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Ok.
This is the game my PS2 was made for. However, it is massively violent, immoral and just plain wrong.
I am an adult and am clearly not affected by video-game violence, so it's ok for me to like this.
Reasons why GTA3 is good:
Variable weather.
During one mission, it rained, then got foggy, then got sunny again.
The rain effects are incredible and affect the handling of the cars/vans etc
Crashes
I crashed many time and ran away to crash again.
This is a good thing.
Police Cars
They go fast with sirens blazing, the other cars pull over and stop.
So I ran into them and stole more cars
Violence
I beat up several old people and stole their pensions.
Then I beat up some prostitutes and stole their money
Then I beat up more old people, because it was funny and they dont fight back too well
I beat up a police man, stole his shotgun and wandered about shooting old people.
I stole a gang-car and performed a drive-by on several pedestrians, then the police caught me.
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Ok, joking apart.
The level of mayhem and wanton violence in this game is shocking, the fact you can shoot old people and rob them, or shoot anyone and rob them?
Or run them down?
or set them on fire?
If I wasn't a responsible adult, and secure that people will play this and realise it's only a game, it'd be worrying.
Incredible graphics, gameplay like you wouldn't believe and it IS the best thing to grace the PS2 so far.
Without exception.
And because it is "only a game", it's amusing to rob, murder and carjack for entertainment.
And the voice acting?
Joe Pantiolano (The Matrix, Bound, The Goonies)
Robert Loggia (Scarface and many, many others)
Kyle Machlachlan (Twin Peaks, Blue Velvet etc)
And others.
This game rules, and I can't deny it made me glad I got a PS2.
Finally, a year after launch (almost), it is starting to show what it is capable of.
Expect The Daily Mail to start it's usual "Ban this sick filth" campaign in a day or two.
And I hope none of you under-18s are playing this, because that would be illegal.
Or something
This is the game my PS2 was made for. However, it is massively violent, immoral and just plain wrong.
I am an adult and am clearly not affected by video-game violence, so it's ok for me to like this.
Reasons why GTA3 is good:
Variable weather.
During one mission, it rained, then got foggy, then got sunny again.
The rain effects are incredible and affect the handling of the cars/vans etc
Crashes
I crashed many time and ran away to crash again.
This is a good thing.
Police Cars
They go fast with sirens blazing, the other cars pull over and stop.
So I ran into them and stole more cars
Violence
I beat up several old people and stole their pensions.
Then I beat up some prostitutes and stole their money
Then I beat up more old people, because it was funny and they dont fight back too well
I beat up a police man, stole his shotgun and wandered about shooting old people.
I stole a gang-car and performed a drive-by on several pedestrians, then the police caught me.
-----
Ok, joking apart.
The level of mayhem and wanton violence in this game is shocking, the fact you can shoot old people and rob them, or shoot anyone and rob them?
Or run them down?
or set them on fire?
If I wasn't a responsible adult, and secure that people will play this and realise it's only a game, it'd be worrying.
Incredible graphics, gameplay like you wouldn't believe and it IS the best thing to grace the PS2 so far.
Without exception.
And because it is "only a game", it's amusing to rob, murder and carjack for entertainment.
And the voice acting?
Joe Pantiolano (The Matrix, Bound, The Goonies)
Robert Loggia (Scarface and many, many others)
Kyle Machlachlan (Twin Peaks, Blue Velvet etc)
And others.
This game rules, and I can't deny it made me glad I got a PS2.
Finally, a year after launch (almost), it is starting to show what it is capable of.
Expect The Daily Mail to start it's usual "Ban this sick filth" campaign in a day or two.
And I hope none of you under-18s are playing this, because that would be illegal.
Or something
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Quazimodo wrote:
anyway what is the rating for Red faction??
its a 15.
anyway what is the rating for Red faction??
its a 15.
a-man5150 wrote:
> pb wrote:
Also, suggesting that an 18 rating does nothing to protect people
> is
> ignoring the fact that children are more sensitive to the world they
> grow up in
> than adults. They are still learning the moral and social
> codes of conduct, so
> being emersed in violence is not a good example to
> give them. Younger minds are
> more impressionable, maybe not when talking
> about some 16-17 year olds, but
> certainly younger children.
Indeed, pb.
> My point is that although this does restrict children from viewing such
> material, a lot of crime relating to street violence, car theft and personal
> attacks is committed by people above this age. Of course, children should always
> be protected against such things. As many institutions such as video shops and
> cinemas are failing this process, it is becoming more and more a case of the
> parents themselves having to control this.
I disagree, children are not allowed to play on certain games which have violence. But if your parents think you are mature enough to play then they could buy it for you??
Anyway i really want this game knowing that i am underaged and all that my parents have given me permission to play on it, i asked Ali if i would be able to get it with my parents permission i am waiting for an answer so i'll probably find one tonight, anyway what is the rating for Red faction??
> pb wrote:
Also, suggesting that an 18 rating does nothing to protect people
> is
> ignoring the fact that children are more sensitive to the world they
> grow up in
> than adults. They are still learning the moral and social
> codes of conduct, so
> being emersed in violence is not a good example to
> give them. Younger minds are
> more impressionable, maybe not when talking
> about some 16-17 year olds, but
> certainly younger children.
Indeed, pb.
> My point is that although this does restrict children from viewing such
> material, a lot of crime relating to street violence, car theft and personal
> attacks is committed by people above this age. Of course, children should always
> be protected against such things. As many institutions such as video shops and
> cinemas are failing this process, it is becoming more and more a case of the
> parents themselves having to control this.
I disagree, children are not allowed to play on certain games which have violence. But if your parents think you are mature enough to play then they could buy it for you??
Anyway i really want this game knowing that i am underaged and all that my parents have given me permission to play on it, i asked Ali if i would be able to get it with my parents permission i am waiting for an answer so i'll probably find one tonight, anyway what is the rating for Red faction??
How big are the maps??
I'm not decided on how good this game is...All i know is that it is very very addictive. Although no game will ever beat my addiction to Championship manager, this is probably the only console game to even come close. I have spent about 10 hours playing this in the last two days.
"GTA3 on the PC will be released 12 months after the initial PS2 version, because of Sony's lisencing agreement."
~ www.madeupwesite.com
The graphics in GTA3 can't be too good otherwise it'll look 'too realistic' and not be legal...
Game
~ www.madeupwesite.com
The graphics in GTA3 can't be too good otherwise it'll look 'too realistic' and not be legal...
Game
Man I suck at this game.
How the hell do you get off this island?
I've done the Louis missions, he's not there anymore.
Where can I get more from?
Phone boxes?
Other places?
Help!!!!
How the hell do you get off this island?
I've done the Louis missions, he's not there anymore.
Where can I get more from?
Phone boxes?
Other places?
Help!!!!
Man o man. I got it today. This is the game. Guns, cars and chicks. All a guy could want. Here are some rather cool tips i found out:
If you nick a cop car, you automatically get a shotgun with 5 shells. Usefull, and a damn sight easier than killing a cop or mafia guy, and cheaper than the gun shop.
Also, if you only have one wanted star, the police will give up on you in about one minute, if you keep outta sight.
Now, can anyone tell me how you get prostitutes into your car outside of missions?
Thank you.
If you nick a cop car, you automatically get a shotgun with 5 shells. Usefull, and a damn sight easier than killing a cop or mafia guy, and cheaper than the gun shop.
Also, if you only have one wanted star, the police will give up on you in about one minute, if you keep outta sight.
Now, can anyone tell me how you get prostitutes into your car outside of missions?
Thank you.
The graphicalness of GTA3 kind of ruins the whole "it's too cartoony to be realistic" argument though and it was hardest to argue back against. I wonder if GTA3 will be any different for the PC (preferably better since they have more power to work with). If it's just going to be a straight conversion, why is it taking so long? It better be worth it.
pb wrote:
Also, suggesting that an 18 rating does nothing to protect people is
> ignoring the fact that children are more sensitive to the world they grow up in
> than adults. They are still learning the moral and social codes of conduct, so
> being emersed in violence is not a good example to give them. Younger minds are
> more impressionable, maybe not when talking about some 16-17 year olds, but
> certainly younger children.
Indeed, pb. My point is that although this does restrict children from viewing such material, a lot of crime relating to street violence, car theft and personal attacks is committed by people above this age. Of course, children should always be protected against such things. As many institutions such as video shops and cinemas are failing this process, it is becoming more and more a case of the parents themselves having to control this.
Also, suggesting that an 18 rating does nothing to protect people is
> ignoring the fact that children are more sensitive to the world they grow up in
> than adults. They are still learning the moral and social codes of conduct, so
> being emersed in violence is not a good example to give them. Younger minds are
> more impressionable, maybe not when talking about some 16-17 year olds, but
> certainly younger children.
Indeed, pb. My point is that although this does restrict children from viewing such material, a lot of crime relating to street violence, car theft and personal attacks is committed by people above this age. Of course, children should always be protected against such things. As many institutions such as video shops and cinemas are failing this process, it is becoming more and more a case of the parents themselves having to control this.
Turning this arguement around, I realised that the movies and television do show Paedophilia and Child Abuse, but from the victim's point of view, rather than the abuser.
Look at Eastenders recently, or many films dealing with children who have grown up coming to terms with the years of mental and physical anguish that they have suffered. Even comics, such as the early Spawn issues and Batman, have tackled the subject, but in all cases, the abuser was a character of ridicule and to be hated.
If games follow the other media, then maybe we will see an adventure game that includes elements of an abused child in a sensitive way or includes it as a part of one character's background. No games producer in their right mind would set a game about this subject with the focus on the abuser, they all know well enough how that would sell. Even the lowest form of (legal) porn doesn't go that far, and rightly so.
Games based on violence and even sex are acceptable if kept in context, but to have a game based on Paedophilia would mean that the whole game would have to be more realistic and it just wouldn't work, morally or as an entertainment product.
Also, suggesting that an 18 rating does nothing to protect people is ignoring the fact that children are more sensitive to the world they grow up in than adults. They are still learning the moral and social codes of conduct, so being emersed in violence is not a good example to give them. Younger minds are more impressionable, maybe not when talking about some 16-17 year olds, but certainly younger children.
Look at Eastenders recently, or many films dealing with children who have grown up coming to terms with the years of mental and physical anguish that they have suffered. Even comics, such as the early Spawn issues and Batman, have tackled the subject, but in all cases, the abuser was a character of ridicule and to be hated.
If games follow the other media, then maybe we will see an adventure game that includes elements of an abused child in a sensitive way or includes it as a part of one character's background. No games producer in their right mind would set a game about this subject with the focus on the abuser, they all know well enough how that would sell. Even the lowest form of (legal) porn doesn't go that far, and rightly so.
Games based on violence and even sex are acceptable if kept in context, but to have a game based on Paedophilia would mean that the whole game would have to be more realistic and it just wouldn't work, morally or as an entertainment product.
Also, suggesting that an 18 rating does nothing to protect people is ignoring the fact that children are more sensitive to the world they grow up in than adults. They are still learning the moral and social codes of conduct, so being emersed in violence is not a good example to give them. Younger minds are more impressionable, maybe not when talking about some 16-17 year olds, but certainly younger children.
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