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Tue 13/11/01 at 23:30
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When it comes to the future of gaming I expertise especially when it involves Nintendo. Sadly offering you a balanced opinion and offering you both sides of the argument is both something I can't do and boring so here I will write why it should be Nintendo whom should triumph above the rest.

The N64 had problems yes it was a good system with stunning titles from Nintendo and it's 2nd party developers particularly RARE so with this awesome strength the console why did it cower in the shadow of the Playstation? Simple the Playstation appealed to 3rd party developers they are people who develop for all systems and the N64 wasn't just hard to work on but also expensive (due to cartridges). Now though times have changed, Nintendo have finally upgraded to disc format it is sad to say goodbye to the versatile cartridges but this new Disc format is very similar to Carts. For starters due to the size of the disc not only is it hard to pirate but it also has amazingly short loading times, unnoticeable in some cases (the discs look pretty nifty as well).

So the new disc format is very clever and now 3rd party developers that were attracted to Sony's shiny discs are now attracted to Nintendo as well. Nintendo have also made the Gamecube very very very easy to work on compared to the PS2, which has been described as a pig to programme. So ok how does the effect us? Well it means 3rd parties, which made Sony so popular, are flocking to the Gamecube. Namco makers of classic titles such as Tekken, Soul Calibur and Ridge Racer is bringing no less than 6 Gamecube titles ALREADY a company that took 4 years to commit to the N64 has committed to the Gamecube before it's release with titles including Soul Calibur, Ridge Racer and it is heavily rumored that a Tekken game is in the pipeline.

It isn't just Namco, Capcom famous for MegaMan, Street Fighter and Resident Evil is committing themselves to the Gamecube with tones of titles including Mickey Mouse and 6!!! Resident Evil games a remade and gorgeous Resident Evil and ports of Resident Evil 2/3 and Code Veronica as well as Resident Evil 0 and 4 all EXCLUSIVE to Gamecube which means that no more Resident Evil games are coming out on Playstation 2 or X-box.

Nintendo have also given the Gamecube a low price tag after throwing away the ability to play DVD's and CD's (although a special Panasonic is being released in Japan that allows this). Some of you may see this as a downside to the Gamecube, I don't. If you want a DVD player then get a DVD player if you want a Games Console then get a Games Console these new Multi-Media systems such as the X-box and PS2 have substandard versions of both games console and DVD player. The Gamecube’s Controller is new and comfortable the X-box is huge, ugly and difficult to negotiate the PS2's is nice but it feels the same as the last one (it has more pressure points I know) and therefore makes the PS2 feel like the same old PS1 it just doesn’t make the console feel Next generation.

Nintendo have also signed new second party developers on bored including Silicon Knights, Retro Studios, Left Field and Camelot (as well as RARE and HAL of course). These developers are stunning and with the increase of 3rd party support the Gamecube is a must buy. Nintendo are not childish either Mario and Pokemon are not childish get rid of Pokèmon’s cute graphics and you have animals stabbing, burning, shooting, cutting, hitting, kicking and blowing up each other that’s barley legal and with games such as Conker (that rude gory platformer), Perfect Dark, Metroid, Too Human, Eternal Darkness, 6 Resident Evil titles, Agent Under fire, Turok etc... etc... how can you call them childish?

The console has been described as a childs play toy but stack 10 CD cases up and you'll realize how small and compact the console is.

These are few of the best future Gamecube releases:

Mario Sunshine, Perfect Dark 0, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Zelda GC, Resident Evil, Mickey Mouse, Super Smash Brothers: Melee, Pokemon Game, Resident Evil 2, Starfox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet, Kameo: elements of power, Donkey Kong Racing, James Bond: Agent Under Fire, Turok Evolution, Too Human, Luigi's Mansion, Resident Evil 3, Metroid, Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure 2, Kirby Tilt and Tumble, Mario Kart GC, Wave Race: Blue Storm, Super Monkey Ball, Pikmin, Eternal Darkness, Star Wars rogue leader, Resident Evil 0, Soul Calibur 2, Simpson's Road Rage, 1080 Snowboarding 2, Conker's Other Bad Day (not yet official), Resident Evil 4, Animal Forest, Virtual Striker, Phantasy Star Online V2, Skies of Arcadia, Marionette, FIFA, ISS, Castlevania, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, Extreme G3, 100 Mario's and so many many many more...

Along with all of them (only 6 or 7 of which appear on the Playstation 2) Nintendo's super hand held the Gameboy Advance links up with the Gamecube more than ever in games such as Kirby Tilt and Tumble, Animal Forest and Sonic Adventure 2 (it can be used as an alternative controller) and with Sega's Sonic Team offering full support (they make Sonic, NiGHTS and Phantasy Star online) The Gamecube is one of the worlds most essential consoles.

Here's to the future

Dringo
Mon 19/11/01 at 16:19
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>For starters due to the size of the disc not only is it >hard to pirate but it also has amazingly short loading >times, unnoticeable in some cases (the discs look pretty >nifty as well).

*chortle* And did you know that you've got to store the discs flat, or all the data falls off them too.....
Mon 19/11/01 at 16:09
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So it was... sorry, I misread things!
Mon 19/11/01 at 16:08
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Sibs wrote:
> Anyone who says Nintendo is just for kids is pretty and dumb. Oh no, I mean
> pretty dumb.

Thanks! :-)

In my opinion it's very immature to say a game is mature because
> it is violent or has 'realistic' looks.

Movies and games with that kind of content are often given an 18 certificate, making them mature by default.

> A game is not for kids because it looks
> cartoony,

Yes it is. Its not 100% always the case, but usually cartoons are for kids because they find it more pleasing and easy to understand. That is why kids tv is mostly cartoons, whilst adult tv consists of very little in the way of cartoons.

Nintendo just want all audiences to be able to play it. But Mario 64,
> seriously, could any old 'kiddie' complete that game? no, it'd take a kid who
> had quite a bit of gaming experience and skill to win it.

Gaming experience? What rubbish. All games just take a little practice. It doesn`t matter if you are a "platform veteran" or anything like that.

And saying Conkers
> BFD is for kids is like saying South Park was designed for kids.

Not kids perhaps in their cases, but young teens. Same thing.

Nintendo
> games are like the Simpsons cartoon series. Anyone can enjoy them, but older or
> more experienced people will get their full meaning, and understand all of it.
> (some of the Simpsons episodes actually make some pretty good points about
> modern life)

Some are like the Simpsons, but certainly not all. Most are targeted at much younger people.
Mon 19/11/01 at 16:05
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Wookiee, that's exactly what Sibs said.

2 new games (0 and 4)
One overhaul (1)
And 3 conversion with polished up graphics and possibly a few secrets thrown in here and there (2,3 and V).

:-)
Mon 19/11/01 at 15:53
"High polygon count"
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Sibs wrote:
> Ok it is 'only' a 6 game exclusive, but that is two new games to make, one to totally revamp, and
> three to port (but with slightly better graphics, and probably some GC only
> features).

Mikami said that, of the original games, only RE1 is being overhauled, the rest will be straight ports, otherwise RE4 will be 6 years away.
Mon 19/11/01 at 15:33
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Apparently, Resident Evil 4 is the last in the series.
Besides, Capcom and Nintendo are a lot closer than you think.

Aside from this Resi agreement, Capcom have announced a completely original GC exclusive, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear announcements for GC ports of Maximo and the Devil May Cry.

And when Nintendo let a company develop 2 Gameboy Colour Zelda games, well it's obvious that Capcom do seem to be getting on with Nintendo very well lately...
Mon 19/11/01 at 14:59
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Dringo wrote:
I wrote this to rattle your cage TBN
> and well look it did, 6 exclusive yes but all the rest of the sereis which may
> or may not be PS2/3 will also be on a Nintendo console.

I doubt it, The only reason they're on the gamecube is because the PS2 is hard to work with. If the PS3 launches in 2003 I can't see capcom staying with Nintendo in fact the resident evil's are the only games Capcom are releasing on the gamecube, They'll return for the PS3 no doubt with another heap of ports,resident evil 5 and those annoying black borders :-)
Sun 18/11/01 at 21:27
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Turbonutter saud:

Here's to the future

Turbonutter

Out of everything you wrote that was the most annoying.

I wrote this to rattle your cage TBN and well look it did, 6 exclusive yes but all the rest of the sereis which may or may not be PS2/3 will also be on a Nintendo console.
Sun 18/11/01 at 20:53
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I have a PS2 with 8 games now.
And do you know what? the majority of them are not what I hoped them to be. Sure the games might be great but what ever happened to the great visuals?
They are definately not Next Gen quality. But some of the gameplay more than makes up for it, which I am pleased with.
For instance as for visuals, put Tony Hawks 3-PS2 up against Tony Hawks 3 -GC and you'll see how better GC TH3 looks! And they where released at the same time.
And take a look at Madden, SSXTricky, NFL Blitz and XG3 which are PS2/GC releases, then compare them.
Sun 18/11/01 at 20:46
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Turbonutter wrote:
> I just couldn't let this post past unscathed.


FFS, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SIZE OF THE BLOODY DISCS! WHY
> CAN'T YOU SEEM TO GET THIS INTO YOUR THICK SKULL???

You idiot. It's a 6-game exclusive only, 4 of which
> are ports. After that they will come back.


Listen Turbo-no-nuts, it's not very nice to be rude to people, especially when they get all the facts right.
I have a PS2 aswell as wanting a Gamecube but 98% of the PS2s current releases are a load of old @*£#.
And as for the new Resident Evil..well tough luck Sony fans.

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