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After reading the latest NGC magazine, I was relieved to hear that a spokeswoman from Nintendo of Europe said that the GameCube's release date has not been announced, but has been stated as Spring so that European customers aren't disappointed by any delays.
How wrong could I be?
Not only is what she said a load of rubbish, but it looks like Nintendo are delaying the release of the GameCube to September next year!
According to Codejunkies, who develop game enhancers for nearly every console said that a games publisher has revealed that "Europe is not a priority for Nintendo".
Tell us something we didn't already know!
I'm sure most of you already know how Nintendo treat us like dirt. The only exception being the release of the Game Boy Advance being released just after America had them. Ever since Nintendo have made videogames, they have been delaying European and sometimes American release dates. It happened with the N64, and with top games like 'Zelda: Ocarina of Time'.
So why delay the console this time?
Well it's not been confirmed by Nintendo themselves that they are going to delay it's release, but part of Grant Hughes article on Codejunkies says this:
"A spokesperson for Nintendo told MCV that no Euro launch date will be given "until after we have seen how the launches have gone in Japan and the US"."
Well the launch in Japan was a success (considering what had just happened) and I can't see Nintendo failing to reach audiences in the United States. However Nintendo will use anything to put off their launches in Europe.
The trouble with Nintendo, especialy Yamauchi (think that's how you spell his name), is that they are too confident. Nintendo keep having arguments with top developers like Squaresoft, and they keep delaying and rising the prices of their software, and yet they expect us all to be buying their consoles and games with no complaints. I will still be getting my GameCube, but if there is a massive delay as predicted, I wont be too happy with Nintendo about it.
So if you are excited about getting your GameCubes and seing all the new games and innovations, all I can suggest is: Don't hold your breath.
How wrong could I be?
Not only is what she said a load of rubbish, but it looks like Nintendo are delaying the release of the GameCube to September next year!
According to Codejunkies, who develop game enhancers for nearly every console said that a games publisher has revealed that "Europe is not a priority for Nintendo".
Tell us something we didn't already know!
I'm sure most of you already know how Nintendo treat us like dirt. The only exception being the release of the Game Boy Advance being released just after America had them. Ever since Nintendo have made videogames, they have been delaying European and sometimes American release dates. It happened with the N64, and with top games like 'Zelda: Ocarina of Time'.
So why delay the console this time?
Well it's not been confirmed by Nintendo themselves that they are going to delay it's release, but part of Grant Hughes article on Codejunkies says this:
"A spokesperson for Nintendo told MCV that no Euro launch date will be given "until after we have seen how the launches have gone in Japan and the US"."
Well the launch in Japan was a success (considering what had just happened) and I can't see Nintendo failing to reach audiences in the United States. However Nintendo will use anything to put off their launches in Europe.
The trouble with Nintendo, especialy Yamauchi (think that's how you spell his name), is that they are too confident. Nintendo keep having arguments with top developers like Squaresoft, and they keep delaying and rising the prices of their software, and yet they expect us all to be buying their consoles and games with no complaints. I will still be getting my GameCube, but if there is a massive delay as predicted, I wont be too happy with Nintendo about it.
So if you are excited about getting your GameCubes and seing all the new games and innovations, all I can suggest is: Don't hold your breath.
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You want to know why they havent announced a date yet? Go to Chat and i have explained all.
Cooky wrote:
> I know what you mean. It REALLY annoys me seeing Sony's LAME attempt at a
> console doing sooo well only due to the fact that it has NO competition! Why
> can't Nintendo release their console earlier and steal some of the thunder from
> Sony! I'm pretty sure that if Nintendo had released the Gamecube a lot earlier
> the Playstation 2 wouldn't be doing half aswell as it is at the moment!
That's not what Edge are saying.
> I know what you mean. It REALLY annoys me seeing Sony's LAME attempt at a
> console doing sooo well only due to the fact that it has NO competition! Why
> can't Nintendo release their console earlier and steal some of the thunder from
> Sony! I'm pretty sure that if Nintendo had released the Gamecube a lot earlier
> the Playstation 2 wouldn't be doing half aswell as it is at the moment!
That's not what Edge are saying.
Dringo wrote:
"Nice to see you again Sonic but hey why not disagree anyway."
Fair enough! That's what the boards are for after all! Tis better to dispute a problem and leave it unresolved than to resolve a problem without disputing it!
"Nintendo are making on hell of an effort to get things done when they said they will if delays occur it'll be by a few weeks at the most Nintendo WILL reaach the spring date they said that they have never guarenteed a date before so i beleive them."
Well, I personally admire Nintendo as one of the only games companies to delay a product by as long is needed to make it good, but getting back to what you are saying...
Nintendo have, indeed, never guaranteed a date before. Nor have they with the GC. Like the N64, Zelda OTT and the 64DD, they have simply pencilled in a tentative general date that is very unspecific. This makes me wonder... and worry.
If Nintendo were really serious about the European market, then they would surely have given us a date... even if it's just a month that the console would come out in. In fact, if the console is to come out in Spring, then they will start to advertise in Europe soon to makee people wait for the GC rather than buy a PS2 over Xmas. The fact is that the majority of the population doesn't know whata Gamecube is, and sees the PS2 as the only option.
"As for Gamecube knowledge well it is already spreading people i don't know (those i do know about the gamecube) are now talking about it, the console is getting slowley hyped up with game network increasing in popularity the GBA's box being used as a piece of propaganda!"
Indeed, within the gaming network there is lots of hype and excitement over the Gamecube. Amoung the general public there is not. The fact is that everyone in the country knows what a PS2 is. If you're gonna buy little Johny a console it'll be a PS2... after all, so many people have Playstations that this comes as no suprise.
As for the Gamecube, there is no hype outside the gaming comunity. At all. You make a good point about the GBA advertising the GC, but is this enough? Do you think that the population that has embraced the PS2 will suddenly drop all this because they saw a picture of a Gamecube? I certainly don't. If anything they'll see the stupidly coloured console (let's face it... it looks kiddy) and say it's just another kid's machine.
"Now as for advertisement the American one is very very intense with Dr Pepper and "cube clubs" clubs that tour the country if this happens over here particularty with the popularity of the worlds greatest soft drink which will help shive Nintendo where they belong at the top of the console market."
Well that's because Nintendo values the US market... they have even put adverts up there... but what about Europe? It's all good and well have a new Nintendo UK headquarters, but when there isn't a single piece of media about the console, you do wonder!
Sonic
"Nice to see you again Sonic but hey why not disagree anyway."
Fair enough! That's what the boards are for after all! Tis better to dispute a problem and leave it unresolved than to resolve a problem without disputing it!
"Nintendo are making on hell of an effort to get things done when they said they will if delays occur it'll be by a few weeks at the most Nintendo WILL reaach the spring date they said that they have never guarenteed a date before so i beleive them."
Well, I personally admire Nintendo as one of the only games companies to delay a product by as long is needed to make it good, but getting back to what you are saying...
Nintendo have, indeed, never guaranteed a date before. Nor have they with the GC. Like the N64, Zelda OTT and the 64DD, they have simply pencilled in a tentative general date that is very unspecific. This makes me wonder... and worry.
If Nintendo were really serious about the European market, then they would surely have given us a date... even if it's just a month that the console would come out in. In fact, if the console is to come out in Spring, then they will start to advertise in Europe soon to makee people wait for the GC rather than buy a PS2 over Xmas. The fact is that the majority of the population doesn't know whata Gamecube is, and sees the PS2 as the only option.
"As for Gamecube knowledge well it is already spreading people i don't know (those i do know about the gamecube) are now talking about it, the console is getting slowley hyped up with game network increasing in popularity the GBA's box being used as a piece of propaganda!"
Indeed, within the gaming network there is lots of hype and excitement over the Gamecube. Amoung the general public there is not. The fact is that everyone in the country knows what a PS2 is. If you're gonna buy little Johny a console it'll be a PS2... after all, so many people have Playstations that this comes as no suprise.
As for the Gamecube, there is no hype outside the gaming comunity. At all. You make a good point about the GBA advertising the GC, but is this enough? Do you think that the population that has embraced the PS2 will suddenly drop all this because they saw a picture of a Gamecube? I certainly don't. If anything they'll see the stupidly coloured console (let's face it... it looks kiddy) and say it's just another kid's machine.
"Now as for advertisement the American one is very very intense with Dr Pepper and "cube clubs" clubs that tour the country if this happens over here particularty with the popularity of the worlds greatest soft drink which will help shive Nintendo where they belong at the top of the console market."
Well that's because Nintendo values the US market... they have even put adverts up there... but what about Europe? It's all good and well have a new Nintendo UK headquarters, but when there isn't a single piece of media about the console, you do wonder!
Sonic
SonicRav wrote:
> What Cyclone fails to remember is that power does not sell consoles.. the games
> do! And look at the N64's launch in Japan...
ONE GAME! Mario 64. And guess
> what... 3 months after launch there were only 4 games on sale.
And yet you
> expect people to buy the console because of the power... sure.
In actual
> fact, the N64 was not twice the power of a PSX due to the architecture, but I
> really can't be bothered to go into that, seeing as it is totally
> irrelavant.
Thats thanks to Nintnedo desgining it really, as for Marion 64 i belive all the N64 needed was Mario 64 to survive 7 years, ok a large exageration but you know what i mean.
Sonic
> What Cyclone fails to remember is that power does not sell consoles.. the games
> do! And look at the N64's launch in Japan...
ONE GAME! Mario 64. And guess
> what... 3 months after launch there were only 4 games on sale.
And yet you
> expect people to buy the console because of the power... sure.
In actual
> fact, the N64 was not twice the power of a PSX due to the architecture, but I
> really can't be bothered to go into that, seeing as it is totally
> irrelavant.
Thats thanks to Nintnedo desgining it really, as for Marion 64 i belive all the N64 needed was Mario 64 to survive 7 years, ok a large exageration but you know what i mean.
Sonic
SonicRav wrote:
> How easily people will forget of Nintendo's failed promises!
The N64 itself
> was delayed to no end. And then many of the console's games, Zelda being the
> most notable, were also delayed. Following that, the 64DD was dealyed, by about
> 2 years(!), and then disappeared into the backstreets of Tokyo. And now there is
> the chance that the same thing could happen with the GC.... and no one believes
> it!
Well, based on past experience of Nintendo's time keeping, it would not
> suprise me. After all, you might expect some word on advertising for the console
> if it were to launch in spring... thus making some people give up getting a PS2
> at Christmas, and waiting a few months.
Indeed, outside forums such as this,
> almost no one knows what a Gamecube is! That should be worrying Nintendo into
> doing something... but clearly not!
Nice to see you again Sonic but hey why not disagree anyway.
Nintendo are making on hell of an effort to get things done when they said they will if delays occur it'll be by a few weeks at the most Nintendo WILL reaach the spring date they said that they have never guarenteed a date before so i beleive them.
As for Gamecube knowledge well it is already spreading people i don't know (those i do know about the gamecube) are now talking about it, the console is getting slowley hyped up with game network increasing in popularity the GBA's box being used as a piece of propaganda! Now as for advertisement the American one is very very intense with Dr Pepper and "cube clubs" clubs that tour the country if this happens over here particularty with the popularity of the worlds greatest soft drink which will help shive Nintendo where they belong at the top of the console market.
> How easily people will forget of Nintendo's failed promises!
The N64 itself
> was delayed to no end. And then many of the console's games, Zelda being the
> most notable, were also delayed. Following that, the 64DD was dealyed, by about
> 2 years(!), and then disappeared into the backstreets of Tokyo. And now there is
> the chance that the same thing could happen with the GC.... and no one believes
> it!
Well, based on past experience of Nintendo's time keeping, it would not
> suprise me. After all, you might expect some word on advertising for the console
> if it were to launch in spring... thus making some people give up getting a PS2
> at Christmas, and waiting a few months.
Indeed, outside forums such as this,
> almost no one knows what a Gamecube is! That should be worrying Nintendo into
> doing something... but clearly not!
Nice to see you again Sonic but hey why not disagree anyway.
Nintendo are making on hell of an effort to get things done when they said they will if delays occur it'll be by a few weeks at the most Nintendo WILL reaach the spring date they said that they have never guarenteed a date before so i beleive them.
As for Gamecube knowledge well it is already spreading people i don't know (those i do know about the gamecube) are now talking about it, the console is getting slowley hyped up with game network increasing in popularity the GBA's box being used as a piece of propaganda! Now as for advertisement the American one is very very intense with Dr Pepper and "cube clubs" clubs that tour the country if this happens over here particularty with the popularity of the worlds greatest soft drink which will help shive Nintendo where they belong at the top of the console market.
It all depends what you class as high quality. If you mean that high quality is only CD music at 196bits then yes I guess the PS had higher quality. But the power of midi is very good when used well. I mean have you played Turok 2 on the N64 and heard some of the orcestral type music in that? Pure CLASS!
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Cooky wrote:
> OrÜega have you not heard the music in Zelda OOT? Abosolutely brilliant!
I'm not saying the Music is bad, i'm just saying the N64 didnt have high quality sound like the playstation. Becasue it wasnt possible on the carts.
I do agree that the music in games like Zelda and Mario is good though, just not high quality.
> OrÜega have you not heard the music in Zelda OOT? Abosolutely brilliant!
I'm not saying the Music is bad, i'm just saying the N64 didnt have high quality sound like the playstation. Becasue it wasnt possible on the carts.
I do agree that the music in games like Zelda and Mario is good though, just not high quality.
What Cyclone fails to remember is that power does not sell consoles.. the games do! And look at the N64's launch in Japan...
ONE GAME! Mario 64. And guess what... 3 months after launch there were only 4 games on sale.
And yet you expect people to buy the console because of the power... sure.
In actual fact, the N64 was not twice the power of a PSX due to the architecture, but I really can't be bothered to go into that, seeing as it is totally irrelavant.
Sonic
ONE GAME! Mario 64. And guess what... 3 months after launch there were only 4 games on sale.
And yet you expect people to buy the console because of the power... sure.
In actual fact, the N64 was not twice the power of a PSX due to the architecture, but I really can't be bothered to go into that, seeing as it is totally irrelavant.
Sonic
That's down to the cleverness of Nintendo staff.
They made the music sound wonderful, even though it wasn't quite CD quality.
CD quality takes up loads of space.
A cartrige can only hold about 3 minutes of CD quality music, and there'd be no room for anything else!
They made the music sound wonderful, even though it wasn't quite CD quality.
CD quality takes up loads of space.
A cartrige can only hold about 3 minutes of CD quality music, and there'd be no room for anything else!
OrÜega have you not heard the music in Zelda OOT? Abosolutely brilliant!
And take for example Mario 64, first water level, {the one with the sunkenship}. In that level the music starts normally {one of my all time fav. computer game music tracks}, and when you go towards to water more samples come into the music, and when you enter into the water, the sound slightly changes even more. This is PURE QUALITY! It's an effect that wasn't possible on the PS but was used to GREAT effect on the N64! The only games I think had really good music on the PS were the Final Fantasy games, Chrono Cross, and Wipeout!
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And take for example Mario 64, first water level, {the one with the sunkenship}. In that level the music starts normally {one of my all time fav. computer game music tracks}, and when you go towards to water more samples come into the music, and when you enter into the water, the sound slightly changes even more. This is PURE QUALITY! It's an effect that wasn't possible on the PS but was used to GREAT effect on the N64! The only games I think had really good music on the PS were the Final Fantasy games, Chrono Cross, and Wipeout!
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