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I'm sure a fair few of you watch this program and probably enjoying it like me. Anyway, we can discuss the episode tonight was particualry ruthless and nasty.

The challenge was to create and promote a product for Dogs. The boys team (eclipse) came up with a utility belt (looking more like a sash or a miltary gear) and the girls (stealth) developed a doggie cupboard where you could store all your doggie goods, food, belts, clothes etc. 2 pretty dubious products, eclipses belt product was panned by the focus group (which prefered the other idea of a blanket that caught hairs and was machine washable). Another with questionable target market making it difficult or challenging to sell. Neverless, the girls won by a massive margin. For the boys, it was a double blow with 2 members of their team leaving.


My 2 cents: The project manager really was useless, he's creditenals really did hint at it already. Bankrupt twice and choose a pretty autocratic style that didn't rub very well nor was he any good at management either. A key problem was partially the project leaders personal pride and intergrity that made him such a lousy leader. Too proud to take advice, critism and thought he good enough to make effective decisons. He had no business acumin at all (hence the record)

Stating that you're the boss (as noted right at the start of the challenge) and you have all the power is foolish in business. Its the workers who get the job done and not the managers. Managers are the brains and ensures that they get the work done (In fairness, 2 sharks in the group would cause problems in the long run.). There were so many situations and key moments that could have been resolved but the project manager refused to listen to the most disruptive member of the group (tray?) who was giving some pretty valid pointers like the delay of the other members within the focus group. Nor was he very decisive in decison making and by the look of things made a half arsed commitment to things.

But that said, tray was very disruptive and a valid point that he likes to be in control and frequently antagonsitic. He seems to have the drive, motivation and force to win, but his blunt attitude and refusal to accept authority really makes him a liablity. To be fair to the project manager, whilst his product didn't win, there was still no guarentee that the other product would have beaten the girls mammouth victory despite the good feedback from the focus group. This wasn't helped by the fact that another team member acutally had a degree in product design and didn't contribute at all.


So whats your thoughts on tonights show. Any comments on the first show or next weeks one?

personal grudges no doubt. Maybe he seemed to be percieved as an idiot from his background and possably because of how he acted in the last few challenges. Oh and maybe he was being diruptive.

spoonbeast wrote:
> The cars sales men? Somehow he managed to adapt quite well in
> that environment his no nonense style from his profession seemed
> to pay off.
>

Yeah thats the one...people seem to like blaming him for stuff but he was one of the few that managed to sell a painting!

Der Nazi wrote:
> Is there a repeat of last week's show on anytime this week?
> Rather embarrassingly I missed much of it at the first
> opportunity...

It was repeated on Saturday. :P

Perhaps it's up on the BBC's website?

The Wardy wrote:
> Anyone else think that Adam bloke is good? I think his name is
> adam? The one who everyone seems to argue with haha

The cars sales men? Somehow he managed to adapt quite well in that environment his no nonense style from his profession seemed to pay off.

Wednesday: dealing with the french, my god thats going to be a corker. The french hate anything british these days. Beef, espeically. Which is probably why we don't buy their wine*



*Actually we don't buy their wine because SA and aussie wines are better.

Is there a repeat of last week's show on anytime this week? Rather embarrassingly I missed much of it at the first opportunity...

Anyone else think that Adam bloke is good? I think his name is adam? The one who everyone seems to argue with haha

Art. A quite a difficult thing to sell these days. To ordinary people certain art is just crap that frankly is rubbish. To certain art admirers they see things differently.

So to sell artwork as a challenge really is tough but that was what happened today. The group with the horses really did have the upper hand all the way to be honest. Decent art that could appeal to virtually everyone and given a list of contacts! it wasn't surprising that they wiped the floor with the opposing team. Which didn't have the right selling strategy and their artist was hardly helping at all.

So the mother with a masters degree was fired. Justified i suppose by some lacking abilities and inexperience. Theres a whole world of difference between theory and proper skills. Next week: selling british goods to the french.

Bob_The_Moose wrote:
> I can't understand how you people can watch this.
> Don't you find the people on it just absolutely repulsive?
>
> I'm not meaning to start a big argument or anything, just
> curious.

yeah my uncle resents it. Says only alan sugar wins at the end of the day. Me? I'm into business and this was something worth watching on tv and killed time. The challenges seemed interesting enough. Plus watching some of the stupid decisions and watching the consequences makes me grin.

But i resent big brother unless it got more shocking. Oh i dunno, people come close to death via strvation cannabalism, murder etc etc. But its not going to happen. The shows stagnated.

Why would you have to like the people in a 'reality programme' to watch it?

"Freak show"

I can't understand how you people can watch this.
Don't you find the people on it just absolutely repulsive?

I'm not meaning to start a big argument or anything, just curious.