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Mon 22/10/01 at 13:11
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You cant step into a park, walk down a street or get on some public transport without seeing some teenager dressed in black. these people are gothics or goths as they are usualy called.

why are they that way is what i want to know. its usualy connected to music. when i listen to music, like papa roach or linkin park, it doesnt make me want to dress up all in black, but it does make goths do it.in most of these bands the members dont go around looking like the way goths do, they wear baggy t-shirts etc.

me and my mate went into reading the other day. there is this park that lies between the town and the big out of town shops like comet and toys r us.i call the par 'goth park' as it is full of gothics. anyway me and my mate walked into thge park and he said 'i dont see any goths here' i told him to look at a tree, he looked over at a big tree that i was pointing to, underneath it was a group of 30 - 40 goths, just sat there.everywhere you looked the was groups of goths, some small, some big. It was a bit like steping into Jurassic park, the whole place was over run by goths.

I didnt really used to care about goths but now I do.I had been best friends with someone since year 7, then in year 10 he started to get reallyt into rock and heavy metal music.slowly we began to grow apart, then he stopped hanging with me and everyone else he used to be friends with, and befriended this group of outcasts.then we all went away for two weeks of work experience, i was on my luch break, down town and i saw the guy i just mentioned whos name is ollie.he was walking around with his mum and baby sister, wearing a big, black, hooded, maralyn manson top and he had died his hair black, and geled it up into spike things.soon rumours started to pour in when we were back at school, ollie wears black nail varnish and things like that. these rumours were confirmed last friday, when we had a non uniform day. he came to school completly goth'ed up, he had black trowsers that were covered in safety pins, loads of black, spikey braclets, another black top,a bag covered with black writing saying things like
'you have the right to bleed'which was also covered in safety pins and he had black nail varnish.he was showing off his nokia phone a bit as well, which he had spray painted black and covered with spikes. the dumbest thing of all is if you say to him that hes a goth, he will danie it and say that he isnt.

This guy ( that i just spoke about) once was my best friend, who loved nintendo.i remember him telling me onbce that he had seen a friend from his old school in town one day.his friend had gone goth since he had last seen him.ollie said to me that the boy was wearing all black, chains,spikes and even black lipstick. ollie went on to say how he took the mick out of the boy and told him how stupid he looked. i think that thios friend had something to do with his change.he had brown hair and dressed like normal people, now that he has changed i dont speak to him, i just stay away.were now in year 11, i have not made any contact with him for almost a year.

When you ask a goth why they dress in black, they usualy say something like this:

Its represents the act of death, and the meaningless of life

Its cool

I do it to be different

Why do they say it makes them different? the first few people who did it were different, but now that there are loads of them, they arnt different or unique.

If you see anyone doing these things or whearing these things, there could only be a matter of time until they go goth on you:

Wearing all black
Carrying chains
wearing spiky neclesses or braclets
dying their hair black
writing 'evil' things on their bags
painting their nails black
wearing black lipstick
sitiing still, not moving, talking or laughing in a park
or any over goth like behaviour

I just dont know why they become that way.is it a cry for help, an act of rebellion or do they just want to look dumb and have everyone take the mick ad throw things at them? we may never know.

theres a small group of goths at my school, about 4 and their kind of leader is my old best friend.is there any near you?

I hope none of you on this forum are,but if anyone is, why are you and whats good about it?

thanks for reading
CDouch
Tue 23/10/01 at 00:07
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Yeah, alternate lifestyles!
Let's chase them through the village with flaming torches.

(feels a Pink Floyd moment coming on)

"There's one in the spotlight, he dont look right to me
Get him up against the wall"

Let's all just be concerned with our own lives, and making sure we have nothing anyone can criticise before we start pointing and laughing at others eh?

I mean, YOU have nothing that would be considered different do you?
Not fat, or short, or wear glasses, or maybe a stammer.
Nah, not you, you're perfect.
Mon 22/10/01 at 21:08
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Well of course, 90% of Goths are middle-class whiteys, with good education and a shirt load of money behind them, of course all they do is moan about how miserable there lives are and how much of a struggle it is getting through to the next day.

w**kers!
Mon 22/10/01 at 20:44
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"Vote For Pedro"
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actualy at my school all the goths are in the top groups.but thats because they were really smart and stuck up,then people took the mick,so they went goth.but then people took the mick even more.

its a lose, lose situation
Mon 22/10/01 at 20:40
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I used to know a goth. He took himself too seriously, very pretentious, but i think that was just his personality as opposed to a goth thing.

He explained it as like animals with wierd/bright/whatever markings to warn off predators. Then he'd go on for about half an hour about how goths were such nice people, if you got to know them. He really wouldn't shut up about it. That was mainly why i hated him : )

I guess i'd have to go along with 'if that's what someone wants to do, fair enough, who am i to judge blah blah blah', but i can't help but love the irony of the mass subscription to the uniform of 'individuality'.
I thing gregg alexander (new radicals) put it best,
'so original in her black lipstick listening to some obscure band, but isn't she pi..-censored- at all the other non-conformists who listen to that same obscure band'
(Just don't get me started on the making lines rhyme by using the same word at the end of each one thing!)

Yay satan... do i fit in with the misfits?
Mon 22/10/01 at 20:38
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"Vote For Pedro"
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one day we should dress as goths and see how were treated, then we would know just how it feels to be like that.

or maybe not
Mon 22/10/01 at 20:20
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No, they dress like that because they're weirdos and freaks. They have limited intelect. They single themselves out so we know who they are. Then we can take whatever action we deem appropriate. Be it taunting, beating or avoiding.
If you dress differently, surely its only fair that you get pointed at, laughed at and occasionally beaten.

Jeez can you imagine a world were people allowed other people to get away with being different? It'd be a crazy world I can tell you.
Mon 22/10/01 at 17:03
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CDouch wrote:
i just dony understand
> them.


I don't understand women mate, I wouldn't worry about it. Just do your best and you should get on ok.

>were all here talking abou them like their lab rats or something


No. You are.

I would guess (and it's nothing more than a guess) that one of the reasons Goths dress like they do is to get noticed. And it's certainly worked for you, didn't it, eh?
Mon 22/10/01 at 17:00
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this aint just about him,its about all of them.

i just dony understand them.

were all here talking abou them like their lab rats or something
Mon 22/10/01 at 16:24
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"Look!!! Changed!!!1"
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CDouch wrote:
>[deletia]

In short - who cares, let him do what he wants. If he's happy whearing black stuff and nail varnish then fine. It might be a phase, it may not be for the best reasons, but if it is what he wants to do then so be it.

I understand what your saying about a group of individuals and all - but do you then not think it is a tad ironic that his style is singled out in your head and caused you to write a whole post? How many other people have you seen today that had your running home, keyboard fingers primed?
Mon 22/10/01 at 16:22
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I don't have a problem with Goths, I just think its funny that they a lot of them I've met seem to be striving to be an individual in exactly the same way as each other.
How can I not take the p***?

I'd be cheating myself. :-)

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