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Thu 22/11/01 at 16:28
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Well plenty of us have been going on about smackdown 3 and its downfalls (and strong points). How bout we all discuss what we would like to see in the next game (no doubt there will be another one made). Some of course will be obvious, but some of you might have some things that you'd like to see which haven't been mentioned through the topics :-)
Maybe you have an answer for one of the downfalls that could be worked on. By the way, try going on the THQ site thats on the game box, looks like a forum will be running soon where you can leave messages about this game, so everyone should hopefully get their views accross for feedback for the makers of the Smackdown series. Anyway, heres my ideas and stuff.......

Obviously the story mode needs to be much better. I think a little more work on the backstage part is needed, it would be nice to be able to take different directions without having to lose or chicken out of a match. The story mode of course also needs to be longer and when your defending your title, it would be nice to get the odd special match such as fatal 4 way, or cage match rather than just constant 1 on 1. Also, it'd be nice if other players could enter the story mode too so you can all develop some progress for your characters. Think it would need to be a come and go system though with rankings like the old SD2, it would be annoying if you had to wait for your friends to play in order to carry on. There should also be more freedom in selecting a tag team partner if you wish to be in a tag team. I had 2 created characters I wanted to put together and I had to keep going in and out of story mode till I was able to get them put together.

I think belts should be able to change hands in exhibition matches. If a belt holder is chosen to enter, you should be able to decide if their title is up for grabs. Create a PPV would also be a welcome return !

No 8 man tag ??? One of the best things about the old Survivor series awhile back was the 4 man a side elimination match - this would be such a good match to have added ! SD3 has already showed it can cope with that amount of wrestlers in the ring so I don't see why it can't be put in.

Out of ring costume. In SD3, you will see characters such as Stone Cold or Triple H wearing t-shirts and jeans when they're backstage, it'd be nice if you could do something similar with your created wrestler.

The commentary was dire ! Stringing different bits together just doesn't work, it doesn't sound right. Of course it would take ages if it was done so that comments are personalised for every character, so why not leave names out ? I would much rather have Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler (now that he's coming back) doing the commentary with stuff like "goes for the cover !" and "as god as my witness he is broken in half !!!" when you do something really spectacular. Names aren't needed to make the commentary great. You could even have Ross and Lawler exchanging banter here and there like they do when they've been together. Theres so much that Jim Ross in particular says that we all know, it could make for some great commentary. Maybe you could even have the guest commentators occassionally - think this was supposed to be in SD3 orginally.

Hell in a Cell. It would be great if you could throw an opponent off the top of the cell - especially onto the announce tables below, smashing them in the process. Maybe also the wrestlers could be busted open after being hit enough with a chair or having their face slammed against the cage wall, etc. This could also lead to first blood matches being put into the game.

Create a wrestler. This has been done really well, lots of fun to be had on it. Only thing is, a lot of choices on things like the head choices and stuff make your character look like a complete freak all too quickly. It would be nice to have slight variations on stuff like increasing the size of the forehead without having to go suddenly into choices that make your wrestler look like their skull is a freeze block with a jaw. Maybe a way to do this is to make a choice, then go into a similar thing such as when your choosing your height/length where theres a bar where you can stretch certain parts. If possible, it'd also be nice to have more slots than 12 to create wrestlers. I still have plenty of ideas but no slots left to use. My friends have created wrestlers too, so after all of us making a tag team we can play as and stuff, the slots soon run out.

I have other ideas but these are the main ones that come to me right now. I'll probably put more accross if other people add to this :-)
Thu 22/11/01 at 22:49
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Got it from EB cause i reserved it there awhile back. I buy plenty of games at SR too though before they start sending me hate mail and black listing me for gameadays in future ;-))

The first game was scratched so at least it didn't take much working out to know what was wrong. But this time the disk hasn't got one scratch, its really weird. So i guess its either my PS2 - which i got from SR, or its a bug in the game. Its just weird that it started doing it all of a sudden and it was doing it during like every match after that. I'm wondering if my PS2 was just on for 2 long. Like the old PS1 - when the system heats up, the lens was affected at time making games crash or sound go weird. Like i said, its only the 2 wrestlers that freeze, everything else like the timer, the ref and other wrestlers all carry on doing stuff.
Thu 22/11/01 at 22:41
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Sounds like your having a lot of trouble with the game mate, if the 3rd copy doesn't work properly, then it could be your ps2, if its crashing and not doing what its supposed to do, out of interest, where did you get the game from?
Thu 22/11/01 at 22:38
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Yeah, gonna try that tomorrow. Already changed it once - but the other copy DID have scatches and there was a lot more wrong with it than that. Last damn copy crashed during a save and i lost all my created wrestlers and everything i'd earned so i had to start again. I'm sure you can all picture the scene, full of violent cursing and screaming ;-))

But before anyone gets worried on that problem with crashing, the disk was scratched and stuff so don't panic and start holding your breath everytime your game saves
;-))
Thu 22/11/01 at 22:31
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savatt1668 wrote:
> I've noticed that whenever it did freeze, it was when i grappled. Like when i'd
> pick someone up off the floor. Same with the comp ones that it happened with
> once. So if it happens thats when to expect it. I thought it might be
> struggling to deal with the amount of wrestlers at first, but then it happened
> during an iron man match between a created character i did and lita. I was
> winning 27-0 after like 15 mins, then it froze on me :-( I decided to let
> the time run out so i got the win though, but still damn annoying.


You must have a faulty copy, try borrowing someone elses or try yours on their ps2, if you can't, get it exchanged for a new one :)
Thu 22/11/01 at 22:30
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Yeah i've had that with my friends during ladder matches and TLC's, etc. Its ashame THQ have rushed it for the money when it could have been the best wrestling game ever. I'm praying they'll make a 4th game now and actually sit down and think about it more, rather just shove out any old tosh just cause they know the series will sell.
Thu 22/11/01 at 22:24
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I've noticed that whenever it did freeze, it was when i grappled. Like when i'd pick someone up off the floor. Same with the comp ones that it happened with once. So if it happens thats when to expect it. I thought it might be struggling to deal with the amount of wrestlers at first, but then it happened during an iron man match between a created character i did and lita. I was winning 27-0 after like 15 mins, then it froze on me :-( I decided to let the time run out so i got the win though, but still damn annoying.
Thu 22/11/01 at 22:23
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Triple_H wrote:
> I saw a bug in the game round my mates house today. I was climbing a ladder and
> then someone knocked the ladder down, but the wrestler stayed in the air!!!Very
> weird


Yeah that happened to me too!, my mates were playing in the ladder match, i locked one of my mates in the walls of jericho ontop of the ladder, while i was doing it, my other mate knocked the ladder, and i was still doing the move in mid air, try it, it looks really dodgy, i think they should have implemented an animation so that if someone knocks the ladder then your both fall off...shame
Thu 22/11/01 at 22:18
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There are quite a lot of bugs in the game. Try doing some different moves through a table. Some moves will see some really weird things happen.
Thu 22/11/01 at 22:16
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I saw a bug in the game round my mates house today. I was climbing a ladder and then someone knocked the ladder down, but the wrestler stayed in the air!!!Very weird
Thu 22/11/01 at 22:04
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That sounds very strange, it hasn't happened to me, sometimes they seem to stuggle to get into the ring but on the 3rd attempt they manage it, i will look out for the bug you have mentioned, but i have yet to see it, maybe you have a faulty copy or something? unless someone else has had the same problem.

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