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For the first time in years, there are more than two serious consoles hitting the market. Even more amazingly, two of these consoles are launching head-to-head, and the other is extremely well established... both with brand name and games.
So, not only has Nintendo got to compete with Sony (again!), but this time Microsoft have joined the scene. Add to that, the PS2 has had two Christmases worth of sales, and a huge repetoire of games, and the Xbox has a huge marketting budget (and a strong launch to go).
Clearly, Nintendo cannot compete with Microsoft on the TV screens- they simply don't ahve the money for that.
Oh no... Ninty have a far greater weapon at their disposly- games. And lots of them. With characters and franchises ranging from Mario and Zelda to Metroid and Kirby you wouldn't be suprised if Nintendo launched the Gamecube with the best line up of AAA titles seen...
In fact, I thought Nintendo had gone one better when they announced, a while back, that they had given the rights to many of their games away. Metroid, Smash Brothers and Starfox, amongst others, were to have sequals made by developers outside Nintendo. This would then enable Nintendo to concentrate on making some of the most spectacular games ever. Maybe a new Zelda for launch? Maybe something totally new!
But alas, things seem to be crumbling. First we hear news of Ninty's in house games. It turns out that Mario and Zelda will be absent from launch, to be replaced by a couple of weaker games. Ok, so the in house games are good fun, no doubt, BUT will these attract gamers to buy the Gamcube. Methinks not.
Nor will the news of a new Zelda wet gamers appetites- 90% of gamers are the casual sort who will buy a console on brandname alone, and don't read multiformat mags. How are Nintendo going to get these gamers to part with their PS2s, and buy a console that looks like a kids toy? (Sorry, but the console doesn't look "serious".)
OH! And things get worse!...
Those franchised games Ninty have given out aren't all they were promised to be.
At Spaceworld, there was a big absence of Metroid clips- only 8 seconds of the game were shown. Asked why this was, Mr. Miyamoto had to admit that he'd only got the code for the game just before the show, and he wasn't impressed by what he saw. The game had bad pop-up, no sound, was not interactive, and certainly wasn't worth the months of work that had been spent on it. (I believe the game was 8 months into developent at this time!). In fact, the whole future of the game looked on a knife edge.
The other games Ninty had handed out were all good, but many were so far from ready that you wonder why Nintendo didn't just make one of these games themselves to get it out at launch.
Before Nintendo fans throw a riot, let me just saya few things:
1) I am only talking about launch titles
2) I'm a huge Miyamoto fan and will be buying a GC myself
3) This topic is MEANT to cause discussion.
Oh, and remember, all the titles that miss release will come out eventually. So those Zeldas and Marios will certainly mean the console is a great piece of kit. That;s not what I'm arguing about.
I just want to know where all of Ninty's time has gone? They've given away many of their big games, has ages to make a killer titles, and instead they come out with Pikmin... fun, but not AAA by any means.
Sonic
So, not only has Nintendo got to compete with Sony (again!), but this time Microsoft have joined the scene. Add to that, the PS2 has had two Christmases worth of sales, and a huge repetoire of games, and the Xbox has a huge marketting budget (and a strong launch to go).
Clearly, Nintendo cannot compete with Microsoft on the TV screens- they simply don't ahve the money for that.
Oh no... Ninty have a far greater weapon at their disposly- games. And lots of them. With characters and franchises ranging from Mario and Zelda to Metroid and Kirby you wouldn't be suprised if Nintendo launched the Gamecube with the best line up of AAA titles seen...
In fact, I thought Nintendo had gone one better when they announced, a while back, that they had given the rights to many of their games away. Metroid, Smash Brothers and Starfox, amongst others, were to have sequals made by developers outside Nintendo. This would then enable Nintendo to concentrate on making some of the most spectacular games ever. Maybe a new Zelda for launch? Maybe something totally new!
But alas, things seem to be crumbling. First we hear news of Ninty's in house games. It turns out that Mario and Zelda will be absent from launch, to be replaced by a couple of weaker games. Ok, so the in house games are good fun, no doubt, BUT will these attract gamers to buy the Gamcube. Methinks not.
Nor will the news of a new Zelda wet gamers appetites- 90% of gamers are the casual sort who will buy a console on brandname alone, and don't read multiformat mags. How are Nintendo going to get these gamers to part with their PS2s, and buy a console that looks like a kids toy? (Sorry, but the console doesn't look "serious".)
OH! And things get worse!...
Those franchised games Ninty have given out aren't all they were promised to be.
At Spaceworld, there was a big absence of Metroid clips- only 8 seconds of the game were shown. Asked why this was, Mr. Miyamoto had to admit that he'd only got the code for the game just before the show, and he wasn't impressed by what he saw. The game had bad pop-up, no sound, was not interactive, and certainly wasn't worth the months of work that had been spent on it. (I believe the game was 8 months into developent at this time!). In fact, the whole future of the game looked on a knife edge.
The other games Ninty had handed out were all good, but many were so far from ready that you wonder why Nintendo didn't just make one of these games themselves to get it out at launch.
Before Nintendo fans throw a riot, let me just saya few things:
1) I am only talking about launch titles
2) I'm a huge Miyamoto fan and will be buying a GC myself
3) This topic is MEANT to cause discussion.
Oh, and remember, all the titles that miss release will come out eventually. So those Zeldas and Marios will certainly mean the console is a great piece of kit. That;s not what I'm arguing about.
I just want to know where all of Ninty's time has gone? They've given away many of their big games, has ages to make a killer titles, and instead they come out with Pikmin... fun, but not AAA by any means.
Sonic
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Pioneer make best DVD players.
Companies like Denon make better Hi-fi than Sony.
Companies like Denon make better Hi-fi than Sony.
Turbonutter wrote:
May I also remind you that Sony make and are
> market leaders in the field of: TVs, VCRs, CD players, Hi Fi seperates, DVD
> players, Minidisc players, and professional film equipment?
Seriously now,
> who do you think is the LEAST vunerable
Well considering you are making a lot of that up.. I would say you are. Sony are not leaders of the market in professional film equipment, that would go to Linhof or Shneider of Germany, and for selling, I would doubt some of the other ones.
May I also remind you that Sony make and are
> market leaders in the field of: TVs, VCRs, CD players, Hi Fi seperates, DVD
> players, Minidisc players, and professional film equipment?
Seriously now,
> who do you think is the LEAST vunerable
Well considering you are making a lot of that up.. I would say you are. Sony are not leaders of the market in professional film equipment, that would go to Linhof or Shneider of Germany, and for selling, I would doubt some of the other ones.
So? The Xbox and Dreamcast are still 128bit but they're like dogs and horses.
Also, I bet you don't even know what bits means. It only denotes the console's ability to display colours. A 128 bit console can show 3.40282e38 colours, whereas a 16 bit console can only show 65536 colours. However, seeing as a TV can only show 24bit colour maximum, it all seems a little pointless!
Also, I bet you don't even know what bits means. It only denotes the console's ability to display colours. A 128 bit console can show 3.40282e38 colours, whereas a 16 bit console can only show 65536 colours. However, seeing as a TV can only show 24bit colour maximum, it all seems a little pointless!
Still 32 bit.
It also has something to do with the fact that the PSone has a dedicated 3D GPU which the GBA, well, doesn't.
"The GBA and regular consoles like the PS2, GC and Xbox just can't be compared. If you offer a 100 people to choose betwen a free GBA or a PS2, GC or Xbox, seriously how many people would choose a GBA? It's be a miricle if it went into double figures."
I hate to sound like the progtagonist or deciding factor here, but I must agree with that excerpt. I haven't read the entire topic, so there's probably things I've missed, but more people would choose a GC or X-Box over a GBA - why? Because it costs more. *Sigh* It's all about what's more expensive these days - damn the public!
I hate to sound like the progtagonist or deciding factor here, but I must agree with that excerpt. I haven't read the entire topic, so there's probably things I've missed, but more people would choose a GC or X-Box over a GBA - why? Because it costs more. *Sigh* It's all about what's more expensive these days - damn the public!
Basically they are both close matched, PS comes out in front due to it's scaling and Polygon pushing in 3D.
The 32 bit thing thats the same as the PS1 erm don't look at me like that they are both 32 bit yes one has more graphical power and sound and erm stop it stop it NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! pop.
Bollards Dringo, and you know it. I really don't know how you could be so stupid as to say that.
Edgy wrote:
> Game Boy Advance is a games console, just one with it's own built in screen. If
> you say that it isn't a console, then you might just as well call the PSOne a
> Lapheld console as you can play that on your lap and use it's add-on screen
> (which is just a little bit bigger than the GBA's)
And with the same Processing power :D
> Game Boy Advance is a games console, just one with it's own built in screen. If
> you say that it isn't a console, then you might just as well call the PSOne a
> Lapheld console as you can play that on your lap and use it's add-on screen
> (which is just a little bit bigger than the GBA's)
And with the same Processing power :D
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