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Mon 22/10/01 at 13:11
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You cant step into a park, walk down a street or get on some public transport without seeing some teenager dressed in black. these people are gothics or goths as they are usualy called.

why are they that way is what i want to know. its usualy connected to music. when i listen to music, like papa roach or linkin park, it doesnt make me want to dress up all in black, but it does make goths do it.in most of these bands the members dont go around looking like the way goths do, they wear baggy t-shirts etc.

me and my mate went into reading the other day. there is this park that lies between the town and the big out of town shops like comet and toys r us.i call the par 'goth park' as it is full of gothics. anyway me and my mate walked into thge park and he said 'i dont see any goths here' i told him to look at a tree, he looked over at a big tree that i was pointing to, underneath it was a group of 30 - 40 goths, just sat there.everywhere you looked the was groups of goths, some small, some big. It was a bit like steping into Jurassic park, the whole place was over run by goths.

I didnt really used to care about goths but now I do.I had been best friends with someone since year 7, then in year 10 he started to get reallyt into rock and heavy metal music.slowly we began to grow apart, then he stopped hanging with me and everyone else he used to be friends with, and befriended this group of outcasts.then we all went away for two weeks of work experience, i was on my luch break, down town and i saw the guy i just mentioned whos name is ollie.he was walking around with his mum and baby sister, wearing a big, black, hooded, maralyn manson top and he had died his hair black, and geled it up into spike things.soon rumours started to pour in when we were back at school, ollie wears black nail varnish and things like that. these rumours were confirmed last friday, when we had a non uniform day. he came to school completly goth'ed up, he had black trowsers that were covered in safety pins, loads of black, spikey braclets, another black top,a bag covered with black writing saying things like
'you have the right to bleed'which was also covered in safety pins and he had black nail varnish.he was showing off his nokia phone a bit as well, which he had spray painted black and covered with spikes. the dumbest thing of all is if you say to him that hes a goth, he will danie it and say that he isnt.

This guy ( that i just spoke about) once was my best friend, who loved nintendo.i remember him telling me onbce that he had seen a friend from his old school in town one day.his friend had gone goth since he had last seen him.ollie said to me that the boy was wearing all black, chains,spikes and even black lipstick. ollie went on to say how he took the mick out of the boy and told him how stupid he looked. i think that thios friend had something to do with his change.he had brown hair and dressed like normal people, now that he has changed i dont speak to him, i just stay away.were now in year 11, i have not made any contact with him for almost a year.

When you ask a goth why they dress in black, they usualy say something like this:

Its represents the act of death, and the meaningless of life

Its cool

I do it to be different

Why do they say it makes them different? the first few people who did it were different, but now that there are loads of them, they arnt different or unique.

If you see anyone doing these things or whearing these things, there could only be a matter of time until they go goth on you:

Wearing all black
Carrying chains
wearing spiky neclesses or braclets
dying their hair black
writing 'evil' things on their bags
painting their nails black
wearing black lipstick
sitiing still, not moving, talking or laughing in a park
or any over goth like behaviour

I just dont know why they become that way.is it a cry for help, an act of rebellion or do they just want to look dumb and have everyone take the mick ad throw things at them? we may never know.

theres a small group of goths at my school, about 4 and their kind of leader is my old best friend.is there any near you?

I hope none of you on this forum are,but if anyone is, why are you and whats good about it?

thanks for reading
CDouch
Tue 23/10/01 at 18:50
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Dr. Duck wrote:
I guess i'd have to go along with 'if that's what someone
> wants
> to do, fair enough, who am i to judge blah blah blah'

Same here, i dont understand why they want to, but its they're choice to make. unless they are pressured into it by peire pressure from friends,then its not really they're choice.
Tue 23/10/01 at 18:43
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Dr. Duck wrote:
I guess i'd have to go along with 'if that's what someone wants
> to do, fair enough, who am i to judge blah blah blah'

Just trying to make my position on the thing clear, i don't want to get misunderstood by you guys.
Maybe i'm paranoid, just wanted to point that bit out
Tue 23/10/01 at 17:48
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Animal Chin wrote:
> CDouch wrote:
> i saw one guy today walking around with a black top
> saying:

i hate my life
> and want to die

whats the point in being like
> that?

I know a dude with a hoodie that says that, but who cares if he wants
> to die or if he hates himself, most of the time I hate myself, and at times I
> don't care whether I'm alive or not.

Why should you have a right to say what
> people should or should not wear, you're probably some kid who dresses up in
> reebok classic trainers, addidas trousers with your socks pulled up over the
> bottom of them and a tight white t-shirt. Then on your head you've got a
> baseball cap turned up, with a massive gold ear-ring in your ear.

You
> probably go out with your mates loking for goths with crappy Garage or dance
> music in your CD player and then when you find them call them names until they
> respond so you have a reason to kick their heads in.

Get on with your own
> life and don't mess about or try to run others.



im just expressing my opinion, get on with your own life and dont mess about or try to run others.
Tue 23/10/01 at 16:51
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Goatboy wrote:
>
My post wasn't aimed at you Tarrant, you're
> a Hicks fan, which places you above criticism of any kind.


Oh right, sorry.
Not that my post was exactly directed back at you. I just wanted to say that I was speaking from personal experience, then all of a sudden I was back on my high horse.

:-)
Tue 23/10/01 at 16:24
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CDouch wrote:
> i saw one guy today walking around with a black top saying:

i hate my life
> and want to die

whats the point in being like that?

I know a dude with a hoodie that says that, but who cares if he wants to die or if he hates himself, most of the time I hate myself, and at times I don't care whether I'm alive or not.

Why should you have a right to say what people should or should not wear, you're probably some kid who dresses up in reebok classic trainers, addidas trousers with your socks pulled up over the bottom of them and a tight white t-shirt. Then on your head you've got a baseball cap turned up, with a massive gold ear-ring in your ear.

You probably go out with your mates loking for goths with crappy Garage or dance music in your CD player and then when you find them call them names until they respond so you have a reason to kick their heads in.

Get on with your own life and don't mess about or try to run others.
Tue 23/10/01 at 15:52
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I am the Tarrant wrote:
> Hey I'm only referring to people I know (and making sweeping generalisations,

My post wasn't aimed at you Tarrant, you're a Hicks fan, which places you above criticism of any kind.

I was referring to the other people.

(Yes, that means YOU, you know who you are)
Tue 23/10/01 at 15:51
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Posts: 5,679
i saw one guy today walking around with a black top saying:

i hate my life and want to die

whats the point in being like that?
Tue 23/10/01 at 15:49
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Posts: 5,679
i understand that everyone has the right to be how they want to be.but i just dont understand why people would want to goaround being so angry and derpressed all time for,usualy for know reasen.
Tue 23/10/01 at 15:24
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Hey I'm only referring to people I know (and making sweeping generalisations, oops)

It irritates me when people who have very easy lives sit back and tell you that there life is the hardest to live in the world. What's that about?

I admit, security, money in the bank and food in your belly is does not garuntee happiness. But these people are so very ignorant to the state of the world they think that their suffering is worse than everyone elses.

I know yes, pain is relative to the individual and all that.

But I personally can see a difference between the ills of a "Goth" I know - "Oh, my dad won't lend me the money to buy a car"
and then people in third world countries having no choice but to sit and watch their children starve to death.

I'm not saying we have no right to complain about things that off, but come on, we're not the only ones suffering, have some sense!
Tue 23/10/01 at 02:30
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Does it matter how other people choose to live if it is not directly affecting your life or others around you? These people choose to be the way they are and I don't think they HAVE to be dumb and smoke pot all day, it's prejudice and you automatically get the impression that if someone who is wearing all this make-up then it makes them a worse person then myself.

I don't wear what they do, I don't do drugs and I don't listen to that sort of music but I don't disrespect any of them for their choices in life as everyone has a choice and they choose to be the way they are.

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