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No. Microsoft has said specifically that this is a console game system and not a PC, even though on the inside, it certainly looks a lot like a pared-down version of one. In fact, Microsoft is discouraging developers from including support for PC peripherals like the keyboard and mouse just to help console users feel at home.
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No. Microsoft has said specifically that this is a console game system and not a PC, even though on the inside, it certainly looks a lot like a pared-down version of one. In fact, Microsoft is discouraging developers from including support for PC peripherals like the keyboard and mouse just to help console users feel at home.
Are u taking a pop at the thingy you know the price and description.
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Hm, MS might be "discouraging" PC peripherals, but that does not mean that they aint gonna appear. People will start to ask why the Dreamcast and PS2 have keyboard & mouse, but not the Xbox.
Certainly, the hardware inside the Xbox is very close to PC architecture, and it is supposed to be easy to convert games from Xbox to PC (and vice-versa).
I think the Xbox will offer different features from a PC in the future, and be easier to use, but at heart, it is still a PC.
Anyone remember the CD32? Commodore denied it was an Amiga for years, then, finally said "OK. It's an Amiga". I think the same may happen with the Xbox.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think that having a PC in Consoles clothing is a bad thing.
Certainly, the hardware inside the Xbox is very close to PC architecture, and it is supposed to be easy to convert games from Xbox to PC (and vice-versa).
I think the Xbox will offer different features from a PC in the future, and be easier to use, but at heart, it is still a PC.
Anyone remember the CD32? Commodore denied it was an Amiga for years, then, finally said "OK. It's an Amiga". I think the same may happen with the Xbox.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think that having a PC in Consoles clothing is a bad thing.
yes, but the PSX was a PC in a box, as was the DC... the DC even used Windows CE!
Sonic
Sonic
funkygamer wrote:
> SonicRav wrote:
> yes, but the PSX was a PC in a box, as was the DC... the
> DC even used Windows
> CE!
Ey? In what way was the PSX a PC in a box??
>
I knew about the DC using an MS operating system, must admit, that really
> put me off it!
Well, the console was totally based on PC architecture, that made it very easy to program for, and this is what encouraged developers to join in on the PS scene and make the console a success. Oh, and you say the Windows/DC issue put you off the DC... well guess what... the PS used an Operating system to control the hardware in the exact same way as windows does on the DC!!!
Sonic
> SonicRav wrote:
> yes, but the PSX was a PC in a box, as was the DC... the
> DC even used Windows
> CE!
Ey? In what way was the PSX a PC in a box??
>
I knew about the DC using an MS operating system, must admit, that really
> put me off it!
Well, the console was totally based on PC architecture, that made it very easy to program for, and this is what encouraged developers to join in on the PS scene and make the console a success. Oh, and you say the Windows/DC issue put you off the DC... well guess what... the PS used an Operating system to control the hardware in the exact same way as windows does on the DC!!!
Sonic
SonicRav wrote:
> Well, the
> console was totally based on PC architecture, that made it very easy to program
> for, and this is what encouraged developers to join in on the PS scene and make
> the console a success. Oh, and you say the Windows/DC issue put you off the
> DC... well guess what... the PS used an Operating system to control the hardware
> in the exact same way as windows does on the DC!!!
Hmmm, yeah, I didn't know the PSX was built on PC architecture, could you give examples?
As for the Operating System, well, yes, I thought it would have had some kind of firmware, but my point was, the DC used an MS Operating System, that is what put me off!!!
Funny that the DC had many reports of "rebooting" all on it's own... rather like... Oh, my Windows based PC n'est pas?!
> Well, the
> console was totally based on PC architecture, that made it very easy to program
> for, and this is what encouraged developers to join in on the PS scene and make
> the console a success. Oh, and you say the Windows/DC issue put you off the
> DC... well guess what... the PS used an Operating system to control the hardware
> in the exact same way as windows does on the DC!!!
Hmmm, yeah, I didn't know the PSX was built on PC architecture, could you give examples?
As for the Operating System, well, yes, I thought it would have had some kind of firmware, but my point was, the DC used an MS Operating System, that is what put me off!!!
Funny that the DC had many reports of "rebooting" all on it's own... rather like... Oh, my Windows based PC n'est pas?!
hopfully the x-box will basically be all the good things of a pc turned into a consol, wiv not having to upgrade with a new sound card or graphix card evey 6 months. however ive heard that in the us theres already pacthes for games that need to b downloaded. i was hoping consols were not going to go this way!
atm i will b gettin an x-box to put next my ps2 and say pah! to gamecube (thats my opinion) : )
atm i will b gettin an x-box to put next my ps2 and say pah! to gamecube (thats my opinion) : )
funkygamer wrote:
Hmmm, yeah, I didn't know the
> PSX was built on PC architecture, could you give examples?
*All the data buses
*Transfer of data between components
*Separation of jobs (so a specialised sound card insetad of the processor doing everything a la N64)
*3d graphics card architecture
So, basically, everything that attracted developers to the PSX!
As for the
> Operating System, well, yes, I thought it would have had some kind of firmware,
> but my point was, the DC used an MS Operating System, that is what put me off!!!
>
Funny that the DC had many reports of "rebooting" all on it's
> own... rather like... Oh, my Windows based PC n'est pas?!
Well, I haven't heard ANYTHING OF THIS! There were some cases of the very first Japanese DCs having some problem (just as every modern console has!), but seeing as many of my friends and myself own, or have owned DCs, from near and abroad, and also read a lots about the subject online, I can safely say that this story is being completely over exagerated. (Long sentence!)
If you didn't buy a DC because of this it shows 2 things:
1) Arrogance to the actual quality of gaming on the Dreamcast.
2) That you are easy to bias by producing rubbish like this OS problem!
Sonic
Hmmm, yeah, I didn't know the
> PSX was built on PC architecture, could you give examples?
*All the data buses
*Transfer of data between components
*Separation of jobs (so a specialised sound card insetad of the processor doing everything a la N64)
*3d graphics card architecture
So, basically, everything that attracted developers to the PSX!
As for the
> Operating System, well, yes, I thought it would have had some kind of firmware,
> but my point was, the DC used an MS Operating System, that is what put me off!!!
>
Funny that the DC had many reports of "rebooting" all on it's
> own... rather like... Oh, my Windows based PC n'est pas?!
Well, I haven't heard ANYTHING OF THIS! There were some cases of the very first Japanese DCs having some problem (just as every modern console has!), but seeing as many of my friends and myself own, or have owned DCs, from near and abroad, and also read a lots about the subject online, I can safely say that this story is being completely over exagerated. (Long sentence!)
If you didn't buy a DC because of this it shows 2 things:
1) Arrogance to the actual quality of gaming on the Dreamcast.
2) That you are easy to bias by producing rubbish like this OS problem!
Sonic
===SONICRAV---> wrote:
>If you didn't buy a DC because of this it shows 2 things:
1)
> Arrogance to the actual quality of gaming on the Dreamcast.
2) That you are
> easy to bias by producing rubbish like this OS problem!
oohhhh, handbag!
1) I couldn't afford a Dreamcast at the time anyway, what with buying a house. I was going to wait a little while 'cos I thought the first crop of games would be crap but the 2nd crop better.
2) Easy to bias!!!! I spend all my working day sitting at a PC with an MS OS! I have used servers with the MS OS, and I can safely say, through nothing but personal experience of my own, that an MS OS is not to be trusted!
I don't know if the rebooting dreamcasts has anything to do with the OS, but it just seems funny that the DC is the only console I have heard of that reboot itself, in the way that I would expect a PC to.
The rebooting problem is one that I have heard of from many different sources, so how can it be an isolated issue?
>If you didn't buy a DC because of this it shows 2 things:
1)
> Arrogance to the actual quality of gaming on the Dreamcast.
2) That you are
> easy to bias by producing rubbish like this OS problem!
oohhhh, handbag!
1) I couldn't afford a Dreamcast at the time anyway, what with buying a house. I was going to wait a little while 'cos I thought the first crop of games would be crap but the 2nd crop better.
2) Easy to bias!!!! I spend all my working day sitting at a PC with an MS OS! I have used servers with the MS OS, and I can safely say, through nothing but personal experience of my own, that an MS OS is not to be trusted!
I don't know if the rebooting dreamcasts has anything to do with the OS, but it just seems funny that the DC is the only console I have heard of that reboot itself, in the way that I would expect a PC to.
The rebooting problem is one that I have heard of from many different sources, so how can it be an isolated issue?
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