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I read Digitiser today.
Its always a bad idea.
Don`t know why I bothered.
It talked about a vote held by CVG, that asked "people" what their favourite games were. They then compiled a "Top 100" list. Something like 7 of the top 10 were N64 titles. Including the top 2 I believe.
So, the deduction is that the N64 titles are the best... Nintendo rule, Sony are rubbish, only for casual gamers... etc....
Erm? There are many flaws to this. First of all:
No matter what people say, it has to be admitted that the range of choice on N64 is a little... limited. There may be good games, but they are released once every decade or two. This means that if you ask an N64 fan what their favourite game is, its quite likely to be one of those select few, which will add greatly to the votes received by those games.
You take an owner of a Sony console, and whilst it may *possibly* be argued that there aren`t as many gold platinum, medal winning, award achieving, ground breaking, mind numbingly excellent titles, there are loads and loads of good games. People are given such a huge choice that they won`t all agree on what`s best. Some will vote for this... some will vote for that... and others will vote for something else entirely different - not just platformers and a couple of FPSs. That cuts the vote count for all Sony games straight away.
The second point is equally important, though I`m sure there will be many of you who are exceptions:
The most likely people to have voted in this survey (though I don`t know for sure) are the readers of CVG. This as far as I know is a multi format magazine, so in theory it should have a fairly even spread of various console owners - wrong, and majorly so.
At present, the most recent console released is the PS2 (in the UK). As a result, if you walk into a Magazine store, you are confronted by mostly PS2/PS magazines, and a handful of PC mags. After careful hunting, you may find multi-format mags, and occasional DC/N64 mags. My point is that if you have a PS, then you`re very likely to buy PS mags, and no multi-format mags such as CVG. If you have an N64, it may be more sensible to buy multi-format, as you may be undecided what console to move onto. Do you switch to Sony, or march with Microsoft? It could make you go for mags such as CVG. Therefore - the mag readers are biased in the favour of Nintendo/Sega.
As a result - don`t believe those figures, or that survey. Whilst I know some of you may be exceptions to what I`ve said above, it is true for many other people.
Statistics are so hard to trust these days, unless you know everything there is to know about your sample.
Its always a bad idea.
Don`t know why I bothered.
It talked about a vote held by CVG, that asked "people" what their favourite games were. They then compiled a "Top 100" list. Something like 7 of the top 10 were N64 titles. Including the top 2 I believe.
So, the deduction is that the N64 titles are the best... Nintendo rule, Sony are rubbish, only for casual gamers... etc....
Erm? There are many flaws to this. First of all:
No matter what people say, it has to be admitted that the range of choice on N64 is a little... limited. There may be good games, but they are released once every decade or two. This means that if you ask an N64 fan what their favourite game is, its quite likely to be one of those select few, which will add greatly to the votes received by those games.
You take an owner of a Sony console, and whilst it may *possibly* be argued that there aren`t as many gold platinum, medal winning, award achieving, ground breaking, mind numbingly excellent titles, there are loads and loads of good games. People are given such a huge choice that they won`t all agree on what`s best. Some will vote for this... some will vote for that... and others will vote for something else entirely different - not just platformers and a couple of FPSs. That cuts the vote count for all Sony games straight away.
The second point is equally important, though I`m sure there will be many of you who are exceptions:
The most likely people to have voted in this survey (though I don`t know for sure) are the readers of CVG. This as far as I know is a multi format magazine, so in theory it should have a fairly even spread of various console owners - wrong, and majorly so.
At present, the most recent console released is the PS2 (in the UK). As a result, if you walk into a Magazine store, you are confronted by mostly PS2/PS magazines, and a handful of PC mags. After careful hunting, you may find multi-format mags, and occasional DC/N64 mags. My point is that if you have a PS, then you`re very likely to buy PS mags, and no multi-format mags such as CVG. If you have an N64, it may be more sensible to buy multi-format, as you may be undecided what console to move onto. Do you switch to Sony, or march with Microsoft? It could make you go for mags such as CVG. Therefore - the mag readers are biased in the favour of Nintendo/Sega.
As a result - don`t believe those figures, or that survey. Whilst I know some of you may be exceptions to what I`ve said above, it is true for many other people.
Statistics are so hard to trust these days, unless you know everything there is to know about your sample.
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Yes but at the end of the day, it's very select group who found Zelda boring. All the multi console magazines rated it as one of the best if not the best game ever.
To say that Spyro was the same as Mario 64 is just stupid, Spyro was a terrible rip off, there wasn't one game on the Playstation that even came close to the brilliance of Mario 64.
To say that Spyro was the same as Mario 64 is just stupid, Spyro was a terrible rip off, there wasn't one game on the Playstation that even came close to the brilliance of Mario 64.
Tiltawhirl wrote:
> Wow a chart in a mag said that out of the top 10 games ever, 7 of them where
> from the N64. It's probably true, other than Final Fantasy 7 and Metal Gear
> Solid how many ground breaking original games can you actually name on the
> Playstation?
There where a lot of good games, but nothing really stood out
> from the crowd of bad 3rd party releases, most of the PS games where where
> either okay or good, hardly any of them where amazing.
I don't care what you
> think about Zelda and Mario games ,the fact is they where ground breaking, they
> where amazing.
Ah, but in many people's opinions they weren't ground-breaking. I found Zelda dull after a while, and Mario? Spyro was the same-you were able to go anywhere you wanted, unlike Crash.
Mnay ground-breaking titles were released on the PSX-MGS, Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo being 3 of them, and in fact, the N64 had nothing to offer racing-wise.
I looked at a list of N64 games yesterday, and there were a maximum of 5 games I would spend money, a couple of them being questionable.
> Wow a chart in a mag said that out of the top 10 games ever, 7 of them where
> from the N64. It's probably true, other than Final Fantasy 7 and Metal Gear
> Solid how many ground breaking original games can you actually name on the
> Playstation?
There where a lot of good games, but nothing really stood out
> from the crowd of bad 3rd party releases, most of the PS games where where
> either okay or good, hardly any of them where amazing.
I don't care what you
> think about Zelda and Mario games ,the fact is they where ground breaking, they
> where amazing.
Ah, but in many people's opinions they weren't ground-breaking. I found Zelda dull after a while, and Mario? Spyro was the same-you were able to go anywhere you wanted, unlike Crash.
Mnay ground-breaking titles were released on the PSX-MGS, Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo being 3 of them, and in fact, the N64 had nothing to offer racing-wise.
I looked at a list of N64 games yesterday, and there were a maximum of 5 games I would spend money, a couple of them being questionable.
OrÜega wrote:
I have 25+
> games for my N64 and only regret one purchase.
The N64? ;)
I have 25+
> games for my N64 and only regret one purchase.
The N64? ;)
Gamesmaster magazine Had Zelda:OOT as the best game of all time.
I have 25+ games for my N64 and only regret one purchase.
I have 25+ games for my N64 and only regret one purchase.
Wow a chart in a mag said that out of the top 10 games ever, 7 of them where from the N64. It's probably true, other than Final Fantasy 7 and Metal Gear Solid how many ground breaking original games can you actually name on the Playstation?
There where a lot of good games, but nothing really stood out from the crowd of bad 3rd party releases, most of the PS games where where either okay or good, hardly any of them where amazing.
I don't care what you think about Zelda and Mario games ,the fact is they where ground breaking, they where amazing.
There where a lot of good games, but nothing really stood out from the crowd of bad 3rd party releases, most of the PS games where where either okay or good, hardly any of them where amazing.
I don't care what you think about Zelda and Mario games ,the fact is they where ground breaking, they where amazing.
SSX pro i have 38 N64 games, 12 of which i call smash hits, shockers, amazing pieces of gaming quality erm id say about 8 on the Playstation id say, all 38 games i love and i used to own 3 more and i loved them an all.
41 N64 brilliant games there. And i dont have any mario party, i dont have golf in fact there is many of the classic 64 games i dont have including Diddy Kong Racing.
41 N64 brilliant games there. And i dont have any mario party, i dont have golf in fact there is many of the classic 64 games i dont have including Diddy Kong Racing.
I read Digitiser today.
Its always a bad idea.
Don`t know why I bothered.
It talked about a vote held by CVG, that asked "people" what their favourite games were. They then compiled a "Top 100" list. Something like 7 of the top 10 were N64 titles. Including the top 2 I believe.
So, the deduction is that the N64 titles are the best... Nintendo rule, Sony are rubbish, only for casual gamers... etc....
Erm? There are many flaws to this. First of all:
No matter what people say, it has to be admitted that the range of choice on N64 is a little... limited. There may be good games, but they are released once every decade or two. This means that if you ask an N64 fan what their favourite game is, its quite likely to be one of those select few, which will add greatly to the votes received by those games.
You take an owner of a Sony console, and whilst it may *possibly* be argued that there aren`t as many gold platinum, medal winning, award achieving, ground breaking, mind numbingly excellent titles, there are loads and loads of good games. People are given such a huge choice that they won`t all agree on what`s best. Some will vote for this... some will vote for that... and others will vote for something else entirely different - not just platformers and a couple of FPSs. That cuts the vote count for all Sony games straight away.
The second point is equally important, though I`m sure there will be many of you who are exceptions:
The most likely people to have voted in this survey (though I don`t know for sure) are the readers of CVG. This as far as I know is a multi format magazine, so in theory it should have a fairly even spread of various console owners - wrong, and majorly so.
At present, the most recent console released is the PS2 (in the UK). As a result, if you walk into a Magazine store, you are confronted by mostly PS2/PS magazines, and a handful of PC mags. After careful hunting, you may find multi-format mags, and occasional DC/N64 mags. My point is that if you have a PS, then you`re very likely to buy PS mags, and no multi-format mags such as CVG. If you have an N64, it may be more sensible to buy multi-format, as you may be undecided what console to move onto. Do you switch to Sony, or march with Microsoft? It could make you go for mags such as CVG. Therefore - the mag readers are biased in the favour of Nintendo/Sega.
As a result - don`t believe those figures, or that survey. Whilst I know some of you may be exceptions to what I`ve said above, it is true for many other people.
Statistics are so hard to trust these days, unless you know everything there is to know about your sample.
Its always a bad idea.
Don`t know why I bothered.
It talked about a vote held by CVG, that asked "people" what their favourite games were. They then compiled a "Top 100" list. Something like 7 of the top 10 were N64 titles. Including the top 2 I believe.
So, the deduction is that the N64 titles are the best... Nintendo rule, Sony are rubbish, only for casual gamers... etc....
Erm? There are many flaws to this. First of all:
No matter what people say, it has to be admitted that the range of choice on N64 is a little... limited. There may be good games, but they are released once every decade or two. This means that if you ask an N64 fan what their favourite game is, its quite likely to be one of those select few, which will add greatly to the votes received by those games.
You take an owner of a Sony console, and whilst it may *possibly* be argued that there aren`t as many gold platinum, medal winning, award achieving, ground breaking, mind numbingly excellent titles, there are loads and loads of good games. People are given such a huge choice that they won`t all agree on what`s best. Some will vote for this... some will vote for that... and others will vote for something else entirely different - not just platformers and a couple of FPSs. That cuts the vote count for all Sony games straight away.
The second point is equally important, though I`m sure there will be many of you who are exceptions:
The most likely people to have voted in this survey (though I don`t know for sure) are the readers of CVG. This as far as I know is a multi format magazine, so in theory it should have a fairly even spread of various console owners - wrong, and majorly so.
At present, the most recent console released is the PS2 (in the UK). As a result, if you walk into a Magazine store, you are confronted by mostly PS2/PS magazines, and a handful of PC mags. After careful hunting, you may find multi-format mags, and occasional DC/N64 mags. My point is that if you have a PS, then you`re very likely to buy PS mags, and no multi-format mags such as CVG. If you have an N64, it may be more sensible to buy multi-format, as you may be undecided what console to move onto. Do you switch to Sony, or march with Microsoft? It could make you go for mags such as CVG. Therefore - the mag readers are biased in the favour of Nintendo/Sega.
As a result - don`t believe those figures, or that survey. Whilst I know some of you may be exceptions to what I`ve said above, it is true for many other people.
Statistics are so hard to trust these days, unless you know everything there is to know about your sample.
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