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Mon 24/12/01 at 22:19
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For the first time in years, there are more than two serious consoles hitting the market. Even more amazingly, two of these consoles are launching head-to-head, and the other is extremely well established... both with brand name and games.

So, not only has Nintendo got to compete with Sony (again!), but this time Microsoft have joined the scene. Add to that, the PS2 has had two Christmases worth of sales, and a huge repetoire of games, and the Xbox has a huge marketting budget (and a strong launch to go).

Clearly, Nintendo cannot compete with Microsoft on the TV screens- they simply don't ahve the money for that.

Oh no... Ninty have a far greater weapon at their disposly- games. And lots of them. With characters and franchises ranging from Mario and Zelda to Metroid and Kirby you wouldn't be suprised if Nintendo launched the Gamecube with the best line up of AAA titles seen...

In fact, I thought Nintendo had gone one better when they announced, a while back, that they had given the rights to many of their games away. Metroid, Smash Brothers and Starfox, amongst others, were to have sequals made by developers outside Nintendo. This would then enable Nintendo to concentrate on making some of the most spectacular games ever. Maybe a new Zelda for launch? Maybe something totally new!

But alas, things seem to be crumbling. First we hear news of Ninty's in house games. It turns out that Mario and Zelda will be absent from launch, to be replaced by a couple of weaker games. Ok, so the in house games are good fun, no doubt, BUT will these attract gamers to buy the Gamcube. Methinks not.

Nor will the news of a new Zelda wet gamers appetites- 90% of gamers are the casual sort who will buy a console on brandname alone, and don't read multiformat mags. How are Nintendo going to get these gamers to part with their PS2s, and buy a console that looks like a kids toy? (Sorry, but the console doesn't look "serious".)

OH! And things get worse!...

Those franchised games Ninty have given out aren't all they were promised to be.

At Spaceworld, there was a big absence of Metroid clips- only 8 seconds of the game were shown. Asked why this was, Mr. Miyamoto had to admit that he'd only got the code for the game just before the show, and he wasn't impressed by what he saw. The game had bad pop-up, no sound, was not interactive, and certainly wasn't worth the months of work that had been spent on it. (I believe the game was 8 months into developent at this time!). In fact, the whole future of the game looked on a knife edge.

The other games Ninty had handed out were all good, but many were so far from ready that you wonder why Nintendo didn't just make one of these games themselves to get it out at launch.

Before Nintendo fans throw a riot, let me just saya few things:

1) I am only talking about launch titles
2) I'm a huge Miyamoto fan and will be buying a GC myself
3) This topic is MEANT to cause discussion.

Oh, and remember, all the titles that miss release will come out eventually. So those Zeldas and Marios will certainly mean the console is a great piece of kit. That;s not what I'm arguing about.

I just want to know where all of Ninty's time has gone? They've given away many of their big games, has ages to make a killer titles, and instead they come out with Pikmin... fun, but not AAA by any means.

Sonic
Sun 06/01/02 at 00:30
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I would reply to this, but that would just make me a joker.

D'oh! I know.... >>>>>>> JOKERS

Aah, I have redeemed myself.
Sun 06/01/02 at 00:12
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===SONICRAV---> wrote:
Basically, the whole thing is nonsense. The PSX is FAR more powerful
> than the GBA, although there are a couple of things the GBA can do that the PSX
> can't... but this doesn't make it more powerful or better in any way!

Yes, but I have a GBA, and not a PSX, therefore the GBA is superior to the PSX in every way.


(Note, this is me, read between the lines, or you'll just get angry.)
Sat 05/01/02 at 22:26
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The way they just fall down ... it's like they were taken from that jeans advert - you know, the one with flexible joints.
Sat 05/01/02 at 22:11
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Skull kid wrote:
> Tony Hawks pro skater 2 is better for the GBA than the PS1. Even all my
> Playstation loving friends agree with this.

yes... those pixelated men...

Sonic
Sat 05/01/02 at 14:44
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Good. Not exactly 4 player though really is it.
Sat 05/01/02 at 14:39
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Tony Hawks pro skater 2 is better for the GBA than the PS1. Even all my Playstation loving friends agree with this.
Sat 05/01/02 at 14:38
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Well it's not widely known, because basically, it's b******s.
Sat 05/01/02 at 14:22
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I was simply stating that the GBA has better 2D capabilities i thought this was widly known.
Sat 05/01/02 at 13:49
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Basically you read the GBA does 2d graphics better than the PSX is Gameplay's magazine...

Which quoted this from Ninty apparantly...

However, 2 things:

1) Ninty have twisted the facts. The GBA can do some modes that the PSX can't... so they release a press statment saying "the gba can do better 2d graphics than the PSX". Complete rubbish.

2) Gameplay simply want to sell games... not give you unbiased, conterargued opinions on the GBA's power...

Basically, the whole thing is nonsense. The PSX is FAR more powerful than the GBA, although there are a couple of things the GBA can do that the PSX can't... but this doesn't make it more powerful or better in any way!

Sonic
Sat 05/01/02 at 13:35
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