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Fri 09/11/01 at 10:29
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Right. There has been a fair amount of nastiness on this forum and it ends here.

When I started here this place was pretty much dead, with people coming here more to get a bit of help rather than chat. I have seen (and hopefully helped) the web forum develop into a small community.

We have realised that many of us have a lot in common, and between us we have a wide range of skills that has got to a point where SR are sponsoring us to set up a website offering help.

Though we are all varied in our backgrounds and we all have different ways of assessing and dealing with issues, we must work as a team now more than ever instead of being at eachothers throats about minor issues. We all have specialist skills that will make this site a success and rather than argue on who does something better, learn from the other person and develop your skills accordingly.

As I see it, for this site of ours to be a true success, we must forget about minor issues, personal grudges, "mine's better than yours", "my dads harder than yours" and so on. Out of all the forums on this site this is the one that for me feels like it has the tightest group, and I feel like a member rather than a user. I'd like to see it kept that way.

Can't we all just get along? :)

Slave.
Thu 22/11/01 at 14:24
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"l33t cs50r"
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Turbonutter wrote:
> Well once you upgrade to Apache and PHP, your site should run a hell of a lot
> faster and be more stable. You would probably find writing new code faster as
> well.

Also.. it isn't just one server we'd need...

We'd need a farm of 28 Racks (including back up) and our current farm is only 5 months old!! Again, cost is the Issue!!
Thu 22/11/01 at 14:22
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Turbonutter wrote:
> Well once you upgrade to Apache and PHP, your site should run a hell of a lot
> faster and be more stable. You would probably find writing new code faster as
> well.

To redevelop over 200+ sites to accomodate PHP would cost more than to contine with our current strategy. If was easy as flicking a switch, then maybe, but the man hours vs. hardware/services is outweighed considerably.

Our team only consists of around 8 Developers, 1 dedicated designer (me) and 16+ producers all working on multiple sites at once (we produce about 150 a year). For us to redev the existing infrastructure we would have to stop all of what we are currently doing and start from scratch wich would also affect our current full text databases holding over 30,000 titles and over 1,000,000 pdf's...

(We're it, globally, so as well as our office here, we have Tokyo, Boston, Sydney, Honk Kong, Copenhagen etc whihc would all need modifying!!)

We have looked into other solutions and are currently looking at XML extensivley to deliver our content instead but while all of our developers use ASP, and whilst we contine to stay purely MS in infrastructure, we won't be changing.

Just imagine the cost? and in business, it's the costs that count!!
Thu 22/11/01 at 13:15
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"Eff, you see, kay?"
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Well once you upgrade to Apache and PHP, your site should run a hell of a lot faster and be more stable. You would probably find writing new code faster as well.
Thu 22/11/01 at 08:11
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"l33t cs50r"
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Turbonutter wrote:
> What about the speed and time management issue?

Please expand a little? and I will endevour to answer you query!! (**Damn, slipped into Customer service mode!!**)
Wed 21/11/01 at 17:57
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"Eff, you see, kay?"
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What about the speed and time management issue?
Wed 21/11/01 at 15:29
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"l33t cs50r"
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Turbonutter wrote:
> Ah, but what about when MS finally forces you to switch to WinXP?

And? As I said, we dont worry about that... we turnover in excess of £30 million a year and plough about 4 million of that a year into IT and our Web infrastructure... So again.. money and cost really isn't a problem!!
Wed 21/11/01 at 15:04
"I hate that!!!"
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Turbonutter wrote:
> Ah, but what about when MS finally forces you to switch to WinXP? windows xp is expenseive about £400 isn't it?

well here's somin for ya my dad got it for free.
Mon 19/11/01 at 19:58
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"Eff, you see, kay?"
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Ah, but what about when MS finally forces you to switch to WinXP?
Mon 19/11/01 at 08:03
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Bob wrote:
> I know converting is hard (we converted all our sites from Lasso to PHP) but it
> is worth while. The thing is you may have the currentt licencs but what about
> when you upgrade or add more servers?

We've just upgraded our infrastructure which will give us enough space for the next 5 years at least... If I could remeber it all, I'd post the hard ware list!!

As I keep saying... I don't have control over the hardware etc, and for a company of our size, we really don't need to worry about the expense!;)
Mon 19/11/01 at 06:18
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I know converting is hard (we converted all our sites from Lasso to PHP) but it is worth while. The thing is you may have the currentt licencs but what about when you upgrade or add more servers?

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