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Is there nothing more demeaning and pathetic than being seventeen years old, and being stuck inside a house, doing little but pretending that you're not really there? Hoping and wishing that you can be somewhere, someone else? Can we honestly compare ourselves to people who go outside and garden all day, spend their lives looking after animals and treating the sick?

A man with a job still makes him a man, and beyond that, still puts him in the same position as us. Everything, yes, everything, is escapism. Be it watching a film, doing work, going down the shops... just to look around.

For what can we achieve in our lives that would matter one single bit to anyone when we die? For some generation to come along and look at us, wonder how wonderful we were and where we got our ideas from, perhaps take inspiration in what we've done...

But they die too. In the end, all we may do by letting ourselves live on is to help more people escape. Utterly devoid of sense as we all go to work, come home, discuss more methods of escaping from whatever we are possibly trying to escape from and into, and then go to bed, not a worry in the world, as we spend another day doing nothing and being no more than humans stuck somewhere where we can do little but try to express our emotions, as I do now.

So how on earth can we judge people by what future they have? Yeah, we can have a laugh, and escape for that brief moment... but those without grand jobs and making hundreds of thousands a year can have fun too. We spend far too much of our life worrying about what the rest of it will be like, and we waste so much of it trying to stay within the parametres of those set out to try and regain normality in a world that seems less and less sane the longer you stare at it.

So, what difference is there to playing a game to finding your dream job? What possible distinction is there between falling in love and getting a high score? It's all the same thing in the end, utter nonsense escapism. Simple emotions to try and keep us all happy until the one day that we all snuff it.

I'm not saying I don't want to find a dream job, and fall in love...

And here's the point...

Why on earth are gamers made out to be geeks? What possible harm to anyone including ourselves are we doing by playing games?

What? Instead of our larger leg muscles wasting away after playing football all our lives, our masculine finger muscles will now waste away, obviously making that so awful?

Exactly the same reason why some drugs are banned, and why some films are being censored to "protect" us. It can all be catagorised under the same heading, so why do so many people have a problem with things that aren't normal?

I have no real want or need to dance down a street naked, but why can't I if I want to? Would I harm anyone?

Not at all. But the fact is that we are so closly bound by what we've been bought up to believe that it's so difficult to see past our noses and realise that we're not so different after all.

And on that I end this topic. I don't pose any questions, I don't ask you to reply. It's just something I felt like saying at the time.

Rakuga wrote:

This
> is the age of computer technology. At the end of the day the "geeks"
> will win and the "others" will lose. Maybe in the future some of our
> ancestors will name call the name callers.



Win what? Life isn't about winning, its about enjoying yourself (but not at the expense of others joy). Ok, so "Mr. Geek" ends up with "better" job. So what? Does that make him happy? I've known people that push themselves so hard to succeed and are considered geeks and I feel sorry for them. Not because people call them names but because they're so focused on the future they're not taking any time out to enjoy themselves.
Suicide rates are surprisingly high for these geeks that are supposed to have won.

That's a good point you are raising here but I'd like to focus on the topic you brought up on geeks.

What this word means I am not entirely sure but you have your computer geeks, geek geeks (the ones who work hard at school) and the other geeks that are completely different to everyone else - the outcasts.

In my school these types are all around us. There are ones that work hard in school (one of them revises every morning in the form time for A-levels which are months away). But if he chooses to do that good for him. He's going to do well in life, and probably make more money then us all. Yet he is a geek and has been bullied by people in school occasionally over the years.

Then there are the "different" people. One of the boys in our year is a bus enthusiast (need I saw more). Yet if he likes buses and likes taking photos of them and showing them to his mates good for him (whatever floats your boat). And of course he has taken a bit of the bullying in our school over the years.

Then you have the "computer geeks". The ones who play on their computers at lunchtimes, and at home and do so rather than engaging in physical activities they are "supposed to".
And again they get some share of the bullying.

Then there is some of us stuck in the middle like me. I'm a bit intellectual and work hard, I like computers and I like socialising. So where do I fit in? I wouldn't really consider myself a geek - more of a semi-geek. But the context of the class "geek" I cannot understand.

Those people who would define themselves as "complete ungeeky" engage in text messaging quite alot? And many probably spend lots of times on phones whether they be mobile or non-mobile. So why does me spending lots of time on the internet class as geeky? Chatting on forums and on instant messages is merely combining talking on a phone with text messaging surely and I certainly spend more time than many people on their phones socialising with people online more than others. This is what I don't understand.

And basically everyone plays computer games on Playstations and N64s so why is it the PC people who get classed as the geek? Is it because people are intimidated by "mega bytes of ram" and "processors" and "gigabytes" and the fact they have to have "3d cards" to play the latest PC games?

And so what if some people work harder than others and get better grades.

The class geek would seize to exist if it wasn't for people hating themselves. If they can't understand it then the people who do have to be classed with this term.

This is the age of computer technology. At the end of the day the "geeks" will win and the "others" will lose. Maybe in the future some of our ancestors will name call the name callers.

I also think this is about expressing emotions...as in, not being able to cry in public as people will think you're strange.

I've expressed my emotions on here a little bit with my topic on here a while ago called, "Now It's My Turn," and also a few of my topics on Life...

Strafex wrote:
> It's a little bit more complex than that but you're on the right lines.

Gah...it's my age, I guess. :D

It's a little bit more complex than that but you're on the right lines.

I've struggled to interpret this post, but I think I get the main gist of it.

I think that you're saying something about being classed as 'normal,' or how you would class normal. Normal was created by humans, right? Perhaps millions of years ago people wouldn't of been surprised or 'sickened' by the sight of a man dancing naked around the road.

People think you're 'abnormal' if you don't go out very much, or you prefer to be alone. That's not really 'abnormal', it's just something humans created.

Am I right? Probably not...

Good point Meka.

The kids brought up on games grew into gamers.

Gaming became a widely accepted escape route.

You still get called a geek if you do it too much though.

I think gamers are less 'geeky' now than they were 5 years ago.

And no, I don't think that this is down to the Playstation.

Basically 10 years ago, or so, games were seen as for kids, and they weren't really about when these kids parents were young.

So anyone slightly older that played games was seem as childish, or geeky.

Now there are many parents out there that played games as kids, so there's a whole generation of old gamers, or ex-gamers out there, so it's more widespread, and less geeky.

Geeks are pioneers.

Probably.

Mee mee ha meehaa hee ahaaa mee ha. *sniff*

I'll tell you what.

We seem to have gone down a line of conversation that no one else understands (there might be one or two others but I think that most are clueless), and have dwelved deep into escape routes that no one else has visited before.

We're now babbling on in a way that no one else understands.

We've officially become the forum "Geeks"!

:-D

(not quite true as we are still able to communicate with others down a different line of conversation)