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Wed 04/04/07 at 22:28
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I'm sure a fair few of you watch this program and probably enjoying it like me. Anyway, we can discuss the episode tonight was particualry ruthless and nasty.

The challenge was to create and promote a product for Dogs. The boys team (eclipse) came up with a utility belt (looking more like a sash or a miltary gear) and the girls (stealth) developed a doggie cupboard where you could store all your doggie goods, food, belts, clothes etc. 2 pretty dubious products, eclipses belt product was panned by the focus group (which prefered the other idea of a blanket that caught hairs and was machine washable). Another with questionable target market making it difficult or challenging to sell. Neverless, the girls won by a massive margin. For the boys, it was a double blow with 2 members of their team leaving.


My 2 cents: The project manager really was useless, he's creditenals really did hint at it already. Bankrupt twice and choose a pretty autocratic style that didn't rub very well nor was he any good at management either. A key problem was partially the project leaders personal pride and intergrity that made him such a lousy leader. Too proud to take advice, critism and thought he good enough to make effective decisons. He had no business acumin at all (hence the record)

Stating that you're the boss (as noted right at the start of the challenge) and you have all the power is foolish in business. Its the workers who get the job done and not the managers. Managers are the brains and ensures that they get the work done (In fairness, 2 sharks in the group would cause problems in the long run.). There were so many situations and key moments that could have been resolved but the project manager refused to listen to the most disruptive member of the group (tray?) who was giving some pretty valid pointers like the delay of the other members within the focus group. Nor was he very decisive in decison making and by the look of things made a half arsed commitment to things.

But that said, tray was very disruptive and a valid point that he likes to be in control and frequently antagonsitic. He seems to have the drive, motivation and force to win, but his blunt attitude and refusal to accept authority really makes him a liablity. To be fair to the project manager, whilst his product didn't win, there was still no guarentee that the other product would have beaten the girls mammouth victory despite the good feedback from the focus group. This wasn't helped by the fact that another team member acutally had a degree in product design and didn't contribute at all.


So whats your thoughts on tonights show. Any comments on the first show or next weeks one?
Fri 06/04/07 at 23:10
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It was a sort of cruel. The one missing his family didn't (if i remember correctly) say he wanted to leave. He made a passing comment to defend himself and seemed upset to leave and made some defiant/brave face about family.


"I quit"
"No you're fired".

No mercy indeed.
Fri 06/04/07 at 18:03
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To clear things up... two people were fired, which the show was able to do as this year they had an extra candidate.

The guy who was missing his family was sent home.

Then Tre and posh-man were kept on, Sugar saying something about being unable to second guess him.. where he fired posh-man and warned Tre
Fri 06/04/07 at 17:02
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I'm confused; I thought the posh guy would have been fired, and indeed deserved it, but the guy who missed his family got fired instead, as he felt he had let the team down and wanted to go back home.
Fri 06/04/07 at 16:02
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Im talking about the guy who was put in charge. He got fired. Unless there were two project managers ho were posh and stuck up and I've just missed the plot.
Fri 06/04/07 at 10:46
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Geffdof wrote:
> He got fired yesterday.

By the project manager, I mean the guy put in charge, whoever he was. The posh guy, I'm getting confused with the bloke who had a similar career but ended up getting fired because he was having concentrating...
Thu 05/04/07 at 14:55
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the project manager that got voted off on the first episode, Hilarious, talked the talk but couldn't walk the walk. Made even more hilarious by the pathetic attempt/plea to stay on. Then not understanding why he was fired and didn't think he deserved to be fired. brilliant.
Thu 05/04/07 at 13:04
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He got fired yesterday.
Thu 05/04/07 at 12:20
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I thought the belt was a good, practical idea, but of course it did look rather stupid. In actual fact, I was rather surprised at the winner, but then I don't own a dog, nor do I "pamper" one!

That project manager was a real pain in the backside, I hope he gets voted off soon; he obviously knows nothing about working as part of a team and seems rather too stuck up. Could be amusing to see him and the Asian chap shouting blue murder at each other again next week! :)
Wed 04/04/07 at 22:28
Regular
"eat toast!"
Posts: 1,466
I'm sure a fair few of you watch this program and probably enjoying it like me. Anyway, we can discuss the episode tonight was particualry ruthless and nasty.

The challenge was to create and promote a product for Dogs. The boys team (eclipse) came up with a utility belt (looking more like a sash or a miltary gear) and the girls (stealth) developed a doggie cupboard where you could store all your doggie goods, food, belts, clothes etc. 2 pretty dubious products, eclipses belt product was panned by the focus group (which prefered the other idea of a blanket that caught hairs and was machine washable). Another with questionable target market making it difficult or challenging to sell. Neverless, the girls won by a massive margin. For the boys, it was a double blow with 2 members of their team leaving.


My 2 cents: The project manager really was useless, he's creditenals really did hint at it already. Bankrupt twice and choose a pretty autocratic style that didn't rub very well nor was he any good at management either. A key problem was partially the project leaders personal pride and intergrity that made him such a lousy leader. Too proud to take advice, critism and thought he good enough to make effective decisons. He had no business acumin at all (hence the record)

Stating that you're the boss (as noted right at the start of the challenge) and you have all the power is foolish in business. Its the workers who get the job done and not the managers. Managers are the brains and ensures that they get the work done (In fairness, 2 sharks in the group would cause problems in the long run.). There were so many situations and key moments that could have been resolved but the project manager refused to listen to the most disruptive member of the group (tray?) who was giving some pretty valid pointers like the delay of the other members within the focus group. Nor was he very decisive in decison making and by the look of things made a half arsed commitment to things.

But that said, tray was very disruptive and a valid point that he likes to be in control and frequently antagonsitic. He seems to have the drive, motivation and force to win, but his blunt attitude and refusal to accept authority really makes him a liablity. To be fair to the project manager, whilst his product didn't win, there was still no guarentee that the other product would have beaten the girls mammouth victory despite the good feedback from the focus group. This wasn't helped by the fact that another team member acutally had a degree in product design and didn't contribute at all.


So whats your thoughts on tonights show. Any comments on the first show or next weeks one?

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