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Tue 13/11/01 at 23:30
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When it comes to the future of gaming I expertise especially when it involves Nintendo. Sadly offering you a balanced opinion and offering you both sides of the argument is both something I can't do and boring so here I will write why it should be Nintendo whom should triumph above the rest.

The N64 had problems yes it was a good system with stunning titles from Nintendo and it's 2nd party developers particularly RARE so with this awesome strength the console why did it cower in the shadow of the Playstation? Simple the Playstation appealed to 3rd party developers they are people who develop for all systems and the N64 wasn't just hard to work on but also expensive (due to cartridges). Now though times have changed, Nintendo have finally upgraded to disc format it is sad to say goodbye to the versatile cartridges but this new Disc format is very similar to Carts. For starters due to the size of the disc not only is it hard to pirate but it also has amazingly short loading times, unnoticeable in some cases (the discs look pretty nifty as well).

So the new disc format is very clever and now 3rd party developers that were attracted to Sony's shiny discs are now attracted to Nintendo as well. Nintendo have also made the Gamecube very very very easy to work on compared to the PS2, which has been described as a pig to programme. So ok how does the effect us? Well it means 3rd parties, which made Sony so popular, are flocking to the Gamecube. Namco makers of classic titles such as Tekken, Soul Calibur and Ridge Racer is bringing no less than 6 Gamecube titles ALREADY a company that took 4 years to commit to the N64 has committed to the Gamecube before it's release with titles including Soul Calibur, Ridge Racer and it is heavily rumored that a Tekken game is in the pipeline.

It isn't just Namco, Capcom famous for MegaMan, Street Fighter and Resident Evil is committing themselves to the Gamecube with tones of titles including Mickey Mouse and 6!!! Resident Evil games a remade and gorgeous Resident Evil and ports of Resident Evil 2/3 and Code Veronica as well as Resident Evil 0 and 4 all EXCLUSIVE to Gamecube which means that no more Resident Evil games are coming out on Playstation 2 or X-box.

Nintendo have also given the Gamecube a low price tag after throwing away the ability to play DVD's and CD's (although a special Panasonic is being released in Japan that allows this). Some of you may see this as a downside to the Gamecube, I don't. If you want a DVD player then get a DVD player if you want a Games Console then get a Games Console these new Multi-Media systems such as the X-box and PS2 have substandard versions of both games console and DVD player. The Gamecube’s Controller is new and comfortable the X-box is huge, ugly and difficult to negotiate the PS2's is nice but it feels the same as the last one (it has more pressure points I know) and therefore makes the PS2 feel like the same old PS1 it just doesn’t make the console feel Next generation.

Nintendo have also signed new second party developers on bored including Silicon Knights, Retro Studios, Left Field and Camelot (as well as RARE and HAL of course). These developers are stunning and with the increase of 3rd party support the Gamecube is a must buy. Nintendo are not childish either Mario and Pokemon are not childish get rid of Pokèmon’s cute graphics and you have animals stabbing, burning, shooting, cutting, hitting, kicking and blowing up each other that’s barley legal and with games such as Conker (that rude gory platformer), Perfect Dark, Metroid, Too Human, Eternal Darkness, 6 Resident Evil titles, Agent Under fire, Turok etc... etc... how can you call them childish?

The console has been described as a childs play toy but stack 10 CD cases up and you'll realize how small and compact the console is.

These are few of the best future Gamecube releases:

Mario Sunshine, Perfect Dark 0, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Zelda GC, Resident Evil, Mickey Mouse, Super Smash Brothers: Melee, Pokemon Game, Resident Evil 2, Starfox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet, Kameo: elements of power, Donkey Kong Racing, James Bond: Agent Under Fire, Turok Evolution, Too Human, Luigi's Mansion, Resident Evil 3, Metroid, Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure 2, Kirby Tilt and Tumble, Mario Kart GC, Wave Race: Blue Storm, Super Monkey Ball, Pikmin, Eternal Darkness, Star Wars rogue leader, Resident Evil 0, Soul Calibur 2, Simpson's Road Rage, 1080 Snowboarding 2, Conker's Other Bad Day (not yet official), Resident Evil 4, Animal Forest, Virtual Striker, Phantasy Star Online V2, Skies of Arcadia, Marionette, FIFA, ISS, Castlevania, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, Extreme G3, 100 Mario's and so many many many more...

Along with all of them (only 6 or 7 of which appear on the Playstation 2) Nintendo's super hand held the Gameboy Advance links up with the Gamecube more than ever in games such as Kirby Tilt and Tumble, Animal Forest and Sonic Adventure 2 (it can be used as an alternative controller) and with Sega's Sonic Team offering full support (they make Sonic, NiGHTS and Phantasy Star online) The Gamecube is one of the worlds most essential consoles.

Here's to the future

Dringo
Mon 19/11/01 at 20:16
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ssxpro wrote:
> Sibs wrote:
> Anyone who says Nintendo is just for kids is pretty and dumb.
> Oh no, I mean
> pretty dumb.

Thanks! :-)

In my opinion it's very
> immature to say a game is mature because
> it is violent or has 'realistic'
> looks.

Movies and games with that kind of content are often given an 18
> certificate, making them mature by default.

Loads of 18's are just mindless excuses to have loads of big guns shooting the living $*** out of various stuff. Is that very mature???

> A game is not for kids
> because it looks
> cartoony,

Yes it is. Its not 100% always the case, but
> usually cartoons are for kids because they find it more pleasing and easy to
> understand. That is why kids tv is mostly cartoons, whilst adult tv consists of
> very little in the way of cartoons.

Yeah, you just contradicted yourself... :-)
Maybe MOST, but by no means ALL!

Nintendo just want all audiences to be
> able to play it. But Mario 64,
> seriously, could any old 'kiddie' complete
> that game? no, it'd take a kid who
> had quite a bit of gaming experience
> and skill to win it.

Gaming experience? What rubbish. All games just take a
> little practice. It doesn`t matter if you are a "platform veteran" or
> anything like that.

Sit a kid with no experience in gaming down to play Mario 64. It'll take him a lot longer to complete it than a kid who has experience playing platformers and games in general (if indeed he/she can complete it at all). I don't mean you have to be a gaming veteran, but if you practice at Mario 64, then that gives you some experience. Seriously, if someone who hadn't played the game sat down to try to complete a later level, I doubt they'd get far, unless they had a natural skill at games.


And saying Conkers
> BFD is for kids is like saying
> South Park was designed for kids.

Not kids perhaps in their cases, but young
> teens. Same thing.

Do young kids go out and get drunk and smoke? (well maybe some do...) but generally no. So then teens and younge kids aren't the same are they?

Nintendo
> games are like the Simpsons cartoon series.
> Anyone can enjoy them, but older or
> more experienced people will get their
> full meaning, and understand all of it.
> (some of the Simpsons episodes
> actually make some pretty good points about
> modern life)

Some are like
> the Simpsons, but certainly not all. Most are targeted at much younger people.

Most on PSX and PS2 that look cartoony are aimed at youngsters. But Nintendos games are by no means just for kids, as experienced gamers will still find them a challenge. (maybe not Luigi's Mansion, but other than that..)
Mon 19/11/01 at 17:12
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Dringo wrote:
> But i never see you at all anymore!

Cos I hardly ever run it! I've said before, I get such an explosion of windows whenever I do sign on, that I can't answer everyone. Then all I get is "why are you ignoring me"... so I rarely bother!
Mon 19/11/01 at 17:11
"High polygon count"
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I actually played a BGA the other day - had some Mario guff on it.

First impression was that it doesn't look that much better than the Game Gear I traded in a few weeks ago.

But before you say it, I know it's more powerful... it just seems wasted on such a low-res screen. It's exactly why handhelds aren't my thing.

That's not to say that it's bad, though... just doesn't appeal to me.
Mon 19/11/01 at 17:10
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WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> That'll be because I'm at work and not running MSN...

But i never see you at all anymore!
Mon 19/11/01 at 17:08
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Ah, that's the TV series Wookiee, not the game.

Pokemon - Watched by kids, played by adults and kids alike in a set of wonderful Gameboy RPG's.

Even "Mr Mature and Grown up" Turbonutter is a Pokemon master, catching them all on Pokemon blue.

And countless adults have bought a GBA to play that "kiddie" Mario Kart game...
Mon 19/11/01 at 17:06
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That'll be because I'm at work and not running MSN...
Mon 19/11/01 at 17:04
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Erm yes, Wookiee why don't i see you on MSN? I see your counterpart but not you (YH) :)
Mon 19/11/01 at 16:41
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Dringo wrote:
> Conker = cute = adult

Tom & Jerry = cute = adult = watched by adults


Pokemon = cute = adult = watched by...

:-)
Mon 19/11/01 at 16:26
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Never judge on Graphics:

Conker = cute = adult
Pokemon = cute = adult (are you trying to tell me animals stabbing, kicking, hitting, burning, shooting, cutting and blowing eachother up is a game for kids)

I reitterate NEVER JUDGE ON GRAPHICS!
Mon 19/11/01 at 16:25
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Ssxpro, calling the Gamecube a kids machine, is like calling the PS2 a sequel station.

Both are based on semi truths but are over exadurated and are cheap ammunition for propaganda campaigns.

It's normally best to leave these sterotypes out of arguments.

Especially as they're not really very accurate.

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