game from HMV and have £15
> to spend on a memory card
are i get you i would if i could but my bro wont want to let it go he cant stop playing it even though he will turn it off and gop mental because he has to start again.
> Fosbe1 wrote:
> Kid Rock wrote:
> take it back and say it was an
> unwanted late christmas
> present
y would i want to do that the games
> are quility. its just the
> wretched memory cards.
im on about THPS3 take
> it back to WHSmiths get a refund then buy the game from HMV and have £15
> to spend on a memory card
are i get you i would if i could but my bro wont want to let it go he cant stop playing it even though he will turn it off and gop mental because he has to start again.
I also heard that you need a memory card to play shauln palmers because my mate got it for xmas and said it wasnt good because he needed a memory card to play the career mode.
Fosbe1 wrote:
> Kid Rock wrote:
> take it back and say it was an unwanted late christmas
> present
y would i want to do that the games are quility. its just the
> wretched memory cards.
im on about THPS3 take it back to WHSmiths get a refund then buy the game from HMV and have £15 to spend on a memory card
> Kid Rock wrote:
> take it back and say it was an unwanted late christmas
> present
y would i want to do that the games are quility. its just the
> wretched memory cards.
im on about THPS3 take it back to WHSmiths get a refund then buy the game from HMV and have £15 to spend on a memory card
Shaun Palmers is NOT a very good game. I bought it from E-play, and even though they have a 7 day no fuss returns thing, they wouldn't give me a refund!!!! I bought it one Saturday and on the receipt it said I bought it at 1:00, and the next Saturday I went back and the guy said it was over 7 days. In actual fact, it was only 12:30, so it wasn't over 7 days. Shaun Palmers is a very mediocre game, get something like SSX Tricky instead, that's much better.
outlaw_uk2002 wrote:
> I've had my PS2 since launch day and consequentially have bought about 25 games.
> Still, I have not the need to buy another - so they are worth the money you
> pay.
well it sounds pretty good i suppose. by the way are u a milionaire how can u afford 25 game?
> I've had my PS2 since launch day and consequentially have bought about 25 games.
> Still, I have not the need to buy another - so they are worth the money you
> pay.
well it sounds pretty good i suppose. by the way are u a milionaire how can u afford 25 game?
Fosbe1 wrote:
> £30 man i went and brought it from whsmiths for 45 i could have used that
> money to get the memory card. Do you no where i might be able to get shauln
> palmers for so cheap?
If you have a receipt, definitely take it back. £45 is one hell of a rip-off, you can get 2 for that price. I'd recommend getting it from a proper video-game shop where prices are reasonable rather than a shop where nobody knows much about games at all.
> £30 man i went and brought it from whsmiths for 45 i could have used that
> money to get the memory card. Do you no where i might be able to get shauln
> palmers for so cheap?
If you have a receipt, definitely take it back. £45 is one hell of a rip-off, you can get 2 for that price. I'd recommend getting it from a proper video-game shop where prices are reasonable rather than a shop where nobody knows much about games at all.
I wouldn't of expected, WHSmiths to be cheap because it specialises in books!
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